Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Saiga]

I like the little joke with "Gohana" continuing on from the original special's "Gokua".

Gokua is his real name from Bojack Unbound

That's what I meant. I forgot the name of the movie and wasn't thinking that DBM has specials as well.

Yeah, so Bojack Unbound gave us Gokua, and it's been pointed out a lot of times in the fandom how strange it is to be one letter off of Goku. So I think Gohana is a little joke based on that.

[Gyt Kaliba]

This special is boring, and the artwork isn't funny enough to make up for it.

Previous specials haven't exactly proven to be good enough to have high hopes for this one, but still - three pages and that's really enough to declare it 'boring' or not already?

[RandomGuy96]

This special is boring, and the artwork isn't funny enough to make up for it.

Previous specials haven't exactly proven to be good enough to have high hopes for this one, but still - three pages and that's really enough to declare it 'boring' or not already?

I'm mostly talking about the premise and the art, which is all I really need to know for a special like this. The art isn't really good (like the Gast special's art) or so bad that it's entertaining (like the Bojack special's art), and the idea of exploring Bojack's past just doesn't interest me. I'm not sure why Salagir thinks we need to know this, or what this has to do with DBM.

[DNA]

I'm mostly talking about the premise and the art, which is all I really need to know for a special like this. The art isn't really good (like the Gast special's art) or so bad that it's entertaining (like the Bojack special's art), and the idea of exploring Bojack's past just doesn't interest me.

Agreed, especially since this origin story completely ruins the mysticism behind the Hera Clan, so dangerous that the Kaios had to intervene.

I'm not sure why Salagir thinks we need to know this, or what this has to do with DBM.

It's called an intermission or interlude, it's not that Salagir thinks we need to know, it's more of a way to kill time whilst he prepares more plot for the main story or the artist draws more pages. They clearly don't exist for their quality, since it has consistently been sub-par.

[FoolsGil]

I'm mostly talking about the premise and the art, which is all I really need to know for a special like this. The art isn't really good (like the Gast special's art) or so bad that it's entertaining (like the Bojack special's art), and the idea of exploring Bojack's past just doesn't interest me.

Agreed, especially since this origin story completely ruins the mysticism behind the Hera Clan, so dangerous that the Kaios had to intervene.

I'm not sure why Salagir thinks we need to know this, or what this has to do with DBM.

It's called an intermission or interlude, it's not that Salagir thinks we need to know, it's more of a way to kill time whilst he prepares more plot for the main story or the artist draws more pages. They clearly don't exist for their quality, since it has consistently been sub-par.

And it was stated that some of these artists got their own ideas for things, and Saligir doesn't want a hiatus between main stories so he lets them post what they want.

[Tzigi]

I'm mostly talking about the premise and the art, which is all I really need to know for a special like this. The art isn't really good (like the Gast special's art) or so bad that it's entertaining (like the Bojack special's art), and the idea of exploring Bojack's past just doesn't interest me.

Agreed, especially since this origin story completely ruins the mysticism behind the Hera Clan, so dangerous that the Kaios had to intervene.

I'm not sure why Salagir thinks we need to know this, or what this has to do with DBM.

It's called an intermission or interlude, it's not that Salagir thinks we need to know, it's more of a way to kill time whilst he prepares more plot for the main story or the artist draws more pages. They clearly don't exist for their quality, since it has consistently been sub-par.

And it was stated that some of these artists got their own ideas for things, and Saligir doesn't want a hiatus between main stories so he lets them post what they want.

And now you're twisting the meaning of my words. I didn't say that the specials were done without Salagir's supervision. I said two things:
1. The specials we see are those that are complete - done by motivated artists. And many DBM artists want only to draw special chapters concerning their favourite characters.
2. Sometimes the artist wants to develop some part of a story (like giving it more pages or more depth) or (s)he already has done some work on it (the main example being the Italian duo that had started making their own u13 special without even mentioning it to Salagir). Then Salagir analyzes it and gives the artist a bit of free reign. But that doesn't mean that Salagir "lets them post what they want" - he can accomodate their ideas and will but in the end it's all very strictly supervised.

[FoolsGil]

And now you're twisting the meaning of my words. I didn't say that the specials were done without Salagir's supervision. I said two things:
1. The specials we see are those that are complete - done by motivated artists. And many DBM artists want only to draw special chapters concerning their favourite characters.
2. Sometimes the artist wants to develop some part of a story (like giving it more pages or more depth) or (s)he already has done some work on it (the main example being the Italian duo that had started making their own u13 special without even mentioning it to Salagir). Then Salagir analyzes it and gives the artist a bit of free reign. But that doesn't mean that Salagir "lets them post what they want" - he can accomodate their ideas and will but in the end it's all very strictly supervised.

I never said that Saligir allows artists to post what they want without supervision. I just said he allows artists to post what they want

many DBM artists want only to draw special chapters concerning their favourite characters

You said that. They only draw specials on their favorite characters. Saligir isn't telling them to draw their non favorites, so yeah, they post what they want-and what they want is their favorite character's story told. I never said it was unsupervised, but this artist decided a Bojack backstory fanfiction that has nothing to do with alternate universes is more interesting than ANYTHING ELSE. Just because Saligir may give the okay or supervise the work, doesn't mean he is not bending to the artist's pens to prevent a hiatus.

[Tzigi]

many DBM artists want only to draw special chapters concerning their favourite characters

You said that. They only draw specials on their favorite characters. Saligir isn't telling them to draw their non favorites, so yeah, they post what they want-and what they want is their favorite character's story told. I never said it was unsupervised, but this artist decided a Bojack backstory fanfiction that has nothing to do with alternate universes is more interesting than ANYTHING ELSE. Just because Saligir may give the okay or supervise the work, doesn't mean he is not bending to the artist's pens to prevent a hiatus.

But it doesn't mean that they write the story! And, what's even more important, you never know whether a story is done because an artist wanted it and convinced Salagir or because Salagir wanted it and found an artist whose preferences happened to match the needs of the story. And claiming that "this artist decided a Bojack backstory fanfiction that has nothing to do with alternate universes is more interesting than ANYTHING ELSE" is plain wrong. This artist may have done many more chapters and Salagir may have decided to publish this specific one. Or maybe the artist thought that he could draw Bojack best of all DB characters or he wanted to draw anything and Salagir assigned this special chapter to him. There are many possibilities and using my words to claim something that in essence is "Salagir doesn't care about specials so he lets the artists publish shitty stories in order to stall for time for the main story" is a personal insult to me.

[FoolsGil]

But it doesn't mean that they write the story! And, what's even more important, you never know whether a story is done because an artist wanted it and convinced Salagir or because Salagir wanted it and found an artist whose preferences happened to match the needs of the story. And claiming that "this artist decided a Bojack backstory fanfiction that has nothing to do with alternate universes is more interesting than ANYTHING ELSE" is plain wrong. This artist may have done many more chapters and Salagir may have decided to publish this specific one. Or maybe the artist thought that he could draw Bojack best of all DB characters or he wanted to draw anything and Salagir assigned this special chapter to him. There are many possibilities and using my words to claim something that in essence is "Salagir doesn't care about specials so he lets the artists publish shitty stories in order to stall for time for the main story" is a personal insult to me.

Not sure why it insults you specifically, but I apologize for insulting you. Disregard what I said before, I was incorrect in my last few posts on the subject.

[ParkerAL]

So far, this special has caught my interest more than the past ones. I'm not sure why. Maybe its just that Bojack's past is such uncharted territory, and I'm curious to see someone at least try to give these colorless villains some background and development. Trope-heavy stories don't bother me as long as they're pulled off well, so I'm willing to buy into the super solider background. In hindsight, I would prefer an explanation for their powers that involved a bit more mysticism, but I think a technological explanation is a fair interpretation. The artwork itself looks nice enough, especially the facial designs -though the deficit of colors other than white and the minimal shading puts me off a bit.

[coola]

Yeah, we are experimenting on dangerous criminals to enhance their powers, what could possibly go wrong?

[ZombieVito]

That made me chuckle haha.

[Scarz]

Oh my god, was that intentional to be funny as hell?

[ParkerAL]

Ha!

Okay, these scientists are complete morons. I was hoping the special would at least try to come up with a logical explanation for why they would rely on criminals for their experiment, but I guess stupidity is all we will get.

Like I said before, the artists is good at drawing faces and characters, but his or her backgrounds need serious work.

[TonyTheTiger]

I hope this special continues to be this funny.

[FoolsGil]

It does have a...so bad it's good/funny quality to it, I guess.

[TheGmGoken]

Cliche humor is cliche.

[rereboy]

Ha!

Okay, these scientists are complete morons. I was hoping the special would at least try to come up with a logical explanation for why they would rely on criminals for their experiment, but I guess stupidity is all we will get.

Like I said before, the artists is good at drawing faces and characters, but his or her backgrounds need serious work.

Because experiments like that are terribly dangerous and will most likely kill you rather than have any positive results, and, as such, volunteers are very hard to come by?

Its true that the special doesn't spell that out for us, but it seems obvious. That's why the volunteers have noble backgrounds like military or firemen. Bujiin even has a "?" mark on his stats to, most likely, shows us that, even though he is listed as a volunteer, he is most likely is not, and was taken advantage of since he is an orphan.

[Lord Beerus]

Okay, that was pretty funny!

[BlazingBarrrager]

So who thought this was a good idea again?