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Post by Flopro18 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:49 am

So is Time Patrol Trunks a different character all together or his he just Future Trunks with a new outfit? Reason I ask is maybe if TPT can go SS3 in Heroes, it might cross over into XV.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:33 am

Time Patrol Trunks in DBO was just Future Trunks a little after he returned to his own time and killed the robits.

Xenoverse is borrowing elements from DBO. So if we assume it's an alternate timeline that starts after DBZ too, then I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same for this version of Trunks.

Heroes' implementation of the Xenoverse Trunks should mean that it's the same Trunks, whatever his backstory ends up being. But with the nature of how the cards in the game work, by classifying him as "Trunks:Xeno", he's effectively a different character for now, regardless of his history. This is the first Trunks:Xeno card, so even if he is the same Future Trunks that has SS3, he currently doesn't even have access to Super Saiyan. So we'll have to see what they do with him moving forward.

Honestly, despite the fact that we've all seen Trunks as a Super Saiyan countless times before, I'm pretty excited to see him officially transform in the DBO outfit (something he never did in the MMO).
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Post by jollyr » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:27 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Time Patrol Trunks in DBO was just Future Trunks a little after he returned to his own time and killed the robits.

Xenoverse is borrowing elements from DBO. So if we assume it's an alternate timeline that starts after DBZ too, then I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same for this version of Trunks.

Heroes' implementation of the Xenoverse Trunks should mean that it's the same Trunks, whatever his backstory ends up being. But with the nature of how the cards in the game work, by classifying him as "Trunks:Xeno", he's effectively a different character for now, regardless of his history. This is the first Trunks:Xeno card, so even if he is the same Future Trunks that has SS3, he currently doesn't even have access to Super Saiyan. So we'll have to see what they do with him moving forward.

Honestly, despite the fact that we've all seen Trunks as a Super Saiyan countless times before, I'm pretty excited to see him officially transform in the DBO outfit (something he never did in the MMO).
I am too cause I really love his costume and Future Trunks has always been one of my favorite characters. And since DBO's story was created by Toriyama I like knowing he's an "official" character as opposed to the what-ifs. I know it don't really make a difference but for some reason with that character it means something to me.

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Post by budokaifanatic007 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:43 pm

Wait so is this new Kid Goku a new goku or is it the same DB kid Goku?
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:03 pm

budokaifanatic007 wrote:Wait so is this new Kid Goku a new goku or is it the same DB kid Goku?
It's Goku as he appears in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, which is intended to be the same Goku that you see throughout the entirety of the Dragon Ball manga.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:17 pm

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budokaifanatic007 wrote:Wait so is this new Kid Goku a new goku or is it the same DB kid Goku?
It's Goku as he appears in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, which is intended to be the same Goku that you see throughout the entirety of the Dragon Ball manga.
I think that what he means is, is he a separate Goku card like Gohan: Childhood, Gohan: Boyhood, etc are separate characters in the game?
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Post by Darknat » Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:42 pm

It has the same name as kid goku, so that means it's just a costume and not a different character.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:16 pm

VegettoEX wrote:It's Goku as he appears in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, which is intended to be the same Goku that you see throughout the entirety of the Dragon Ball manga.
Yet DBO and presumably Xenoverse's Trunks are supposed to be the same Trunks we followed in the the series, just with a new outfit. He received a title change on his card to Trunks:Xeno though. So regardless of what the story is supposed to be for the character, I'd say it's a valid question in regards to the game (which has a history of making some odd choices).
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Post by Rukura » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:21 pm

I guess they could've called him "Kakarrot" on that card, if they really wanted to make a distinction, since it's Goku before he gets that name. Must be just the costume.
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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:36 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
budokaifanatic007 wrote:Wait so is this new Kid Goku a new goku or is it the same DB kid Goku?
It's Goku as he appears in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, which is intended to be the same Goku that you see throughout the entirety of the Dragon Ball manga.
I don't understand. Was Goku not a newborn when sent to Earth? How would you fight with a newborn baby?

Only way this makes any sense if he got a new costume.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:07 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:
budokaifanatic007 wrote:Wait so is this new Kid Goku a new goku or is it the same DB kid Goku?
It's Goku as he appears in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, which is intended to be the same Goku that you see throughout the entirety of the Dragon Ball manga.
I don't understand. Was Goku not a newborn when sent to Earth? How would you fight with a newborn baby?

Only way this makes any sense if he got a new costume.
That's just it - Jaco brings into question whether Goku was really a newborn, or just a young boy, when he was sent to Earth.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:21 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:
budokaifanatic007 wrote:Wait so is this new Kid Goku a new goku or is it the same DB kid Goku?
It's Goku as he appears in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, which is intended to be the same Goku that you see throughout the entirety of the Dragon Ball manga.
I don't understand. Was Goku not a newborn when sent to Earth? How would you fight with a newborn baby?

Only way this makes any sense if he got a new costume.
He is shown to be 3 years old in Jaco The Galactic Patrolman & Dragon Ball Minus, which is also implied in DBZ: Battle of Gods. Goku arriving on Earth as a newborn is anime-only.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:01 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:He is shown to be 3 years old in Jaco The Galactic Patrolman & Dragon Ball Minus, which is also implied in DBZ: Battle of Gods. Goku arriving on Earth as a newborn is anime-only.
Could've sworn in the manga as Raditz is flying towards Roshi's island mentioning Kakarot, there's an image of Goku drawn as a newborn. I guess his age wasn't really implied at that point. Still, Goku doesn't even look 3 in that image. Can't see him fighting anyone at age 3 either...
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DarkPrince_92 wrote:Could've sworn in the manga as Raditz is flying towards Roshi's island mentioning Kakarot, there's an image of Goku drawn as a newborn. I guess his age wasn't really implied at that point. Still, Goku doesn't even look 3 in that image.
That was just Raditz remembering Goku as he was the last time he saw him. Raditz had left on a mission, which is why he had only seen him as a newborn.
Can't see him fighting anyone at age 3 either...
He fought Son Gohan.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:27 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:He fought Son Gohan.
Would that be a fight? Or him wildly flailing and attacking Gohan? Lol.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:19 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:He is shown to be 3 years old in Jaco The Galactic Patrolman & Dragon Ball Minus, which is also implied in DBZ: Battle of Gods. Goku arriving on Earth as a newborn is anime-only.
Could've sworn in the manga as Raditz is flying towards Roshi's island mentioning Kakarot, there's an image of Goku drawn as a newborn. I guess his age wasn't really implied at that point. Still, Goku doesn't even look 3 in that image. Can't see him fighting anyone at age 3 either...
There is that, but that could easily just be Radtiz's mental image of his brother, from the last time he saw him. I mean, he has no clue what his brother would look like now, other than the vague connection of the hair obviously, and probably assuming his brother has a tail.

As far as the age thing goes, don't forget that Goku has always been kind of odd in that regard. Never has he looked his age, especially not back in original Dragon Ball.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:46 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:
DarkPrince_92 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:He is shown to be 3 years old in Jaco The Galactic Patrolman & Dragon Ball Minus, which is also implied in DBZ: Battle of Gods. Goku arriving on Earth as a newborn is anime-only.
Could've sworn in the manga as Raditz is flying towards Roshi's island mentioning Kakarot, there's an image of Goku drawn as a newborn. I guess his age wasn't really implied at that point. Still, Goku doesn't even look 3 in that image. Can't see him fighting anyone at age 3 either...
There is that, but that could easily just be Radtiz's mental image of his brother, from the last time he saw him. I mean, he has no clue what his brother would look like now, other than the vague connection of the hair obviously, and probably assuming his brother has a tail.

As far as the age thing goes, don't forget that Goku has always been kind of odd in that regard. Never has he looked his age, especially not back in original Dragon Ball.
I think it helps to stop thinking about it in human terms. Goku's growth patterns are that of a Saiyan, which we know are different. In Jaco/DB-, Goku at age 3 is already the same size as he is when Dragon Ball starts, and he basically stays that size until his training under Popo and Kami. Saiyans seem to grow from newborn size to child size relatively quickly to help better defend themselves if need be, and then, confirmed with Jaco, they stay child sized to help deceive the inhabitants of the planets they invade until their body is ready to grown into that of an adult suited for combat.
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Post by nicolas_3d » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:28 pm

Hi guys, I'm kind of a newbie in regards to dragon ball heroes cards, i own a few that i bought online but there is one information i can't find.
I know where to find the gummy boxes and starter packs, like on amazon japan, yahoo auction and all, but where do you find the booster packs? all the rare cards, the CP and the SR, where do you get those? Are there any booster packs?
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Post by budokaifanatic007 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:01 pm

So is Goku supposed to have a new attack? He hasn't seen kame sennin do it yet?
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nicolas_3d wrote:Hi guys, I'm kind of a newbie in regards to dragon ball heroes cards, i own a few that i bought online but there is one information i can't find.
I know where to find the gummy boxes and starter packs, like on amazon japan, yahoo auction and all, but where do you find the booster packs? all the rare cards, the CP and the SR, where do you get those? Are there any booster packs?
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budokaifanatic007 wrote:So is Goku supposed to have a new attack? He hasn't seen kame sennin do it yet?
While it doesn't entirely make sense seeing how he learned it from Gohan (though you could rationalize it), Kakarotto here has the Janken as his attack.
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