The thing is, if the previous Super Saiyan God was revived, he wouldn't be a Super Saiyan God because he failed to absorb its power & make it his own. And without SSGod, he can't even turn into a Super Saiyan, and he was weaker than the evil Saiyans, who are most likely below 90.000 in base (Vegeta assumed that Goku was a Super Saiyan because he had surpassed the Saiyan limits by reaching a BP of 90.000, and Ginyu believed that he was a mutant or a Super Saiyan, so such power must have been very rare). So, the previous Super Saiyan God wouldn't be anything special.anth21ony wrote:Seeing as how everyone is giving their predictions, I might as well give mine. IF, and thats a BIG if Vegeta happens to be the main protagonist, wouldn't it be interesting to see the originally SSJG be wished back? I only say this because if I remember correctly, the original SSJG fought off all of the evil Saiyans. Assuming that Vegeta's royal family goes back for decades, this SSJG might potentially consider Vegeta as evil, and the story would be centered around defeating him (or saving him for that matter). Just a thought.
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
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Frieza was sacred of the SSJ God as well so who knows where he ended up.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The thing is, if the previous Super Saiyan God was revived, he wouldn't be a Super Saiyan God because he failed to absorb its power & make it his own. And without SSGod, he can't even turn into a Super Saiyan, and he was weaker than the evil Saiyans, who are most likely below 90.000 in base (Vegeta assumed that Goku was a Super Saiyan because he had surpassed the Saiyan limits by reaching a BP of 90.000, and Ginyu believed that he was a mutant or a Super Saiyan, so such power must have been very rare). So, the previous Super Saiyan God wouldn't be anything special.anth21ony wrote:Seeing as how everyone is giving their predictions, I might as well give mine. IF, and thats a BIG if Vegeta happens to be the main protagonist, wouldn't it be interesting to see the originally SSJG be wished back? I only say this because if I remember correctly, the original SSJG fought off all of the evil Saiyans. Assuming that Vegeta's royal family goes back for decades, this SSJG might potentially consider Vegeta as evil, and the story would be centered around defeating him (or saving him for that matter). Just a thought.
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He was scared that someone would become a Super Saiyan God, not the previous Super Saiyan God. The previous SSGod was strong as a Super Saiyan God, but still far weaker than God Goku, and he didn't even keep the power. So, if he was revived, he would be a good weak Saiyan that can only turn into an Oozaru.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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While I really like the idea of the original SSJG coming back to live, it wouldn't make any sense for him to want to kill Vegeta, considering Vegeta helped Goku become a SSJG so he's basically a "pure-hearted" saiyan now. Unless the original SSJG's mind has twisted due to rage/grief and all he can feel is anger.
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I do like the theory about the original Super Saiyan God being revived, this is where I went to as well. But I think it's going to be a new character we've not met before, or perhaps something that's only been hinted at very loosely in the past.
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It's the same, although I don't recall Torishima's name being given the furigana "Mashirito" in the Jump version. Still taking potshots at his ex-editor after all these years.Luso Saiyan wrote:Sorry if this has been brought up, but is the message below from Toriyama the one that has already been translated, or a completely new one?
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Yeah I agree. It would be cool if it were to be the case, though. The I think a bigger mystery is who is making this wish.CordonBloo wrote:I do like the theory about the original Super Saiyan God being revived, this is where I went to as well. But I think it's going to be a new character we've not met before, or perhaps something that's only been hinted at very loosely in the past.
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I would like to see Goku and Vegeta training together, maybe assisted by Whis and Beerus as their masters.
The new villain could be a threat to the 12 Universes, open dimensions, you know.
The new villain could be a threat to the 12 Universes, open dimensions, you know.
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Buu already been reincarnated as Uub. Uub is at least two or three years old during the events of 2008 Jump Special and Battle of Gods.shinmaru wrote:Maybe Goku is reviving Buu.
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Maybe Beerus makes the wish, and revives King Vegeta, so he can step on him again, and cause him more despair.
Kidding.
It would be interesting to see who it is that is 'revived' though. So much speculation involved, I can't even begin to fathom!
It would be interesting to see who it is that is 'revived' though. So much speculation involved, I can't even begin to fathom!
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I think they could pull off a Star Trek '09 and Mortal Kombat 9 (Mortal Kombat 2011) on us with the new wish. A new villain comes up and he uses the wish to create a new world in his vision which causes a birth to a new timeline. So the old timeline is gone and we have a new one now.
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Maybe. But how would that affect Future Trunks' timelines? I mean, every time he traveled, a new timeline was created. That could really mess something like that up.Hellspawn28 wrote:I think they could pull off a Star Trek '09 and Mortal Kombat 9 (Mortal Kombat 2011) on us with the new wish. A new villain comes up and he uses the wish to create a new world in his vision which causes a birth to a new timeline. So the old timeline is gone and we have a new one now.
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DBZ is too old to get a reboot. Star Trek and Mortal Kombat are continuing so they needed something new to keep going, DBZ is going to stop again at some point. Besides asking for a new timeline is inviting Broly and others into canon.Hellspawn28 wrote:I think they could pull off a Star Trek '09 and Mortal Kombat 9 (Mortal Kombat 2011) on us with the new wish. A new villain comes up and he uses the wish to create a new world in his vision which causes a birth to a new timeline. So the old timeline is gone and we have a new one now.
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I hope its not Bardock, Broly or Freeza. Those characters have been cameo'd to death already despite ironically being long dead. I get that Bardock is Naho Ooshi's favourite character, but I'm a little annoyed at how often hes being inserted into relevance without having any these days in general.VyeRo wrote:Dear god I hope it's not Broly...or Bardock.
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Star Trek is way over then Dragon Ball. ST pretty much died out in the early 2000's since Nemesis bombed and Enterprise didn't last very long. I think a villain who makes a wish to recreate history would be cool. It won't surprise me if that's the wish. Maybe Time Patrol Trunks can show up to get things fix back to normal.miguelnuva1 wrote:DBZ is too old to get a reboot. Star Trek and Mortal Kombat are continuing so they needed something new to keep going, DBZ is going to stop again at some point. Besides asking for a new timeline is inviting Broly and others into canon.Hellspawn28 wrote:I think they could pull off a Star Trek '09 and Mortal Kombat 9 (Mortal Kombat 2011) on us with the new wish. A new villain comes up and he uses the wish to create a new world in his vision which causes a birth to a new timeline. So the old timeline is gone and we have a new one now.
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The thought of time patrol trunks getting involved in this movie hasn't entered my mind but it's an interesting idea, i will say it's a bit of a stretch however.Hellspawn28 wrote:Star Trek is way over then Dragon Ball. ST pretty much died out in the early 2000's since Nemesis bombed and Enterprise didn't last very long. I think a villain who makes a wish to recreate history would be cool. It won't surprise me if that's the wish. Maybe Time Patrol Trunks can show up to get things fix back to normal.miguelnuva1 wrote:DBZ is too old to get a reboot. Star Trek and Mortal Kombat are continuing so they needed something new to keep going, DBZ is going to stop again at some point. Besides asking for a new timeline is inviting Broly and others into canon.Hellspawn28 wrote:I think they could pull off a Star Trek '09 and Mortal Kombat 9 (Mortal Kombat 2011) on us with the new wish. A new villain comes up and he uses the wish to create a new world in his vision which causes a birth to a new timeline. So the old timeline is gone and we have a new one now.
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If Broly ever comes back, give him a different personality, no more KAKAROOOOT stuff.
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Character development for someone like Broly almost seems counter intuitive. (The all action character that was purely insane) But there is just about no chance they will bring him back again so i wouldn't worry too much.perucho1990 wrote:If Broly ever comes back, give him a different personality, no more KAKAROOOOT stuff.
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DC was 50ish when it was rebooted with Crisis on Infinite Earths. Godzilla was 30ish when it was rebooted in 1984, and again in 2000. Star Trek was 50ish when it was rebooted.miguelnuva1 wrote:DBZ is too old to get a reboot. Star Trek and Mortal Kombat are continuing so they needed something new to keep going, DBZ is going to stop again at some point. Besides asking for a new timeline is inviting Broly and others into canon.Hellspawn28 wrote:I think they could pull off a Star Trek '09 and Mortal Kombat 9 (Mortal Kombat 2011) on us with the new wish. A new villain comes up and he uses the wish to create a new world in his vision which causes a birth to a new timeline. So the old timeline is gone and we have a new one now.
Dragon Ball is by no means too old for a reboot.
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I still doubt Broli is ever going to be in this movie. There's a better chance of the sky raining blood tonight then Broli coming back.
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