Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[ZombieVito]

Well Vegeta is finished.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Vegeta still has a chance to win Just one blast and Raichi is finished...
Unless Raichi knows how to fight which I doubt....

[omegalucas]

Pretty sure Raichi can still summon Hatchiyack.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Pretty sure Raichi can still summon Hatchiyack.

How ? I don't see Raichi carrying around a huge ass super computer...
But hey with all the stuff that has happen in this manga so far I wouldn't be surprised if he did show up...

[TheDevilsCorpse]

How ? I don't see Raichi carrying around a huge ass super computer...
But hey with all the stuff that has happen in this manga so far I wouldn't be surprised if he did show up...

He doesn't have to? We know very little about that universe and what we have seen of the original Hatchihyack and Rachi isn't much better. He started off as a super computer that was given a body once it accumulated enough hatred. Perhaps if that happened while Raichi was still alive, then he can control him in the same manner as his ghosts (which don't function the same as in the original version anyway).

[AquaTeamV3]

I'd be more surprised if Raichi were able to move in 100x gravity to actually do anything about Vegeta. Vegeta may be injured and out of stamina, but I don't see why he couldn't just walk over to Raichi and punch him, if not fire a quick ki blast or something. Still, it would make for a touch of poetic irony if Raichi brought out the U3 Vegeta ghost and had it kill him.

[Doctor.]

When Gast killed the Cell Jr. in his fight, he shot straight through the nucleus in his head, killing him instantly. Vegeta destroyed the head of this one, plus you can see the rest of his body fading away in the first panel. I don't think he's coming back.

Yet Cell came back after Goku blew his entire top half apart. Later Cell points right at his head when mentioning the nucleus so how did Cell come back from the Shunkan Ido Kamehameha. Honestly Cell is like Buu. You gotta erase every scrap to keep him down.

Simple, plot hole.

[RandomGuy96]

Cell was probably just lying about the nucleus being in his head. I know he's dumb, but I like to think that he's not so dumb that he'd point at his head and then say "to kill me, just shoot right here".

[Scarz]

I really want Vegeta to win this... but I got a feeling he's done for here.

[ChahikoDBZ]

I really want Vegeta to win this... but I got a feeling he's done for here.

Agreed. I'm hoping to see him pull through even with how slim his chances are now.

[dbzfan7]

Good. I'm not interested in this Vegeta, I'd rather more Raichi.

[sintzu]

The only way he can win is if Raichi doesn't have any ghosts left.

In terms of Ssj3 i think the best way to use it is to only use it during heavy attacks then go back to 2 for normal combat.

[omegalucas]

The only way he can win is if Raichi doesn't have any ghosts left.

In terms of Ssj3 i think the best way to use it is to only use it during heavy attacks then go back to 2 for normal combat.

So, pretty much like Trunks does with the Grade forms.

[Marco Polo]

The only way he can win is if Raichi doesn't have any ghosts left.

In terms of Ssj3 i think the best way to use it is to only use it during heavy attacks then go back to 2 for normal combat.

So, pretty much like Trunks does with the Grade forms.

Or similar to the Kaio Ken.

[RandomGuy96]

In terms of Ssj3 i think the best way to use it is to only use it during heavy attacks then go back to 2 for normal combat.

If you try that, you'll suddenly find that your opponent has put a hole in your chest faster than you could see them.

A significantly higher power level negates any drawbacks. If the opponent is anywhere near weak enough that you could actually survive as a SS2, they'd go down to one punch when you're a SS3, meaning energy drain will never have a chance to be an issue.

[miguelnuva1]

In terms of Ssj3 i think the best way to use it is to only use it during heavy attacks then go back to 2 for normal combat.

If you try that, you'll suddenly find that your opponent has put a hole in your chest faster than you could see them.

A significantly higher power level negates any drawbacks. If the opponent is anywhere near weak enough that you could actually survive as a SS2, they'd go down to one punch when you're a SS3, meaning energy drain will never have a chance to be an issue.

I don't think people realize this when think about SSJ3 at first. If s SSJ2 can fight against who ever it is your fighting SSJ3 should be able to one shot.

[Fionordequester]

So basically, SS3 compared to SSJ2 is like "SSJ Grade II" vs. plain old Super Saiyan. The Grade II form may have some drawbacks, but it's still a heck of a lot better than plain old Super Saiyan.

[miguelnuva1]

So basically, SS3 compared to SSJ2 is like "SSJ Grade II" vs. plain old Super Saiyan. The Grade II form may have some drawbacks, but it's still a heck of a lot better than plain old Super Saiyan.

Nope, Grade II's gap over SSJ especially a MSSJ isn't enough to over come the draw backs.

[Fionordequester]

Nope, Grade II's gap over SSJ especially a MSSJ isn't enough to over come the draw backs.

Whoa now, MSSJ ain't just "regular ol' Super Saiyan". That's why I qualified that statement. But, Vegeta fared far better against Cell than he probably otherwise would have with Grade II than without it.

Grade III on the other hand, what Trunk's used? That wasn't so good.

[rereboy]

In terms of Ssj3 i think the best way to use it is to only use it during heavy attacks then go back to 2 for normal combat.

If you try that, you'll suddenly find that your opponent has put a hole in your chest faster than you could see them.

A significantly higher power level negates any drawbacks. If the opponent is anywhere near weak enough that you could actually survive as a SS2, they'd go down to one punch when you're a SS3, meaning energy drain will never have a chance to be an issue.

Not really. SSJ2 Vegeta managed to not die (again) agaisnt Kid Buu and obviously SSJ3 Goku didn't one shot him. Same thing with Fat Buu, Vegeta managed to hold out agaisnt him for a while and SSJ3 Goku didn't one shot Fat Buu.

So, it will depend on the situation. Also, an adversary like Buu can possibly make a SSJ3 wear itself out even if he has a power disadvantage purely due to his stamina and regeneration.