DEATH BATTLE: Majin Boo vs Kirby!
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Piccolo never does anything regarding the moon that Roshi didn't do first. Don't really know why you always bring up Piccolo when Roshi did the same first. Anyway, its doubtful that Toriyama intended for the busting of moon to be as impressive as it would have been in the real world in terms of power, given the fact that fighters stronger that Roshi seem to cap at city busting or island busting (Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo Jr). Its inconsistent, which is why I tend to not use it as an argument.
If Freeza had just detonated the core, the planet would take a while to explode like Namek. Since he didn't want any Saiyan to escape, that is very doubtful. And if we allow stuff outside of the manga, like the guys at screwattack probably did, then we can confirm that the busting of planet Vegeta was pretty much instant. In any case, planet busting just refers to the ability to destroy a planet, not "destroy a planet in a very specific manner otherwise it doesn't count".
If Freeza had just detonated the core, the planet would take a while to explode like Namek. Since he didn't want any Saiyan to escape, that is very doubtful. And if we allow stuff outside of the manga, like the guys at screwattack probably did, then we can confirm that the busting of planet Vegeta was pretty much instant. In any case, planet busting just refers to the ability to destroy a planet, not "destroy a planet in a very specific manner otherwise it doesn't count".
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Because Piccolo did it effortlessly with one attack, while Roshi had to transform and use a special technique. There's nothing inconsistent about it. Roshi can't use the moon busting Kamehameha because his buff form is impractical in combat. Piccolo, on the other hand, could casually fire off a planet busting attack to overkill the moon when he needed to stop Gohan. And that's not merely an outlier, it's vital to the plot.rereboy wrote:Piccolo never does anything regarding the moon that Roshi didn't do first. Don't really know why you always bring up Piccolo when Roshi did the same first. Anyway, its doubtful that Toriyama intended for the busting of moon to be as impressive as it would have been in the real world in terms of power, given the fact that fighters stronger that Roshi seem to cap at city busting or island busting (Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo Jr). Its inconsistent, which is why I tend to not use it as an argument.
If Freeza had just detonated the core, the planet would take a while to explode like Namek. Since he didn't want any Saiyan to escape, that is very doubtful. And if we allow stuff outside of the manga, like the guys at screwattack probably did, then we can confirm that the busting of planet Vegeta was pretty much instant. In any case, planet busting just refers to the ability to destroy a planet, not "destroy a planet in a very specific manner otherwise it doesn't count".
So? They could have just had no ships to escape, so five minutes of warning wouldn't help them. Or, Freeza could have made it detonate quicker. I'm not saying he didn't destroy the planet 'conventionally', I'm just saying that we don't know if he did, so from a pure, on-panel, nitpick point of view, it wasn't as impressive as Piccolo with a battle power of 408 casually firing off an Earth-busting attack with one arm to overkill the moon.
If we're allowed to consider things outside the manga, then we see Pure Buu destroying stars. So that stuff about Freeza's planet-busting being the most impressive destructive feat would still be wrong. Not that it is the most impressive destructive feat even in the manga, what with Pure Buu's small star level ki blast on Earth...
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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How do you know that the blast used to destroy the Earth was ‘star level’ by just looking at the explosion's art? That doesn't even begin to make sense!
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Same way some nerds measured the power of the Death Star. By looking at the time frame and how the debris were scattered.Puto wrote:How do you know that the blast used to destroy the Earth was ‘star level’ by just looking at the explosion's art? That doesn't even begin to make sense!
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19074
Since they were counting the anime anyway, they could have also looked at this:
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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I wrote a response to RandomGuy86, but its simply not worth it. I've already stated my opinion on these matters. Stating how I disagree with some of what RandomGuy86 said in these last posts will not have any useful effect.
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We're talking about Death Battle so you have to play by their rules. And they just take things like this at face value. If it's an explosion then it's an explosion, measure it and find out the force, etc.rereboy wrote:I wrote a response to RandomGuy86, but its simply not worth it. I've already stated my opinion on these matters. Stating how I disagree with some of what RandomGuy86 said in these last posts will not have any useful effect.
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This ‘many times’ is not necessarily the Kaiōken multiplier—particularly because he said ‘many times greater’ in this instance at a time when he was only using Kaiōken x2. 2 is not ‘many times’.rereboy wrote:Goku: “You control all the ki in your body…momentarily amplifying it. If you get it right, your power, speed, destructive force, and defensive force all become many times greater…”
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Missed a lot of what was said, but given Kirby was a good guy kinda gave him an advantage I think.
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I'll say it again. Fan Calcs are taken with a grain of salt. I highly doubt Toriyama or the animation team tried to accurately portray anything more than "Planet go BOOOM!". No one thought "Hm...how to make this look like a star or solar system bust....hmmm."
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Just taking it at face value would make them even stronger since Cell said he was capable of busting the solar system. Now imagine Buu.dbzfan7 wrote:I'll say it again. Fan Calcs are taken with a grain of salt. I highly doubt Toriyama or the animation team tried to accurately portray anything more than "Planet go BOOOM!". No one thought "Hm...how to make this look like a star or solar system bust....hmmm."
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Really...? I really doubt that you actually believe what you are saying, honestly... Its obvious that Goku is talking about Kaioken in general in that sentence. How much it will multiply depends on the intensity of the technique (x2, x3, x4, and so on). If he said that Kaioken multiplied it by two, it would give off the impression that it can't multiply it by more than two, which is obviously not true. And if you read it in context with the other quotes I put and the rest of the manga, it becomes pretty clear.Puto wrote:This ‘many times’ is not necessarily the Kaiōken multiplier—particularly because he said ‘many times greater’ in this instance at a time when he was only using Kaiōken x2. 2 is not ‘many times’.rereboy wrote:Goku: “You control all the ki in your body…momentarily amplifying it. If you get it right, your power, speed, destructive force, and defensive force all become many times greater…”
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I just have a hard time believing that power levels would be a 1:1 with how much destruction you can cause. With Saiyan-arc Vegeta being capable of destroying a planet, if you scaled that, it would make Boo capable of blowing up the universe in one shot or something.
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Why...? Even going by real world logic, the Sun has 330.000 times the mass of Earth. If a BP of 18.000 is required to destroy Earth, a BP of 5.940.000.000 is required to destroy the Sun going by real world logic. And the Sun is just an average size star.Puto wrote:I just have a hard time believing that power levels would be a 1:1 with how much destruction you can cause. With Saiyan-arc Vegeta being capable of destroying a planet, if you scaled that, it would make Boo capable of blowing up the universe in one shot or something.
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Actually it's even worse than that... as I read somewhere that it would take over a billion times the amount of energy required to destroy the earth to destroy the sun.
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Called it right away in the beginning and I still don't know who Kirby is (its not like I care though).
I didn't even need to watch the video. These things just get popular too quickly.
By the way things are going, I don't know how they didn't make Vegeta lose agaisnt Shadow. Seems like another video to make some DBZ fans mad.
If they put Yamcha vs Magikarp, Yamcha somehow would lose too. Nothing to do here.
People asking for Goku vs Superman rematch are dumb. Its not like I think Superman is stronger but this is still fanmade, not official.
GT is more canon than this.
I didn't even need to watch the video. These things just get popular too quickly.
By the way things are going, I don't know how they didn't make Vegeta lose agaisnt Shadow. Seems like another video to make some DBZ fans mad.
If they put Yamcha vs Magikarp, Yamcha somehow would lose too. Nothing to do here.
People asking for Goku vs Superman rematch are dumb. Its not like I think Superman is stronger but this is still fanmade, not official.
GT is more canon than this.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
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Kirby is the hero of a series of video games by Nintendo. He first appeared in Kirby's Dreamland on Game Boy in 1992. His next game Kirby's Adventure on NES is what made him pink as he's been since then and introduced his now trademark move of sucking up enemies and copying their abilities. He's been in many games on Nintendo consoles since then. He also had his own anime series called Kirby! Right Back at Ya! that aired on Fox in the US and was dubbed by 4Kids (though they kept Kirby undubbed). He also has been in every Smash Bros game.FortuneSSJ wrote:Called it right away in the beginning and I still don't know who Kirby is (its not like I care though).
I didn't even need to watch the video. These things just get popular too quickly.
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What are those planets after Earth?rereboy wrote:Relevant gif:
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Known stars in order of size. The first is our sun. I don't know the designations of the others by heart but they basically show us how Earth is nothing but a pea.
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Thank you, Mr. Wikipedia.Super Sonic wrote:Kirby is the hero of a series of video games by Nintendo. He first appeared in Kirby's Dreamland on Game Boy in 1992. His next game Kirby's Adventure on NES is what made him pink as he's been since then and introduced his now trademark move of sucking up enemies and copying their abilities. He's been in many games on Nintendo consoles since then. He also had his own anime series called Kirby! Right Back at Ya! that aired on Fox in the US and was dubbed by 4Kids (though they kept Kirby undubbed). He also has been in every Smash Bros game.FortuneSSJ wrote:Called it right away in the beginning and I still don't know who Kirby is (its not like I care though).
I didn't even need to watch the video. These things just get popular too quickly.
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