Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[RandomGuy96]

Just how is a 16-year old an adult? In DBM Bra is two years older then Pan (Bra was born in 778 and Pan was born in 780) and Pan is stated explicitely at the beginning of the novelization to be 14.

Women typically reach their full height by age 16 (exceptions exist, of course, but they're extremely rare), so that's a meaningless distinction. She's like 4'9 relative to Trunks on this page. It's not impossible for her just to be really, really short (seriously, that's below the minimum requirement to be considered a dwarf), but as you pointed out, she generally hasn't been drawn as such for most of the comic. Even in one of the scans you posted, she's not as short relative to Trunks.

[Tzigi]

Just how is a 16-year old an adult? In DBM Bra is two years older then Pan (Bra was born in 778 and Pan was born in 780) and Pan is stated explicitely at the beginning of the novelization to be 14.

Women typically reach their full height by age 16 (exceptions exist, of course, but they're extremely rare), so that's a meaningless distinction. She's like 4'9 relative to Trunks on this page. It's not impossible for her just to be really, really short (seriously, that's below the minimum requirement to be considered a dwarf), but she's generally not drawn as such.

And now we're entering into another kind of debate - Bra is not a human (BTW: I'm not quite sure whether I agree with you about women reaching their full height by 16 - I was an early bloomer yet I stopped growing only at 19 and most of my female friends grew well into their twenties stopping around 22-23). She's half-human, half-Saiyan (and this Saiyan is a special Saiyan - a fusion). Vegeta is short (BTW: his height in the original manga is horribly inconsistent - he's almost a dwarf when he first appears and he grows to almost Goku's height by the end of the manga) and Goku was shown to grow only very late (when he came to participate in the 23rd TB so when he was around 18) and even then he reached his full height later. So it makes all the sense in the world for Bra in DBM not to have reached her full height by this point.

BUT:

she used to be taller. It's just the fact that Asura draws her smaller - not only on this page. So it's a stylistic choice.

[Attitudefan]

A competant artist makes sure that heights are consistent, that's why height charts exist during the development stage. Ironically, both Asura and Gogeta Jr are consistent except that Asura is not following the original design. And yes, height is part of character design too.

Asura should be careful about maintaining, roughly, the heights. Even the anime was fairly consistent throughout each arc until the style changed drastically in the Cell Games arc. Goku will usually hit Ten's shoulder area since the 23rd Budokai all the way through the manga (and even the anime during its initial run). That's just one example but it is actually fairly consistent with the characters being in a short range of offset in centimetres.

Spoiler:

Goku and Tenshinhan remain the EXACT SAME distance since 1988/1989 all the way till present day. Yep. Despite different artists, the accuracy (because of pre-production preparation) remains about the same over two decades. Especially in important scenes or well drawn scenes (which are usually important to the story).

Actually, counter to what I said, Krillin had shrunk since the Saiyan arc and remains where he is at from the Cell arc onwards as shorter than his listed height if we compare him to Goku. But at least since the Cell arc it has been consistent

[Marco Polo]

What makes you guys think it's Asura's fault. Maybe it was Salagir's decision.

[rereboy]

A competant artist makes sure that heights are consistent, that's why height charts exist during the development stage.

Toriyama is not a competent artist?

[jjgp1112]

[Kamiccolo9]

I like those guys at the bottom. Who are they?

[rereboy]

I like those guys at the bottom. Who are they?

[Kamiccolo9]

Oh, ok. I remember them. Thanks.

[goku the krump dancer]

I gotta see U13 Vegeta lol... So does Raichi No longer have his new Ghosts?

[SSJ God Gogeta]

I gotta see U13 Vegeta lol... So does Raichi No longer have his new Ghosts?

That is correct, so that means Raichi is going to get destroyed in his next match.

[rereboy]

I gotta see U13 Vegeta lol... So does Raichi No longer have his new Ghosts?

That is correct, so that means Raichi is going to get destroyed in his next match.

That is NOT correct. You have no idea how his machine works and Its unlikely that his machine uses the actual souls of the people that died, so there would be no need for the people to remain dead for his machine to continue to work with the same ghosts. Its basically unknown at this point.

[Darkron2151]

That is correct, so that means Raichi is going to get destroyed in his next match.

It's not like he would've stood a chance against that Behemoth of a Namekian anyways .

[coola]

Raichi already had ghost of Vegeta during his fight, so i don't think he have to steal soul Shang Tsung style in order to create Ghost Warriors.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

I gotta see U13 Vegeta lol... So does Raichi No longer have his new Ghosts?

That is correct, so that means Raichi is going to get destroyed in his next match.

That is NOT correct. You have no idea how his machine works and Its unlikely that his machine uses the actual souls of the people that died, so there would be no need for the people to remain dead for his machine to continue to work with the same ghosts. Its basically unknown at this point.

Even if what you say is some how true, Raichi still stands no chance against the Namek.

It's not like he would've stood a chance against that Behemoth of a Namekian anyways .

You can say that again.

[rereboy]

Even if what you say is some how true, Raichi still stands no chance against the Namek.:

Never said he did.

[Skar]

That was long before I was asked to cease any discussion.

Nah, I gave it a higher rating than I think it deserves because I guess I let my mind be clouded and focused only on the good. Mostly, I wasn't considering the specials as much as I should have when giving my opinion. Those are about half the comic, and unlike the main story, which is a mixed bag, the specials are pretty consistently awful. Except for the Bojack special, that's by far the most entertaining part of the entire comic.

Yeah most of the specials were pretty bad but their only purpose seems to be filler most of the time. There's no point in showing Cell killing the Z fighters one-by-one or Raditz fighting Tien and Yamcha for half the special. It's there to give the main artist more time. I do think it hurts the overall quality of the comic and it might have been better to slowdown the pace to 2 pages a week with shorter specials. I'm sure if Salagir had more artists for the main story he would have shorter, more informative specials like for U1/U10. I can't really complain though since the only worthwhile thing to do would be to go to Deviantart or something, look for more artists, and recommend them. It would be pretty hard to find someone as good as Asura or Gogeta Jr. The only artists I could think of who are comparable have their own stories they're working on.

[Attitudefan]

A competant artist makes sure that heights are consistent, that's why height charts exist during the development stage.

Toriyama is not a competent artist?

I'm saying he is. Albeit, he does love to change his style a lot once he finished the Saiyan arc (till this day); like drastically. But he's pretty consistent with things like this. Even the animators at Toei were fascinated by Toriyama's simple yet detailed art. It's the little things that count too!

[mAcChaos]

What if Vegeta is so mad he just decides to attack Raichi immediately, tournament be damned.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I like those guys at the bottom. Who are they?

It's just a flesh wound...