DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:24 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Grey Buu altered the trajectory of the attack. When I talk about deflecting the attack, I mean it hits for a second when's it throw at him and then he quickly throws it back it back at the direction it came. The chocolate beam never touched Grey Buu. Big difference.
Then, and I feel that this needs to be said to everyone here, the actual fight that's shown doesn't mean anything. It's just a fun way of pitting two guys against each other. That's why you get fights that the people who make Death Battle say are total curbstomps, yet everyone fights evenly.

The stats at the beginning are what matter. The rest of the video is just for kicks.
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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:29 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:The stats at the beginning are what matter. The rest of the video is just for kicks.
Problem is when the stats are misinterpreted. I checked out the fanbase forum they have and practically everyone believes Deathstroke should have won and that the fight was BS. On the topic of Boo some find it BS while others don't, so this was less of a flame war. Stats matter yes, but they can also be altered. Most would probably be pissed if Tommy won his fight as he was so clearly upscaled.
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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:33 pm

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Kamiccolo9 wrote:The stats at the beginning are what matter. The rest of the video is just for kicks.
Problem is when the stats are misinterpreted. I checked out the fanbase forum they have and practically everyone believes Deathstroke should have won and that the fight was BS. On the topic of Boo some find it BS while others don't, so this was less of a flame war. Stats matter yes, but they can also be altered. Most would probably be pissed if Tommy won his fight as he was so clearly upscaled.
I'm talking in terms of the video itself. The stats that the guys decide on is what determines the end result. The fight itself doesn't follow those stats, only the end result. So using the actual fight as a complaint against their results doesn't work, since the stats have no bearing on the fight except for the end result.
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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:46 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:The stats at the beginning are what matter. The rest of the video is just for kicks.
Problem is when the stats are misinterpreted. I checked out the fanbase forum they have and practically everyone believes Deathstroke should have won and that the fight was BS. On the topic of Boo some find it BS while others don't, so this was less of a flame war. Stats matter yes, but they can also be altered. Most would probably be pissed if Tommy won his fight as he was so clearly upscaled.
I'm talking in terms of the video itself. The stats that the guys decide on is what determines the end result. The fight itself doesn't follow those stats, only the end result. So using the actual fight as a complaint against their results doesn't work, since the stats have no bearing on the fight except for the end result.
I agree the fights animated do not convey the final result or how it goes down....but they do convey the counters and all that as well as the advantages usually. They shouldn't be completely disregarded, but not taken fully as how things would go down either.
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Post by rereboy » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:17 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
Problem is when the stats are misinterpreted. I checked out the fanbase forum they have and practically everyone believes Deathstroke should have won and that the fight was BS.
Nah, deadpool is OP. He is pretty much unkillable since his regeneration is OP and he was even cursed by Thanos to not be able to die. And if that's not enough, his fourth wall skills and humor feats that almost reach toon force levels are more than enough to beat a character that is basically him but without such ridiculous advantages on his side.

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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:24 pm

rereboy wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
Problem is when the stats are misinterpreted. I checked out the fanbase forum they have and practically everyone believes Deathstroke should have won and that the fight was BS.
Nah, deadpool is OP. He is pretty much unkillable since his regeneration is OP and he was even cursed by Thanos to not be able to die. And if that's not enough, his fourth wall skills and humor feats that almost reach toon force levels are more than enough to beat a character that is basically him but without such ridiculous advantages on his side.
Take it up with them not me.
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Post by rereboy » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:34 pm

Hey, I'm just telling you some info. I don't know what arguments they used but the arguments I used just now are pretty conclusive, in my opinion. Deathstroke simply doesn't have aces up his sleeve capable of rivaling Deadpool's aces in the majority of cases.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:21 am

rereboy wrote:Hey, I'm just telling you some info. I don't know what arguments they used but the arguments I used just now are pretty conclusive, in my opinion. Deathstroke simply doesn't have aces up his sleeve capable of rivaling Deadpool's aces in the majority of cases.
I don't know them both well enough. I only know of Deadpools unfair can't die clause.

Speaking of which Boo=Freeza=Vegeta in destructive capacity apparently.
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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by The Monkey King » Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:37 pm

Lol this battle was actually a joke Buu was downplayed so much.

They ignored that the punch used to crack Popstar was only 200 megatons of force showing that celestial objects in the Kirbyverse are less durable than IRL ones and applying out physics to the kirbyverse would be pointless.
Kirby's speed without the warpstar isn't even hypersonic (he needs jet Kirby to achieve mach 5) Buu should have blitz stomped him in an instant.
According to Death Battles own calculations SSJ2 Goku's maximum output is roughly 1 sextillion megatons, since SSJ2 Goku = Majin Vegeta according to Death Battle that's what Vegeta's maximum output should be the same and Fat Buu regenerated from that. There is nothing in Kirby's arsenal that comes even close to 1 sextillion megatons of force.
Also Kirby's 'crazy' strength feat where he threw a 3.5 ton monster at mach 73 speeds, is comparable to Tao Pai Pai's feat where he threw a roughly 1 ton pillar at mach 15 speeds. So let's say that this makes Kirby 20 times stronger than Tao, not bad but Buu is literally billions if not trillions of times stronger than Tao. So Kirby's feat isn't all than impressive.
Also Buu is ass durable as he wants to be, he can make himself tough enough so bullets bouce off him like any other Z-fighter.
And so what if Kirby 'tanked' a planet sized explosion, any Cell saga character could tank the explosion of Namek, do they beat Buu aswell?
Also the reason Kid Buu attempted to tank the spirit bomb instead of teleporting away from it is because he was certain he could deflect it. He was right but he didn't forsee Goku getting his power back.
Not to mention Death Battles hypothetical Buu saga SSJ4 Goku would be 2.5X faster than light, Super Buu should be comparable if not stronger than him, but he wasn't used. Death Battle had no problem using powerscaling for the white power ranger, but they refuse to use it for DBZ characters.
Buu easily could've absorbed Kirby or turned him into chocolate.

All in all it's like this Death Battle was made to give DBZ fans the middle finger. Buu should've stomped Kirby with ease.

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Post by Super Sonic » Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:38 pm

Thought this was funny. Was rooting for Kirby as he's a good guy. Let's face it, kinda root for hero more than a villain.

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mysticboy wrote:This is the third time they've undercut DB characters. I think it's best they'd just stop using DBZ characters until they realize that power-scaling is the best way to judge a DBZ character's power, not just by feats.
I think using feats is the only way to judge DBZ characters. Screw Attack does their best on showing off characters to people who are not familiar with each character. How would you explain how powerful Buu is without saying that he is 1000X stronger then Freeza and Cell to someone who never read or watch the series.
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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by mysticboy » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:09 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think using feats is the only way to judge DBZ characters. Screw Attack does their best on showing off characters to people who are not familiar with each character. How would you explain how powerful Buu is without saying that he is 1000X stronger then Freeza and Cell to someone who never read or watch the series.
But the thing is, they're not using feats of others characters and then power-scaling like the rest of us do though. They're using spoon-fed, basic comic book logic here. The talk as though Buu is at best a mere planet buster, putting on the same level as Saiyan Arc Vegeta, when in actuality, Buu's at bare minimum a multi-solar system buster.

Using comic book logic, Cell is weaker than Saiyan Arc Goku.

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Post by Michelle91 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:50 pm

If they power scale DBZ characters then they would have power scale other characters. They never power scale other characters in their videos. Superman has fought and won characters much stronger then him that has better feats then him.
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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:57 pm

mysticboy wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:I think using feats is the only way to judge DBZ characters. Screw Attack does their best on showing off characters to people who are not familiar with each character. How would you explain how powerful Buu is without saying that he is 1000X stronger then Freeza and Cell to someone who never read or watch the series.
But the thing is, they're not using feats of others characters and then power-scaling like the rest of us do though. They're using spoon-fed, basic comic book logic here. The talk as though Buu is at best a mere planet buster, putting on the same level as Saiyan Arc Vegeta, when in actuality, Buu's at bare minimum a multi-solar system buster.

Using comic book logic, Cell is weaker than Saiyan Arc Goku.
What's wrong with using comic book logic for a comic book?
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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by The Monkey King » Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:56 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:If they power scale DBZ characters then they would have power scale other characters. They never power scale other characters in their videos. Superman has fought and won characters much stronger then him that has better feats then him.
They happily powerscaled for the White Power Ranger.

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Post by Michelle91 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:59 pm

mysticboy wrote:But the thing is, they're not using feats of others characters and then power-scaling like the rest of us do though. They're using spoon-fed, basic comic book logic here. The talk as though Buu is at best a mere planet buster, putting on the same level as Saiyan Arc Vegeta, when in actuality, Buu's at bare minimum a multi-solar system buster.

Using comic book logic, Cell is weaker than Saiyan Arc Goku.
I think Screw Attack fits better with feats only. Showing feats only makes it easier to show off character's power to people who are not familiar to either franchises as I mention before. Screw Attack does their characters showings in a more professorial and realistic way to do a presentation on a character. How would you explain someone like Cell or Buu to someone who never seen or watch the show without using ABC logic. It would be like writing a exam paper for a college writing class. Also it would be unfair to only power scale DBZ characters if they don't power scale other characters from other series.
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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by mysticboy » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:37 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:snip
Why did they powerscale the White Ranger like The Monkey King said?

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:28 am

I have to ask, why do people care so much about who these guys make the winners in their fights? Despite their fancy graphics, animation, and popularity, it's no more official than any random poster on a forum saying who they think would win.
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Post by rereboy » Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:54 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:
mysticboy wrote:This is the third time they've undercut DB characters. I think it's best they'd just stop using DBZ characters until they realize that power-scaling is the best way to judge a DBZ character's power, not just by feats.
I think using feats is the only way to judge DBZ characters. Screw Attack does their best on showing off characters to people who are not familiar with each character. How would you explain how powerful Buu is without saying that he is 1000X stronger then Freeza and Cell to someone who never read or watch the series.
Its the worst way to judge.

The most impressive measurable strengh feat in dragon ball is tao pai pai' thrown pillar, the most impressive measurable speed feat is son goku' crossing snake way in little more than a day and the most impressive measurable destruction feat is freeza's easy destruction of a planet while in his first form.

All these feats are done by characters millions of times weaker than fighters at the end of the series. Se either we use power scaling or we grossly misrepresent how powerful they are supposed to be.

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Re: DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!

Post by Puto » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:17 am

How do we know for a fact that they're ‘millions of times stronger’?

Obviously Boo is stronger than Freeza. But what proof do we have to make that ‘millions’?
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