Would Cell be obedient to Dr. Gero?

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Would Cell be obedient to Dr. Gero?

Post by Angelus » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:51 pm

Had Dr. Gero been alive during Cell's completion.

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Post by hyperbeing1 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:31 am

I would not necessarily say cell was obedient to him. it is just that he was given info to obtain great power and he decided to take it. I can curious to see what others have to say here about this it will be interesting.

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Re: Would Cell be obedient to Dr. Gero?

Post by Kakacarrottop » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:37 am

I don't think so. He'd pretty much end up killing Gero like the others. He is basically the same as the other Androids when it comes to intelligence and all that, the only difference is Androids like 17 & 18 used to be humans, while he is completely artificial.
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Re: Would Cell be obedient to Dr. Gero?

Post by Darkprince410 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:48 pm

While he did speak rather favorably of Gero whenever he talked about his "father", I highly doubt that Cell would actually follow orders from him if he were given any. Cell considers himself the perfect being, and it would seem unlikely that he would take orders from anyone he considered less than perfect.

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Post by Marco Polo » Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:53 pm

Clearly Cell would not be obedient to Dr. Gero. However, I could see him sparing him. He's not deranged like the original 17 and 18, and he did spare Mr. Satan. I think he would just do whatever he wants while not outright killing Dr. Gero. Maybe he leaves Gero on a whim, maybe Gero can follow him around, but Gero wouldn't get killed unless he really, really makes himself an active nuisance to Cell.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:55 pm

^He didn't kill Mr. Satan because he considered him unworthy.

As for obeying Gero.... maybe, until he becomes perfect and starts testing his powers instead of killing Goku.
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Post by Xeogran » Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:56 pm

I'm on the opposide side of this argument. Not to mention he tried to convince C18 to let her get absorbed while praising their creator and stating that they would complete his will (using C17's voice).

People in this topic are acting like Dr. Gero was some incompetent fool and heck, even comparing him to Mr. Satan :evil:
He was the most intelligent human on Earth, being able to create the perfect being like that. I do really believe that Gero would make a great assistance to Cell. Because as smart as Cell is, I don't think that he would be capable of working well in the scientific-departament.

And a head-canon of mine is simple, maybe if Perfect Cell got bored of everything, he could ask the doctor to create another being similar to him so he would have something to do.

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Post by Nightzus » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:28 pm

Nightstar1994 wrote:I'm on the opposide side of this argument. Not to mention he tried to convince C18 to let her get absorbed while praising their creator and stating that they would complete his will (using C17's voice).
I don't think him trying to convince C18 actually means anything relevant. It could also be that he tried to convince her and thought she was faithful to Gero and so decided to go with this.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:03 pm

I would imagine Cell would respect Gero and be loyal to him similar how Freeza is to King Cold. Gero would allow Cell to become Perfect in order to kill Goku.
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Post by Saiga » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:42 pm

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Nightstar1994 wrote:I'm on the opposide side of this argument. Not to mention he tried to convince C18 to let her get absorbed while praising their creator and stating that they would complete his will (using C17's voice).
I don't think him trying to convince C18 actually means anything relevant. It could also be that he tried to convince her and thought she was faithful to Gero and so decided to go with this.
I don't know, to me that implies he didn't consider that she would have anything against Gero. I think that's enough to say he wouldn't go against Gero himself.
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Post by MarCas92 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:39 pm

I don't know about obedient. But it's clear Cell at least has respect towards Gero. I imagine he would keep him around. Almost like a lackey, him being the muscle and Gero being the brains.
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Post by Kakacarrottop » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:41 pm

I'm sure Cell was grateful towards Gero simply because he gave him life, 17 and 18 on the other hand held resentment towards him since they used to be humans. I always assumed 17 and 18 were kidnapped by Gero and turned into androids against their will.
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Re: Would Cell be obedient to Dr. Gero?

Post by Pantalones » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:38 pm

Good question. I'm guessing he wouldn't be in a hurry to kill Gero like #17 and #18 were, at least, going by how highly he talks about Gero here and there... maybe if Gero started getting in his way (like pestering him to hurry up and go kill Goku rather than doing the Cell Games or something) he might start considering it, but it's entirely possible that he'd just ignore Gero in that case rather than feeling the need to get rid of him.

Semi-related question: would using the android shutdown controller against Perfect Cell, turning off the components of #17 and #18 that have been absorbed into him, reduce his power back to Imperfect Cell levels or at least have some negative impact on Cell as a whole? I imagine he wouldn't "go to sleep" like the androids themselves did, but I have to wonder if it might have some effect on him since he gets such a huge boost in power from absorbing them both.
I always assumed 17 and 18 were kidnapped by Gero and turned into androids against their will.
This seems to be pretty heavily implied, even if it's not outright stated anywhere.

I mean, they seem to have no memory at all of their previous lives (never using their original names even long after Gero's gone, for example) and basically had "new" lives following the Cell saga rather than even making an attempt to "go home" (as far as we see)... would a complete memory-wipe be necessary if they voluntarily signed up for Gero's "remodeling" of their bodies and knew what they were getting into ahead of time? And we know they were apparently gang members or delinquents of some sort before Gero ended up turning them into #17 and #18... doesn't seem likely that people like that would randomly go out to a lab in the mountains in the middle of nowhere and volunteer for some mad scientist's project of their own free will.
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Post by Jackal puFF » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:42 pm

Hmm I don't know if Cell would exactly take orders from Gero.. I could see him easily turning on him if annoyed. Maybe he would kill Dr. Gero just to make sure he wouldn't have some kind of back up plan to get rid of him like he did for 17 and 18. If you know what I mean.

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Re: Would Cell be obedient to Dr. Gero?

Post by TheLegend23 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:14 am

Nope I dont believe Cell would have listen to Dr. Gero at all. Maybe in his imperfect form, but most def not in his perfect form. He was way beyond taking orders from anybody.

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Post by flashback0180 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:08 am

I would see his relationship being like Bibidi and Buu, cell would tolerate the doctors existence but kill him if he gets pissed.

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Re: Would Cell be obedient to Dr. Gero?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:41 am

The most likely conclusion of Cell and Gero's relationship:
Nah, but seriously. Cell might respect Gero for creating him, but I highly doubt he'd actually listen to the old fart. Perfect Cell is extremely bland, but I think I know enough about his personality to at least determine that he wouldn't take kindly to anyone telling him what to do. Then again, maybe he and Gero wouldn't have had a problem with each other. I mean, even though he was being an idiot about it, he still did intend to kill Goku eventually. Oh wait, he said he'd also blow up the planet, didn't he? I can't see that being compatible with Gero's goals.
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Post by ZazamPow » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:37 pm

As said, it's implied if not directly mentioned that Cell held some degree of respect or even admiration towards Gero. Cell considered himself the perfect being so he wasn't about to take orders from anyone, but if a single other organism was even worthy of his company, it would be the guy capable of creating the perfect being. I don't think Cell would really go out of his way to murder Gero like 17 and 18 did, not unless Gero was being an extreme nuisance to him and actually trying to order him around, but Gero would probably be much too intelligent to anger Cell. Gero wouldn't be his master, but I can see them being partners, if not having an outright father-son relationship. This is actually how I would have preferred the arc to go, Gero could have been a great rival to Goku, the idea of a villain rivaling Goku's strength through his intelligence is fascinating, it would have been a breath of fresh air for the series. Instead Gero was killed rather early and anticlimactically, but I digress.

The only variable I see is what would Cell have done after the Cell Games? His only purpose in life was to fight and relish in destruction; he planned on destroying the Earth, but would he possibly have spared the planet if Dr. Gero asked him to? Or maybe Gero would have been forced to follow Cell into space, assuming he even could?
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Post by mAcChaos » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:39 pm

I want to say Gero wouldn't make himself an extreme nuisance to Cell and avoid getting killed.

But he did just that to 17 and 18, so...
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Post by ZazamPow » Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:18 pm

mAcChaos wrote:I want to say Gero wouldn't make himself an extreme nuisance to Cell and avoid getting killed.

But he did just that to 17 and 18, so...
To be fair, he was in a very stressful situation. His carefully laid plans had been ruined and he stood no chance against the Z-Fighters, who were literally knocking on his door at that very moment. So I can forgive the guy for getting anxious and ordering them around a bit too strongly, but even then, they were going to kill him regardless so maybe he didn't say anything that offended them anyway. I imagine that if he were hanging with Cell, who unlike the Androids, he knows doesn't hate him, he would be a bit more tactical with his wording.
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