How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

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How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:37 am

Is it a huge gap or is it similar to the gap between Goku and Vegeta?

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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by dario03 » Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:12 am

Goku SSG - 6 (goes up rapidly)
Beerus - 10
Whis - 15

I suppose if Beerus’ strength is a 10, [Super Saiyan] God would be right about 6. Only, Saiyans rapidly increase in strength as they fight against strong opponents, so the longer they fought, the more that gap would shrink, and it might even be possible for them to eventually turn the tables. Incidentally, I guess Whis would be about a 15.
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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by Galan007 » Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:03 pm

The difference between SSJG Goku and Beerus is nearly proportional to the difference between Beerus and Whis.

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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:13 pm

dario03 wrote:Goku SSG - 6 (goes up rapidly)
The 6 is the max power he fought with during their battle, as Beerus was capable of defeating him with 70% of his power.
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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by Angelus » Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:19 pm

Well, that was quick! AT says it then, it's only a 1.5 difference.

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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by Pantalones » Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:56 am

I wouldn't say "only"... it may not seem like that much if you're falling into the trap of looking at it in terms of ratios and "multipliers," but considering just how absurdly powerful these guys are... in terms of raw numbers that 50% gap would end up equaling many many billions.

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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by dario03 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:02 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
dario03 wrote:Goku SSG - 6 (goes up rapidly)
The 6 is the max power he fought with during their battle, as Beerus was capable of defeating him with 70% of his power.
Yeah but the goes up rapidly was more so talking about the whole "Only, Saiyans rapidly increase in strength as they fight against strong opponents, so the longer they fought, the more that gap would shrink, and it might even be possible for them to eventually turn the tables." thing.

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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by CatouttaHell » Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:54 am

Pantalones wrote:I wouldn't say "only"... it may not seem like that much if you're falling into the trap of looking at it in terms of ratios and "multipliers," but considering just how absurdly powerful these guys are... in terms of raw numbers that 50% gap would end up equaling many many billions.
Nothing implies there's a difference between...

Person 1 - 1
Person 2 - 1.5

and

Person 1 - 1,000,000,000
Person 2 - 1,500,000,000

The guidebook numbers put Raditz at 1,500 and he's in rivaling range of a 1,200 Saibaimen. 150,000,000 Goku is also considered in rivaling range of 120,000,000 Freeza by that same source.
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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:51 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
dario03 wrote:Goku SSG - 6 (goes up rapidly)
The 6 is the max power he fought with during their battle, as Beerus was capable of defeating him with 70% of his power.
I think about it more like an average power of Goku in the whole fight agaisnt Beerus. I'd think Goku final attack absorbtion would put him a very little above 70% Beerus otherwise that attack would have killed him.
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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by singsing » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:17 pm

Low Tone G wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
dario03 wrote:Goku SSG - 6 (goes up rapidly)
The 6 is the max power he fought with during their battle, as Beerus was capable of defeating him with 70% of his power.
I think about it more like an average power of Goku in the whole fight agaisnt Beerus. I'd think Goku final attack absorbtion would put him a very little above 70% Beerus otherwise that attack would have killed him.
Not necessarily. Plenty of people in the series have tanked attacks stronger than they were.
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Pantalones wrote:I wouldn't say "only"... it may not seem like that much if you're falling into the trap of looking at it in terms of ratios and "multipliers," but considering just how absurdly powerful these guys are... in terms of raw numbers that 50% gap would end up equaling many many billions.
Nothing implies there's a difference between...

Person 1 - 1
Person 2 - 1.5

and

Person 1 - 1,000,000,000
Person 2 - 1,500,000,000

The guidebook numbers put Raditz at 1,500 and he's in rivaling range of a 1,200 Saibaimen. 150,000,000 Goku is also considered in rivaling range of 120,000,000 Freeza by that same source.
Except, oh I don't know, 18000 Vegeta still kicking 16000 Goku's butt, or 24000 Vegeta one shotting Cui, Dodoria, and then getting rekt by Zarbon transformed.

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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:27 pm

singsing wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:I think about it more like an average power of Goku in the whole fight agaisnt Beerus. I'd think Goku final attack absorbtion would put him a very little above 70% Beerus otherwise that attack would have killed him.
Not necessarily. Plenty of people in the series have tanked attacks stronger than they were.
I think to absorb something it's something more than to tank an attack...
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Re: How much more powerful is Whis in comparison to Beerus?

Post by singsing » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:42 pm

And why is that?

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