Gohan turned Super Saiyan for the SSJG ritual too.Metalwario64 wrote:I just wanna know why the flippity flip Gohan isn't Ultimate anymore and Kulilin's bald again.
I was thinking more that they'd have some more input in regard the fighting scenes instead of being reserved to spectate on the sidelines. Those guys aren't going to put up any sort of a fight but I thought that it would be cool to see Piccolo and Kuririn have some sort of involvement in saving the day even if it is just some grunts.RandomGuy96 wrote:I actually didn't see one of those for some reason. Base Goku is fighting Freeza? I guess he decided to toy around, and they didn't forget about the statement that Goku can't obliterate Freeza in base? Or are they suppose to be god powered there? Who knows.
These guys are just generic grunts. Freeza's generic thugs were weaker than Raditz. At the very least, they should be weaker than the Ginyus. You really think that killing these guys is a worthy task for Piccolo? Or even Krillin?Yes! Minions. Now Tenshinhan, Piccolo and Kuririn can have some time to shine in this movie, maybe.
It's not my logic, it's the manga's. The Ginyus were considered super-powerful freaks of nature, the strongest beings in the entire universe outside of Freeza's family. Freaking Dodoria was notable enough among Freeza's forces that he was basically Freeza's right hand man. We saw generic grunts like these on Namek; they got one-shotted by Raditz-tier powers. Then the other grunts got one-shotted by Nappa-tier powers. Even if you completely disregard the manga (not a bad policy when talking about the new material), the recent JSAT special established the new big boys on the block as being barely 1st form Freeza level. Why exactly would Piccolo be fighting them?And yes, these Freeza soldiers automatically have to be the same strength level that all the other ones were just because your logic says so Random. Totally.
That's the problem with DB, though. If those grunts are weak enough that someone as weak as Krillin can handle them no problem, how would he actually be helping when any other character could disintegrate all the grunts in that crowd with one blast in less time than it would take Krillin to blink?I was thinking more that they'd have some more input in regard the fighting scenes instead of being reserved to spectate on the sidelines. Those guys aren't going to put up any sort of a fight but I thought that it would be cool to see Piccolo and Kuririn have some sort of involvement in saving the day even if it is just some grunts.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
I always believe Gohan can turn Mystic like he does in the Budokai games. He went Mystic in Battle of Gods and had go to SSj in order to help Goku become a SSjG.GeeRod wrote:Gohan AGAIN using SSJ? Maybe is the same thing that happpens when BOG trailer was release...I hope.
How many times that happened in the tournaments.AjayLikesGaming wrote:Everyone has twins!
She/Her 
So wait, Yamamuro's character designer AND director? That's..disappointing.JulieYBM wrote:Of course new news comes while I'm out. Of course we're stuck with horrible CG background characters. Of course Yamamuro is still character designer.
olympia wrote: 21:28 why are we still talking about the emails
21:29 who gives a fuck
21:29 shut the fuck up trunks
21:29 * mean trump
And they'd be justified in doing so, as when the power gap is too big, all the weaker characters can do is consume senzu beans that could be better used on the actually relevant fighters (see the Cell Games). I'm not too focused on the power side of things; if anything I severely underplay just how enormous the power gaps between these characters are. Like it or not, power is what the whole series is based on, and it's how every plot advances. Except perhaps the plot of the first arc.Gyt Kaliba wrote:We are never going to agree on these things Random, because you are way too focused on the power balance of things. Like, way too focused. If the new material always worked the way you seem to personally envision it should, none of the new material would be entertaining in the least because it would instead focus on the characters telling the weaker characters off for even bothering to show up.
Hell, there seems to be a crapload of Freeza soldiers up there, there could turn out to be so many of them that collectively they're a threat, at least enough so of one that our "lesser" heroes have to handle it all while Goku and Vegeta tangle with Freeza.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Me too, but in BOG he wasn't fighting in SSJ. In this screenshot seems like he's getting ready to fight.I always believe Gohan can turn Mystic like he does in the Budokai games. He went Mystic in Battle of Gods and had go to SSj in order to help Goku become a SSjG.
