Battle of Gods compared to One Piece Film Z

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Depends what part of Europe you're talking about. In the UK, there is no One Piece anime. Period. Not since Toonami stopped broadcasting in 2007.

Not quite true. It doesn't air on TV, but Manga UK is releasing DVD-collections based off FUNi's sets. Not sure how far along they've gotten. They're also getting the movies in these three-pack DVD-sets, so they're actually even getting things that FUNi has not put out themselves. (Though I hear their subtitles for the movies are somewhat poor.)

As for the topic... yeah, as my avatar might indicate I'm gonna have to say Film Z is the superior movie. Aside from having vastly superior animation-quality, it's also a lot more "cinematic" in terms of its story, characterization, pacing etc., and honestly it feels like a more satisfying experience. (Because really, Battle of Gods's ending was in some senses a little too inconclusive.)

We're on collection 8 (eps 183–205), Regarding the movie pack, apparently the subtitles were translated from French or something silly like that. I would like to get into OP but the episode count is quite scary lol

Does anyone have any screens of Film Z, would like to compare it to BoG since most folks saying it looks superior, (I thought BoG looked great except for the infamous CG scene).

[rereboy]

Some random gifs I found about film Z.

Spoiler:

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Oh wow that looks pretty good, thanks. Since BoG was a success hopefully Toei give FnF a better budget.

[Chuquita]

I hope we'll get more mood lighting this time. The recent OP movies have had plenty of it; the only real mood lighting we got was during Whis' introduction and then near the end of the battle. It's present in all the OP gifs that were posted above.

[JulieYBM]

I guess we missed the post where I linked to higher-quality WebM files of One Piece Film Z's best animation?

All Kami to Kami has going for it in terms of action animation is Shida's scene. Oonishi Ryou's effects during the Super Saiyan God ritual were his usual flavor of awesomeness but even that isn't nearly as satisfying. The awful coloring of the Super Saiyan God aura during Kan'no Yoshihiro's cuts make it hard to tell what the heck he did here, too.

Hopefully we'll see some of the key animators from One Piece 3D2Y work on Fukkatsu no F. Their work with Watanabe Koudai's designs were stellar...of course, Watanabe's designs were stellar themselves, so that helps.

[ParkerAL]

I give Toei a lot of crap for sub-par animation, but One Piece Film Z looks incredible. Very fluid and visually appealing.

[Black_Liger]

Some random gifs I found about film Z.

Spoiler:

Holy! Those shots really want to make me watch the movie, well it's now or never, Not going to check the anime or manga, but I guess I'll take on the movies!

[NintendoBlaze53]

Oh good seems a few people liked it more than BOG. I was worried of some of "those" people, but I forgot how civilized Kanzenshuu is compared to the rest of the internet. Film Z in my opinion is the better movie BOG only has a couple of well animated scenes (i.e. God transformation, HERO) The CG in Film Z is Godsends (Pun intended) above BOG. At the end of the film when Zoro & Sanji are fighting girl henchmen and henchmen with weird power, there are some great CG panning shots, as opposed to the PS2 CG in BOG. The Donkey Kong Country/James Bond silhouette intro looked great. As for the villain Zefer seemed one dimensional until the end, where I liked him more. He was better than Shiki from Strong World, but no Beerus.

Better in tems of what? Animation, quality? In both aspects, Film Z is much better, which is not surprising considering One Piece is a better written and overall a much better series than Dragon Ball; and Toei Animation also puts more effort into animating OP specials and movies than DB's.

As far as the art and animation goes here are a couple of scenes from Dragon ball z movie 5.
SNIP
While the art for BOG might not be up to snuff lets not pretend that, that was always the case.

Movie 5 came out when Dragon Ball was in it's hey day. BOG was a gamble for Toei. "Could a Dragon ball film work in today's anime industry?" as we saw yes. But right now One Piece is in it's hey day, it is the king.

I hope we'll get more mood lighting this time. The recent OP movies have had plenty of it; the only real mood lighting we got was during Whis' introduction and then near the end of the battle. It's present in all the OP gifs that were posted above.

I guess we missed the post where I linked to higher-quality WebM files of One Piece Film Z's best animation?

All Kami to Kami has going for it in terms of action animation is Shida's scene. Oonishi Ryou's effects during the Super Saiyan God ritual were his usual flavor of awesomeness but even that isn't nearly as satisfying. The awful coloring of the Super Saiyan God aura during Kan'no Yoshihiro's cuts make it hard to tell what the heck he did here, too.

Hopefully we'll see some of the key animators from One Piece 3D2Y work on Fukkatsu no F. Their work with Watanabe Koudai's designs were stellar...of course, Watanabe's designs were stellar themselves, so that helps.

Fukkatsu no F looks to be using shadows and shading if the poster is anything to go by. It looks a lot darker compared to BOG's poster. I hope we do have some nice shading effects as the shading and shadows in Film Z look amazing.

[JulieYBM]

You can't tell what the film is going to look like based off of the poster. Even if Yamamuro asks animators to try to add shadow animation it doesn't mean they're going to be able to do it all the time.

[EXBadguy]

I enjoy both, but BOG wins by backstory and Film Z wins by the main storyline.

I do think however that when One piece end, nobody will even try to read it or watch it, way too long. Impossible to follow if it has 10 more years.

Yeah man. I'm honestly starting to lose interest in One Piece. It's too damn long, the story isn't moving forward anymore, and I don't have time to wait for some characters(Blackbeard, Shanks, the Yonko) to fully appear for the next damn 200-300 chapters. IT'S TOO MUCH! I guarantee by the time when some of us turn 40, Luffy STILL didn't find the treasure yet. That's why I'm glad DB ended, even though I think they should've earlier ended it at either Frieza or Cell(mostly for me).

[FortuneSSJ]

I don't like how the OP movie title is a obvious reference to Dragon Ball Z. Its not surprising when the name was revealed, a lot of people asked if it would be a crossover.
I know Oda is a Toriyama fanboy but I expected a more original title. Its like Naruto sequel be officialy called Naruto Z instead of Naruto Shippuden.

I do think however that when One piece end, nobody will even try to read it or watch it, way too long. Impossible to follow if it has 10 more years.

Well, this is the truth!
I started watching One Piece some months ago. The reason I hesitate so much to watch its because its way too long and I don't see it to ever end.
I didn't like the art either but you get used to it.

This year, when Oda said One Piece will continue for another 10 years i just laughed...
I always said One Piece is like Pokemon anime. Both will never end and the original fanbase will die before seeing the main character achieve his goal.

I started watching because I needed something new and there are arcs and movies that seem interesting to me. This Film z for example, seems really great.
The colors, fight scenes, sountracks, character design I want to see it!

[Chuquita]

I find movies a great way to approach series that can be otherwise inapprochably long. That's how I got into OP. Honestly the biggest thing keeping me around in terms of keeping up with that series are the manga chapter reviews the OPP does. They're entertaining to me and those character voices that have slowly appeared for a lot of the secondary characters are so much fun. X3

[rereboy]

There's nothing wrong with the lenght of one piece. Its a comic, its read pretty fast, even with its great number of volumes, and there's always new chapters and volumes coming out. An actual long book series takes more to get through and i've honestly never seen anyone complain about that as long as its good.

[Super Sonic]

Picked up Film Z yesterday so well compare later. And EXBadguy, what's a yonko? Or at least its translated name?

[NintendoBlaze53]

I don't like how the OP movie title is a obvious reference to Dragon Ball Z. Its not surprising when the name was revealed, a lot of people asked if it would be a crossover.
I know Oda is a Toriyama fanboy but I expected a more original title. Its like Naruto sequel be officialy called Naruto Z instead of Naruto Shippuden.

I do think however that when One piece end, nobody will even try to read it or watch it, way too long. Impossible to follow if it has 10 more years.

Well, this is the truth!
I started watching One Piece some months ago. The reason I hesitate so much to watch its because its way too long and I don't see it to ever end.
I didn't like the art either but you get used to it.

This year, when Oda said One Piece will continue for another 10 years i just laughed...
I always said One Piece is like Pokemon anime. Both will never end and the original fanbase will die before seeing the main character achieve his goal.

I started watching because I needed something new and there are arcs and movies that seem interesting to me. This Film z for example, seems really great.
The colors, fight scenes, sountracks, character design I want to see it!

Umm, not even close. The titles have noting to do with each other. The Z refers to the main antagonist Z[ed] or Zephyr. In English the title would be correctly read as Film Z(ed) as opposed to Dragon Ball Z(ee). If something has a Z by itself in the title does that make it a Dragon Ball reference?

The chance of people not watching it when it's over cause of length is wrong. We don't know how great the next 10 years could be the ending could be amazing and make people sit through what would then be 100 eps or 150 volumes or something.

[SaiyaJedi]

Picked up Film Z yesterday so well compare later. And EXBadguy, what's a yonko? Or at least its translated name?

The 四皇 are the "Four Emperors" of the sea. Shanks is one. Whitebeard was another.

And I've never quite understood the fandom's insistence on not translating Japanese terms not connected to Zoro's swords or to Wanokuni, since "Japan" is largely irrelevant to the 'verse.

[Dbzk1999]

Picked up Film Z yesterday so well compare later. And EXBadguy, what's a yonko? Or at least its translated name?

To go further into it
The four yonko are the four emperors.
They're the 4 most powerful pirates in the world
Edward Newgate (whitebeard) was formerly one, he was replaced by Marshall D Teach (blackbeard)
The other 3 yonkos are Kaido, "Red Hair" Shanks, and Big Mom

[FortuneSSJ]

I don't like how the OP movie title is a obvious reference to Dragon Ball Z. Its not surprising when the name was revealed, a lot of people asked if it would be a crossover.
I know Oda is a Toriyama fanboy but I expected a more original title. Its like Naruto sequel be officialy called Naruto Z instead of Naruto Shippuden.

Umm, not even close. The titles have noting to do with each other. The Z refers to the main antagonist Z[ed] or Zephyr. In English the title would be correctly read as Film Z(ed) as opposed to Dragon Ball Z(ee). If something has a Z by itself in the title does that make it a Dragon Ball reference?

Knowing Oda is a Toriyama fanboy?! Yes it is! I know it has to do with the villain name but that just seems a excuse to put the Z in the title.
Should Broly movies, for example, be called: Dragon Ball Z B?! Of course not, there are more original titles.

The new DBZ movie is another example. Fukkatsu no F title was inspired by Maximum the Hormone F song.

[NintendoBlaze53]

I don't like how the OP movie title is a obvious reference to Dragon Ball Z. Its not surprising when the name was revealed, a lot of people asked if it would be a crossover.
I know Oda is a Toriyama fanboy but I expected a more original title. Its like Naruto sequel be officialy called Naruto Z instead of Naruto Shippuden.

Umm, not even close. The titles have noting to do with each other. The Z refers to the main antagonist Z[ed] or Zephyr. In English the title would be correctly read as Film Z(ed) as opposed to Dragon Ball Z(ee). If something has a Z by itself in the title does that make it a Dragon Ball reference?

Knowing Oda is a Toriyama fanboy?! Yes it is! I know it has to do with the villain name but that just seems a excuse to put the Z in the title.
Should Broly movies, for example, be called: Dragon Ball Z B?! Of course not, there are more original titles.

The new DBZ movie is another example. Fukkatsu no F title was inspired by Maximum the Hormone F song.

It might be a nod to Toriyama, but nothing more. Kishimoto might be a bigger Dragon Ball fan, he owns a life sized Freeza statue after all.

Picked up Film Z yesterday so well compare later. And EXBadguy, what's a yonko? Or at least its translated
name?

The 四皇 are the "Four Emperors" of the sea. Shanks is one. Whitebeard was another.

And I've never quite understood the fandom's insistence on not translating Japanese terms not connected to Zoro's swords or to Wanokuni, since "Japan" is largely irrelevant to the 'verse.

Then what about Haki. a lot of people seemed pleased Funimation kept Haki instead of changing it to 'Willpower' or something of the like. Also are Funimation's translation of 'Seven Warlords of the Sea' accurate I've seen a few debates about that and would like some extra context into the translation debate.

[Super Sonic]

Viz manga uses Seven Warlords of the Sea, as well as Four Emperors. That's what I've used. They also used Haki.