An emotional half-Saiyan with anger problems going through puberty making illogical decisions?thatdbzguy wrote:What was Gohan's perfectly natural and obvious reason for his OOC behavior?
Exactly.
Tenshinhan's behavior in the Cell Arc
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I'm more bothered by the fact that nobody seemed to have taken his comment to heart.
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I keep hearing this about Krillin being stronger than Tenshinhan, but I just don't believe it. Is there actual evidence that Krillin is stronger than Tenshinhan? Other than because Toriyama said so... Toriyama doesn't remember half of his characters.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Tenshinhan has been training for all these years, and he couldn't surpass base Goku, or even Kuririn.
I'm sure Krillin was stronger during the Namek/Freeza saga when he got the huge power boost from the Guru, but that's about the only time Krillin seemed stronger than Tenshinhan to me.
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Toriyama reread the manga said the same thing. Toriyama in the original manga series said Krilliin was the strongest via Yamcha.
Clearin Daughter: "Dad's the strongest"
Yamcha: Yes he is.
Yamcha: Strongest human that is
It was something along the lines of that in the manga. Ten just more of a warrior
Clearin Daughter: "Dad's the strongest"
Yamcha: Yes he is.
Yamcha: Strongest human that is
It was something along the lines of that in the manga. Ten just more of a warrior
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I figured he knew he wouldn't improve to the point where he could beat Cell, and trained Solo to pass the time, or I put it down to him not feeling conformable if they went in together (can't remember if they went in separately or together) since he trains by himself usually anyway.
I liked Tien in this arc, in fact I like how all the earthlings played a decent part.
I liked Tien in this arc, in fact I like how all the earthlings played a decent part.
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I don't know.. still don't quite buy it.TheGmGoken wrote:Toriyama reread the manga said the same thing. Toriyama in the original manga series said Krilliin was the strongest via Yamcha.
Clearin Daughter: "Dad's the strongest"
Yamcha: Yes he is.
Yamcha: Strongest human that is
It was something along the lines of that in the manga. Ten just more of a warrior
Imperfect Cell was wiping the floor with Krillin, and would've absorbed him had Piccolo and Tenshinhan not come to save him in time. While Tenshinhan was keeping Semi-Perfect Cell down for about a minute. Something I doubt Krillin would be able to pull off.
I mean I guess you could say the kikoho is simply a powerful technique that uses your life/spiritual energy instead of a normal ki blast, which makes it stronger than the usual technique, but still. That's all Tenshinhan would need in a serious fight with Krillin to kill him.
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Ten Ki blast canon was life energy and kiai. Which can legit Kill Ten like it did in Nappa fight. Also Cell was caught off guard. Also Cell vs Krillin wasn't in the manga. The statement I provided was however. Toriyama clearly said Krillin was stronger or implied it.
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Toriyama himself, as well as the manga, various guidebooks, video games, and BOG promotional material all have consistently stated Krillin > Tenshinhan.Daimakku wrote:I keep hearing this about Krillin being stronger than Tenshinhan, but I just don't believe it. Is there actual evidence that Krillin is stronger than Tenshinhan? Other than because Toriyama said so... Toriyama doesn't remember half of his characters.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Tenshinhan has been training for all these years, and he couldn't surpass base Goku, or even Kuririn.
I'm sure Krillin was stronger during the Namek/Freeza saga when he got the huge power boost from the Guru, but that's about the only time Krillin seemed stronger than Tenshinhan to me.
What evidence do you have that all of these sources- especially the author of the manga- are wrong?
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Don't forget that Krillin would have #18 as a training partner. And you know how big a difference a good training partner makes.
[i]"I have yet to show you, young warrior, what I'm truly capable of."[/i] - Cell
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Yeah, Tien training with Chostzu can't really help him much.mAcChaos wrote:Don't forget that Krillin would have #18 as a training partner. And you know how big a difference a good training partner makes.
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Filler and Tenshinhan didn't do any damage to Cell at all.Daimakku wrote:I don't know.. still don't quite buy it.TheGmGoken wrote:Toriyama reread the manga said the same thing. Toriyama in the original manga series said Krilliin was the strongest via Yamcha.
Clearin Daughter: "Dad's the strongest"
Yamcha: Yes he is.
Yamcha: Strongest human that is
It was something along the lines of that in the manga. Ten just more of a warrior
Imperfect Cell was wiping the floor with Krillin, and would've absorbed him had Piccolo and Tenshinhan not come to save him in time. While Tenshinhan was keeping Semi-Perfect Cell down for about a minute. Something I doubt Krillin would be able to pull off.
I mean I guess you could say the kikoho is simply a powerful technique that uses your life/spiritual energy instead of a normal ki blast, which makes it stronger than the usual technique, but still. That's all Tenshinhan would need in a serious fight with Krillin to kill him.
The Kienzan could cut through Cell. It wouldn't mean he was stronger than Goku or any of the other non-human characters. Toriyama and the manga both state Krillin is stronger, and it makes sense he would be stronger. He did better against Nappa, he got a power-up on Namek, he has a better training partner than Tenshinhan, etc. After Namek, I would say the tables flipped.