Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:20 pm

I'm not doubting that. He went to go see King Vegeta and was thrown a feast. I'm fairly certain Beerus could have met Freeza in a similar manner. But the specific scenario you came up with to set up Freeza as a candidate for the next Hakaishin changes too many things, specifically a LOT of recent things we just learned about last film. It would feel like really bad storytelling to retcon that much material (all from like the first 10 minutes of the movie) this quickly.

BOG has Beerus going to sleep because the Yogengyo foresaw a challenger for Beerus. It wasn't until he went to sleep that he had the dream about Super Saiyan God, so it shouldn't be a factor in anything before he wakes up during the film, where Freeza was already dead.

After waking up, Beerus contemplates killing Freeza. Doesn't really paint a picture that Freeza would be someone he'd be willing to bestow his powers to, even for the job.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:35 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I'm not doubting that. He went to go see King Vegeta and was thrown a feast. I'm fairly certain Beerus could have met Freeza in a similar manner. But the specific scenario you came up with to set up Freeza as a candidate for the next Hakaishin changes too many things, specifically a LOT of recent things we just learned about last film. It would feel like really bad storytelling to retcon that much material (all from like the first 10 minutes of the movie) this quickly.
I agree completely. This theory changes far too much and adds very little.
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That was added by the dub, wasn't it? Regardless, we know that Beerus knew of Freeza--he was one of the most influential people alive--but that doesn't indicate that he personally met him. I'd even say that the impersonal way Beerus spoke of him implies that he hasn't.
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Post by Herms » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:38 pm

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KentalSSJ6 wrote:"That upstart Freeza" - possibly implying he knew what Freeza was like.
That was added by the dub, wasn't it?
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:33 am

Wanted to see the difficulty level on "make a fake Fukkatsu no F screenshot". Turns out it depends on what exactly you're trying to do.
My goal was to try to de-Yamamuro-ize Vegeta's facial proportions and up the variation on the line thickness.
Here's what I came up with:
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It only made me miss line-thickness variation even more. T_T
Line-thickness variation is still possible with tablets; it just takes more time and I guess the time just isn't there when it comes to the movie.

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Post by Low Tone G » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:16 am

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ZazamPow wrote:Could Goku's new gi signify that he's been up to some new kind of training? He always gets a new insignia on his gi after training with a new master, and after training with Kami his outfit was changed entirely to accommodate the weighted clothes. Maybe the new gi signifies, uh... god training.
That's currently what most of us suspect; Goku and Vegeta training with Whis.
Why not Beerus? Personally I think that's more likely, Whis was polite but his actual interest in Earth and it's inhabitants started and ended with the food. Beerus was actually interested in Goku and Vegeta's potential and wanted to make them his arch rivals. As of BoG's ending, Whis would have no motive to train either of them.
The are two reasons for Whis to be the Martial Arts Master for Goku and Vegeta. The first is mentioned, Beerus sleeps very often. And Whis doesn't even sleep, I'm certain Goku asked Whis to train them, because he very well knows that Whis is the best in the Universe, and also the master of Beerus himself.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:18 am

Chuquita wrote:Wanted to see the difficulty level on "make a fake Fukkatsu no F screenshot". Turns out it depends on what exactly you're trying to do.
My goal was to try to de-Yamamuro-ize Vegeta's facial proportions and up the variation on the line thickness.
Here's what I came up with:
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It only made me miss line-thickness variation even more. T_T
Line-thickness variation is still possible with tablets; it just takes more time and I guess the time just isn't there when it comes to the movie.

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Post by ssjjanemba » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:47 am

Tomorrow's the day! Hope we get some good info about the movie.
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:59 pm

Re: My edit

Thickening the lines does make it not mesh with the thin lines of the background; I do realize this, just didn't have the time to construct a new background too. My main aim was to see if I could make the face look a little less Yamamuro-y. I'm not totally satisfied with what I did with the nose, but I like how the eyes came out.

Re: Jump Festa
Toei's posted some DB-themed photos from Jump Festa. One of them's got a sign for Fukkatsu no F.
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I don't know if that's near the panel stage or not.
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Post by Low Tone G » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:22 pm

Chuquita wrote:Re: My edit

Thickening the lines does make it not mesh with the thin lines of the background; I do realize this, just didn't have the time to construct a new background too. My main aim was to see if I could make the face look a little less Yamamuro-y. I'm not totally satisfied with what I did with the nose, but I like how the eyes came out.

Re: Jump Festa
Toei's posted some DB-themed photos from Jump Festa. One of them's got a sign for Fukkatsu no F.
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I don't know if that's near the panel stage or not.
https://twitter.com/toeianime_info/stat ... 88/photo/1
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:31 pm

I think the movie's poster's done a good job indirectly hyping the Jump Festa panel. I know I've got way more questions about this movie's plot at this stage than I did for BOG. I hope some of them get answered. I think the absence of Trunks and Goten is the biggest of mine.

What questions do you hope they answer at the panel?
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Post by Low Tone G » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:48 pm

Chuquita wrote:I think the movie's poster's done a good job indirectly hyping the Jump Festa panel. I know I've got way more questions about this movie's plot at this stage than I did for BOG. I hope some of them get answered. I think the absence of Trunks and Goten is the biggest of mine.

What questions do you hope they answer at the panel?
Yeah, the absence of Trunks and Goten really excites me too. I'm hoping a reveal of the origins of the new outfits for Goku and Vegeta, and about the signature. And a confirmation for Whis to be Goku's and Vegeta's master in this movie, and when did they travel to Beerus' Residence. More about Sorbet and Tagoma. And possibly why did Krillin shaved his head again.
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Post by Black Hawk » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:21 pm

I still hope some light will be shed on Freeza's and King Cold's race/species. Given that the two of them are mutants, I'd expect the others would look considerably different, perhaps smaller even than Freeza. The Freeza's race character designs in DBH and Xenoverse would make me doubt it, but I don't think Toriyama-sensei would be restricted by that at all.
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Post by orco05 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:26 pm

JamesOwnz wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:
Bonus Stage wrote:Fake or real?

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It's more than likely fake, as I believe. But I do not want Freeza to humiliate Vegeta once again just like he did in Namek saga, Vegeta should now have the turn to do it for Freeza. Did you noticed that in none of news Vegeta isn't damaged a bit, I really hope that might mean something.
Fake for sure.

If Vegeta gets his ass handed to him again in this film though... *sigh* it'll suck
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:34 pm

Goku, Vegeta, Tenshinhan, Roshi get new outfits.
Gohan gets new outfit and new look.
Now if Goten and Trunks appear, show me so coherence.

In the new Heroes promo video, Goten looks even smaller wtf...
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Chuquita wrote:Re: My edit

Thickening the lines does make it not mesh with the thin lines of the background; I do realize this, just didn't have the time to construct a new background too. My main aim was to see if I could make the face look a little less Yamamuro-y. I'm not totally satisfied with what I did with the nose, but I like how the eyes came out.

Re: Jump Festa
Toei's posted some DB-themed photos from Jump Festa. One of them's got a sign for Fukkatsu no F.
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I don't know if that's near the panel stage or not.
https://twitter.com/toeianime_info/stat ... 88/photo/1
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:01 pm

I still wonder why Roshi join to fight if he is too weak? It would make more sense to have #18 and Mr. Buu to join Goku and the others.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:08 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I still wonder why Roshi join to fight if he is too weak? It would make more sense to have #18 and Mr. Buu to join Goku and the others.
Let our favourite old man get some screetime. This will be the first time, that he actually does something in a DBZ movie.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:29 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:I still wonder why Roshi join to fight if he is too weak? It would make more sense to have #18 and Mr. Buu to join Goku and the others.
Let our favourite old man get some screetime. This will be the first time, that he actually does something in a DBZ movie.
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Post by JamesOwnz » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:46 pm

The movies are odd for the cast.

Doesn't Oolong have more appearances than Yamcha? and even had a bigger part in Battle of Gods.

Out of the original DBZ movies (The crappy ones) Vegeta only appeared in 5... (and did the same thing in every one.)

Roshi showed up a few more times didn't he? as part of the "Oh the gang is all together for a party/camping trip/space trip.

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Post by EmmaWinters » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:50 pm

I found Oolong's role in Battle of gods to be very refreshing. He rarely gets to do anything.
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Post by Attitudefan » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:11 pm

FatNagger69 wrote:I found Oolong's role in Battle of gods to be very refreshing. He rarely gets to do anything.
But.... Yamcha... :cry:

Yamcha isn't even in the trailer
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