Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by NitroEX » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:10 pm

I only just noticed they coloured in his eyes in that new drawing.

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Post by Ajay » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:20 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:I just think that, focusing too heavily on these ultimately sucks the fun out of it. They're fun, different, and I can't wait to see them utilized in the movie proper.
Definitely agree with this.

I dislike them, I've made my little comment about them but I see no point in focusing on them. Their proportions have almost no relevance to the movie so we shouldn't really worry.

Even the early SSJ God artwork was far skinnier and less defined than what was in the film. It shouldn't be an issue.

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Post by EA575 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:30 pm

The people complaining how Toriyama's artstyle has changed from buff and muscular to skinny and anorexic must have never read JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

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Post by Marco Polo » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:36 pm

NitroEX wrote:I only just noticed they coloured in his eyes in that new drawing.
Ooh good catch! I didn't even notice it.

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:55 pm

Anyone have any theories as to where 18 and Buu are?
I can reconcile Trunks and Goten not being there if they're going to surprise us with their teenage selves, but 18 and Buu not being there I can't figure out.
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Post by El Diabeetus » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:16 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
NitroEX wrote:I only just noticed they coloured in his eyes in that new drawing.
Ooh good catch! I didn't even notice it.
Hasn't Toriyama always colored in Kuririn's eyes and the anime usually doesn't?

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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:29 pm

EA575 wrote:The people complaining how Toriyama's artstyle has changed from buff and muscular to skinny and anorexic must have never read JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
Jeez what happened to Johnathon Joestar :wtf:. Is the goal to get closer to Bishonen?
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Post by Ajay » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:44 pm

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EA575 wrote:The people complaining how Toriyama's artstyle has changed from buff and muscular to skinny and anorexic must have never read JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
Jeez what happened to Johnathon Joestar :wtf:. Is the goal to get closer to Bishonen?
Araki is just drawing them in the style of his recent Jojos. They look straight out of Jojolion.
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Post by medama_oyaji » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:47 pm

While I agree that it would be jarring to see the full-length feature in Toriyama's current style, I think it would be fun if they made a short with it.

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Post by cesarcoronel07 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:07 pm

Man, a lot of people over at Youtube are complaining that Krillin is a cop and whatnot. I really don't see anything wrong or weird about it I mean the guy has to support his family and it has been peaceful on Earth for several years soooo...........

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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:51 pm

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EA575 wrote:The people complaining how Toriyama's artstyle has changed from buff and muscular to skinny and anorexic must have never read JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
Jeez what happened to Johnathon Joestar :wtf:. Is the goal to get closer to Bishonen?
Araki is just drawing them in the style of his recent Jojos. They look straight out of Jojolion.
Soon the evil plan of turning every manga and anime into Bishonen style will be complete.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:17 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Also, I know it won't happen since Kuririn has...personal...reference of what a bad idea it would be, and he's smarter than that...but what I wouldn't give for him to try and give Freeza a parking ticket.
Save that for a Ryo-san (Kochikame) cameo? :wink:
I was hoping someone would get that reference. :mrgreen:

And yowza at that JoJo's art...to me that's far more jarring than anything Toriyama's new style compared to his old one could bring up. Whoa. :shock: At any rate though, I can't say I feel too strongly one way or the other about his change in art style. It is what it is, and I can still tell that it's him, so it's all good. Would I want a ton more actual story material from him drawn in that style? Hard to say. But just little things every so often like Jaco, or even just designs like what we're getting here? They serve perfectly well enough for that. And besides, as has already been pointed out by Kaiser and a few others, the art isn't going to look exactly like this in the movie anyway. They'll adapt Toriyama's designs to match a bit more the look that the anime goes for.
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Post by shinmaru » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:28 pm

EA575 wrote:The people complaining how Toriyama's artstyle has changed from buff and muscular to skinny and anorexic must have never read JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
The art changed a lot, but still love the series.
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Post by singsing » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:40 pm

shinmaru wrote:
EA575 wrote:The people complaining how Toriyama's artstyle has changed from buff and muscular to skinny and anorexic must have never read JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
They turned gay lol. But still love the series.
Is there really no other way you can state your opinion?

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Post by Saiga » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:43 pm

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And yowza at that JoJo's art...to me that's far more jarring than anything Toriyama's new style compared to his old one could bring up. Whoa. :shock: At any rate though, I can't say I feel too strongly one way or the other about his change in art style. It is what it is, and I can still tell that it's him, so it's all good. Would I want a ton more actual story material from him drawn in that style? Hard to say. But just little things every so often like Jaco, or even just designs like what we're getting here? They serve perfectly well enough for that. And besides, as has already been pointed out by Kaiser and a few others, the art isn't going to look exactly like this in the movie anyway. They'll adapt Toriyama's designs to match a bit more the look that the anime goes for.
I'm a bit surprised you can recognise Jonathon, I sure as hell can't. It doesn't help that new Jonathon and Joseph don't have the differences between them that they used to, and Jonathon now wears Joseph's headband which just makes it confusing as hell. I have no problem with Araki changing his style for new parts, because they're new characters and I can accept that these new guys aren't super buff men just fine. But when it is applied to other characters, I just can't. The difference is too large, it's not even art style, they are completely different designs. The two Jonathons in those pictures simply don't have the same body.

Wait... were you talking about Kuririn? If so now I feel silly.

Anyway, I don't really care about Toriyama's designs. I don't like this art style or how skinny everything is, but Gohan looked quite good despite that and Kuririn's outfit and vehicle are more important than his frame here. I wouldn't want to see this style used in an actual movie or manga though, that's for sure.
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Post by LordCrumb » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:27 pm

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Sooooo, he's a meter maid?

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I know a lot of promotional drawings are never like the actual animated show, but I got bad feeling about this..

I wasn't too pleased with some of the character re-designs in Battle of Gods... but this... this looks horrible!

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Post by KaiserNeko » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:31 pm

LordCrumb wrote:
SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Sooooo, he's a meter maid?

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I know a lot of promotional drawings are never like the actual animated show, but I got bad feeling about this..

I wasn't too pleased with some of the character re-designs in Battle of Gods... but this... this looks horrible!
It looks cute and quirky, and as said before: He will be completely anatomically proportional to the series proper. This is just a quick character design sheet.

Why is anyone getting all that worked up about this? It's so utterly preliminary. I bet it'll be hilarious in the movie.
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:32 pm

I'm waiting to see Vegeta's and Gokû's. The "Where's his muscles?" will be most noticeable on Vegeta due to how tight his armor is. :3 I can't help being curious about it.
*Isn't upset, but instead entertained.*

I wonder if they'll release one a week or more like one a month.
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Post by Herms » Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:32 am

I don't care too much one way or the other when it comes to skinny characters vs muscular (especially since the series establishes that many of these characters can flat-out alter their muscle mass at will), but many of the character design drawings Toriyama made for BoG and is making now for this film do strike me as looking a bit overly simplistic. Rather than anything inherently wrong with his current art style though, I think it's more a matter of Toriyama simply not putting too much time or effort into them...which obviously isn't much of a good thing, but at least doesn't change the fact that Toriyama's still perfectly capable of putting out some great artwork when he feels like it. The big poster he did for BoG featuring all the movie's characters together in one crowd shot looked pretty fantastic in my opinion, while the individual character design images he did were a bit lackluster. Even though it's pretty much the same group of characters, done in the same new skinny style, comparing the two is like night and day, because the amount of care and detail put in really determines whether that art style comes off or not. Even with these new Kuririn images, I think the two pictures of him as a cop are pretty solid (the bike design in particular is a classic Toriyama machine), but the image on the right where it's him in his old school Turtle School uniform looks rather slapdash. There's no shading or anything, the proportions seem a bit off, and the whole thing just doesn't look very solid. And since it's right by the two better-looking cop images, it seems to make them look worse by association. It's like the one house with the unkempt lawn dragging down retail values. Sort of. At any rate, all these images are just made to determine the look of the characters, rather than hold up as works of art in their own right, so I guess it doesn't pay to be too critical. But at the same time, if you go back and look at the design images Toriyama did for the old DBZ movies (like his drawings of Coola, the Tree of Might, etc), he definitely seems to have put more effort into those. So...I don't know...I'm sure there's a moral in here somewhere.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:36 am

The moral is that Cooler is cooler than Krillin, because Toriyama's sketches of Cooler don't look like crap.
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