Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by ChahikoDBZ » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:02 pm

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Chuquita wrote:Does anyone remember where on tv the first BOG trailer proper aired on tv in Japan?
I want to say it was during OP Sunday morning.
Trying to guess a time for 「F」's first one.

Just wondering, we're a week away from the time of year when the first real trailer appears, typically.
I'm also very eager for the first trailer, maybe I will be surprised.
I already saw someone posting a fake trailer on Facebook. You click play and it's like an actual image within the video that says "Video Removed". Lol
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Post by Chuquita » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:20 pm

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Chuquita wrote:Does anyone remember where on tv the first BOG trailer proper aired on tv in Japan?
I want to say it was during OP Sunday morning.
Trying to guess a time for 「F」's first one.

Just wondering, we're a week away from the time of year when the first real trailer appears, typically.
Fuji TV aired it on Friday or Saturday morning 07 December 2012.
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I'm hopeful it'll be next week for 「F」.

Still surprised they haven't named the character designer yet, but judging from the poster they probably gave Yamamuro both jobs for whatever reason (is it really cheaper this way?).

I really wanted a new character designer.
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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:32 pm

No, it's not cheaper. The character designer for a television series makes even more money than the series director, though I doubt it's different for a film given the character designer typically acts as the chief animation supervisor. The chief animation supervisor is typically more on-hands with the key animators (unless the director himself is a talented animator). We know Yamamuro is creating new character designs for the main characters, so I can't imagine this was a case of Yamamuro needing to save time by reusing his old designs. My guess is that he asked to direct the film or was asked to by request of Toriyama...or Morishita Kouzou.

This is Yamamuro's first directing gig, so I can't imagine he was brought on to 'save money' so much as because nobody else would want to direct a movie on the budget and production schedule this movie is going to have.
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Post by Bullza » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:43 pm

I really hope Pilaf isn't going to be in this one. I have no idea what Toriyama was thinking when he decided to bring him back, out of everything that was the movies biggest downfall. Was it part of being a reunion movie or to appeal to the little kids or something?

Now that this is the second movie I'm hoping they'll get out of the nostalgia mode to have a greater focus on the story with a smaller crop of characters who do and say more.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:52 pm

Bullza wrote:I really hope Pilaf isn't going to be in this one. I have no idea what Toriyama was thinking when he decided to bring him back, out of everything that was the movies biggest downfall. Was it part of being a reunion movie or to appeal to the little kids or something?

Now that this is the second movie I'm hoping they'll get out of the nostalgia mode to have a greater focus on the story with a smaller crop of characters who do and say more.
Don't talk about "getting out of nostalgia mode" when it seems all your saying is you want this film to return to the one trick ponies movies 1-13 were. If you dont like change, you got plenty of films to enjoy as it is.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:54 pm

Bullza wrote:I really hope Pilaf isn't going to be in this one. I have no idea what Toriyama was thinking when he decided to bring him back, out of everything that was the movies biggest downfall. Was it part of being a reunion movie or to appeal to the little kids or something?

Now that this is the second movie I'm hoping they'll get out of the nostalgia mode to have a greater focus on the story with a smaller crop of characters who do and say more.
I read that instead of Pilaf there was going to be a group of random robbers, if that is true then I am all the more glad AT changed it and put Pilaf and co in.

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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:02 pm

I want to see Tao Pai Pai and Crane Hermit in this one. Seriously!
They are one of those DB characters we didn't saw again but same as Pilaf, are present somewhere in DB World.
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Post by Bullza » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:09 pm

Don't talk about "getting out of nostalgia mode" when it seems all your saying is you want this film to return to the one trick ponies movies 1-13 were.


Well that was a very random (and incorrect) assumption. Battle of Gods was far better than Movies 1-13 so no I don't want it to return to that. What I want is for them to not bring back old shitty characters from the past only to then make them even shittier and take up a good portion of the film with complete nonsense that could have otherwise been spent developing the story or giving some actual good characters more than one line.
I read that instead of Pilaf there was going to be a group of random robbers, if that is true then I am all the more glad AT changed it and put Pilaf and co in.


Maybe it was better than having randoms but that entire subplot was unbelievably lame and should definitely have been cut and replaced with something worthwhile.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:17 pm

Bullza wrote:
Don't talk about "getting out of nostalgia mode" when it seems all your saying is you want this film to return to the one trick ponies movies 1-13 were.


Well that was a very random (and incorrect) assumption. Battle of Gods was far better than Movies 1-13 so no I don't want it to return to that. What I want is for them to not bring back old shitty characters from the past only to then make them even shittier and take up a good portion of the film with complete nonsense that could have otherwise been spent developing the story or giving some actual good characters more than one line.
I read that instead of Pilaf there was going to be a group of random robbers, if that is true then I am all the more glad AT changed it and put Pilaf and co in.


Maybe it was better than having randoms but that entire subplot was unbelievably lame and should definitely have been cut and replaced with something worthwhile.
Blame Toriyama then for giving the Pilaf gang more personality than Tienshinhan and Yamcha then. I found those 3 far more funny and interesting than characters who became utterly irrelevant by Namek.
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Post by ParkerAL » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:26 pm

The Pilaf Gang were great in Battle of Gods and I have no problem with them making further appearances in upcoming movies (though they might not fit in a movie going for a more dramatic tone). They're pretty much Dragon Ball's Team Rocket.
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Post by cesarcoronel07 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:28 pm

I know i'm late and whatnot but, FRIEZA RESURRECTED?! :shock: and why is Krillin bald again? And is that YAMCHA?! By the way, I like Goku and Vegeta's new attires, but what is that symbol that Goku has, is he training with Birus now? Anyways, I assume that this movie takes place after BOG judging by Birus and Whis in the image...I Forgot to mention, why does Frieza have a SSJ God aura? :wtf:

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:35 pm

MCDaveG wrote:I want to see Tao Pai Pai and Crane Hermit in this one. Seriously!
They are one of those DB characters we didn't saw again but same as Pilaf, are present somewhere in DB World.
I would imagine Tao Pai Pai and Vodka are likely dead for good. Either he died from Super Buu's attack or he died when Kid Buu blew up the Earth. He was more evil then #17 and Pilaf since he killed more people then any of those two have in their life time. Vegeta said bring back everyone expect for the really evil ones. I think Tao would be consider to be really evil. If the gun men that made Buu angry for almost killing Mr. Satan never came back then I would imagine Tao and Vodka never been brought back.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:36 pm

cesarcoronel07 wrote:I know i'm late and whatnot but, Freeza RESURRECTED?! :shock: and why is Krillin bald again? And is that YAMCHA?! By the way, I like Goku and Vegeta's new attires, but what is that symbol that Goku has, is he training with Birus now? Anyways, I assume that this movie takes place after BOG judging by Birus and Whis in the image...I Forgot to mention, why does Freeza have a SSJ God aura? :wtf:
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Post by Bullza » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:37 pm

More personality isn't a good thing if he's just an annoying, unfunny, childish character who draws turds on the wall. Tienshinhan may not be the most exciting or interesting character but at least he isn't going to let the movie down. Someone like Pilaf got that much screen on a completely unimportant subplot while a fan favourite like Piccolo didn't do squat.
They're pretty much Dragon Ball's Team Rocket.


That's actually an excellent comparison. Team Rocket were also annoying and shitty characters who let down the entire show so where even worse really. Thankfully Pilaf was never a heavily recurring character.

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Post by cesarcoronel07 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:41 pm

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cesarcoronel07 wrote:I know i'm late and whatnot but, Freeza RESURRECTED?! :shock: and why is Krillin bald again? And is that YAMCHA?! By the way, I like Goku and Vegeta's new attires, but what is that symbol that Goku has, is he training with Birus now? Anyways, I assume that this movie takes place after BOG judging by Birus and Whis in the image...I Forgot to mention, why does Freeza have a SSJ God aura? :wtf:
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Post by Ajay » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:42 pm

cesarcoronel07 wrote:
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cesarcoronel07 wrote:I know i'm late and whatnot but, Freeza RESURRECTED?! :shock: and why is Krillin bald again? And is that YAMCHA?! By the way, I like Goku and Vegeta's new attires, but what is that symbol that Goku has, is he training with Birus now? Anyways, I assume that this movie takes place after BOG judging by Birus and Whis in the image...I Forgot to mention, why does Freeza have a SSJ God aura? :wtf:
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Post by cesarcoronel07 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:44 pm

Bullza wrote:More personality isn't a good thing if he's just an annoying, unfunny, childish character who draws turds on the wall. Tenshinhan may not be the most exciting or interesting character but at least he isn't going to let the movie down. Someone like Pilaf got that much screen on a completely unimportant subplot while a fan favourite like Piccolo didn't do squat.
They're pretty much Dragon Ball's Team Rocket.


That's actually an excellent comparison. Team Rocket were also annoying and shitty characters who let down the entire show so where even worse really. Thankfully Pilaf was never a heavily recurring character.
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Post by Kaboom » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:49 pm

Bullza wrote:
They're pretty much Dragon Ball's Team Rocket.

That's actually an excellent comparison. Team Rocket were also annoying and shitty characters who let down the entire show so where even worse really.
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Post by cesarcoronel07 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:52 pm

So it is Gohan huh? I guess everybody that fought against Frieza is here...

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Post by Chuquita » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:53 pm

JulieYBM wrote:No, it's not cheaper. The character designer for a television series makes even more money than the series director, though I doubt it's different for a film given the character designer typically acts as the chief animation supervisor. The chief animation supervisor is typically more on-hands with the key animators (unless the director himself is a talented animator). We know Yamamuro is creating new character designs for the main characters, so I can't imagine this was a case of Yamamuro needing to save time by reusing his old designs. My guess is that he asked to direct the film or was asked to by request of Toriyama...or Morishita Kouzou.

This is Yamamuro's first directing gig, so I can't imagine he was brought on to 'save money' so much as because nobody else would want to direct a movie on the budget and production schedule this movie is going to have.
That's so sad; like it's being neglected solely because Toei didn't want to give it more production time. :(
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