Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Gyt Kaliba]

It's got to be one of the two reasons, no matter what, I would think. The fact that Goten and Trunks haven't even been shown or mentioned at all has to be for some reason, it can't just be...well, just because.

Really, really hoping it's updated designs for them being older.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I wonder how Freeza will be defeated... From the promotional pictures, it looks like Goku isn't stronger than him, and I doubt Vegeta will be much stronger than him. I doubt it's going to be Genki Dama, Fusion, or Potara saving the day (though base Gogeta kicking ass would be cool). Maybe Whis will have taught Goku a new technique? Or maybe it will be a collaboration technique between Goku & Vegeta? I would love to see a new finishing technique (that actually beats the villain) for the heroes.

It's got to be one of the two reasons, no matter what, I would think. The fact that Goten and Trunks haven't even been shown or mentioned at all has to be for some reason, it can't just be...well, just because.

Really, really hoping it's updated designs for them being older.

I think they are most likely keeping the new designs for a surprise. Maybe they haven't even decided yet what they will look like.

[MagicBox]

I just find it a bit strange that some people staunchly believe Z should have a similar light tone to DB, cuz it actually didn't...until the Buu saga. And I'm not just talking about the soundtrack, I'm talking about the current movies in general. Even though we know little about the plot, so far I'm disappointed that this movie isn't taking the semi-dark tone that the earlier ones had(prior to BoG).

The Piccolo Daimao stuff is as dark as anything Z ever did, and I thought the original soundtrack did wonders for that. Likewise, I very much enjoyed the light-hearted tone in "Battle of Gods."

I do mostly agree with you about "Revival of F," though. I'd like for it to get at least a little darker for a character like Freeza, even if it's only to pay homage to his arc from the manga. Luckily it looks like things will be getting a little more serious for this outing.

Missing-wise, Trunks and Goten have me wondering most. Are they missing because Toei didn't want to spoil that they're teenagers now, or ate they missing for plot reasons?

Maybe it could be because Tagoma and Sorbet's wish rewrites history in some wa-

*dodges brick*

[JulieYBM]

Shida Naotoshi did quite a few cuts for One Piece Episode #678, so expect that to have eaten into whatever time he might have had recently. Tomita Yoshikazu and Ishigami Hiromi also worked on it. Ishigami provided key animation for Dragon Ball Z: Kami to Kami. Near as I can tell Ishigami hasn't been too busy lately, so I have to wonder if she worked on Fukkatsu no F any already.

[UpFromTheSkies]

I wonder how Freeza will be defeated... From the promotional pictures, it looks like Goku isn't stronger than him, and I doubt Vegeta will be much stronger than him. I doubt it's going to be Genki Dama, Fusion, or Potara saving the day (though base Gogeta kicking ass would be cool). Maybe Whis will have taught Goku a new technique? Or maybe it will be a collaboration technique between Goku & Vegeta? I would love to see a new finishing technique (that actually beats the villain) for the heroes.

My guess is that Beerus uses a kamikaze self destruct attack to weaken him enough for Goku and Vegeta to defeat him.

[JulieYBM]

I hope Freeza's defeat leaves a sour taste in Gokuu and Vegeta's mouths. Torture our characters a little and leave them lusting for a satisfying battle.

[Chuquita]

That would be nice, I want that "despair" mentioned to actually mean something.

Missing-wise, Trunks and Goten have me wondering most. Are they missing because Toei didn't want to spoil that they're teenagers now, or ate they missing for plot reasons?

Maybe it could be because Tagoma and Sorbet's wish rewrites history in some wa-

*dodges brick*

I'd watch rewritten history wish.
I was so sure that was it, but now, with so much time passing and no plot update, I just don't know anymore.

[Herms]

That description by Herms never made sense to me. Wouldn't it be the other way around?

It's a pretty convoluted sentence, but it's basically saying that most of what gets people labelled as "weeaboos" is simply treating a Japanese series as Japanese, and that the people who use "weeaboos" as an insult are also fans of those same Japanese series, but they want to downplay the fact that it is Japanese as much as possible. ...Yeah, it's pretty convoluted. Frankly, I regret saying it. I still think "weeaboo" is a pretty stupid term, but writing off everyone who uses it as stupid isn't helpful and doesn't facilitate conversation.

[jollyr]

I think that is evidence enough that Toriyama likes having the small guy be stronger than the big guy.

If he liked it so much, he wouldn't repeatedly show the big guy wrecking the smaller guy. It happens at least as often as the reverse. Nor he would have the powerful villain be huge. Instead, every villain would follow the Freeza formula, where their strongest form is small and weak looking.

Right but all those big buff villains ended up getting taken down by the little guy

[DieHard]

weaboo is japanese wannabe

[JulieYBM]

weaboo is japanese wannabe

We have real words to describe those sort of people, let us use them and express our disdain like grown ups...or not at all, because expressing disdain towards people over cartoons is horribly immature.

[EmmaWinters]

It's a pretty convoluted sentence

It took me a couple of reads. I think replacing "said" with "the" might help, at least, it did for me.

Frankly, I regret saying it. I still think "weeaboo" is a pretty stupid term, but writing off everyone who uses it as stupid isn't helpful and doesn't facilitate conversation

I don't think you should regret it. It's a term meant to goad a reaction and/or put someone down.
It discourages people from discussion. Calling them a half-wit for using it both fair and appropriate.

I'd watch rewritten history wish.
I was so sure that was it, but now, with so much time passing and no plot update, I just don't know anymore.

I'm not really sold on a rewritten history; it would require some major script-gymnastics with everything we currently know.

[Chuquita]

I'm no longer sold on it in the way I was now that Gohan and Kuririn's plot info had been revealed,
It's Trunks and Goten missing that are keeping me from completely writing the theory off.

[EmmaWinters]

I hope Freeza's defeat leaves a sour taste in Gokuu and Vegeta's mouths.

I honestly don't see him getting beaten. I don't want to believe that they're bringing back Freeza of all people for a glorified cage match.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I honestly don't see him getting beaten.

Freeza isn't like Beerus. Beerus is just a dick god, while Freeza is a pure evil tyrant, he shouldn't stay alive, it would be like letting a serial-killer free to do whatever he wants. So, I think that Freeza will definitely be killed.

[JulieYBM]

I hope Freeza's defeat leaves a sour taste in Gokuu and Vegeta's mouths.

I honestly don't see him getting beaten. I don't want to believe that they're bringing back Freeza of all people for a glorified cage match.

I don't necessarily mean it as 'killed', but whatever resolution the film reaches I don't want them to be happy with it at all. Then again, I'd also find myself pleased with the ending of the movie mirroring the end of Gokuu's first fight with Freeza, Gokuu telling Freeza to go off and train some more and Freeza relenting. Anything that keeps the movie from having a pat ending.

[Gaffer Tape]

Freeza isn't like Beerus. Beerus is just a dick god, while Freeza is a pure evil tyrant, he shouldn't stay alive, it would be like letting a serial-killer free to do whatever he wants.

Well, why not? Freeza could settle down on earth. Everyone could chip in and give him a place to stay. He could find a nice earth woman, like Lunch, to form a relationship with... have a child. And then he could betray them every time a new threat comes to earth, and the rest of the cast will just completely ignore how much trouble he causes them and continue to provide him with the means of getting stronger.

And if he can't figure out the ropes, then they can assign him a life coach. You know, someone who's had a great deal of experience in that area. Hey, perhaps someone Freeza already knows. Maybe even someone Freeza's already killed! There must be someone like that around.

In all seriousness, though, I do agree. I certainly wouldn't want Freeza to be at-large at the end of this film. I believe it would be very unsatisfying, and since this movie already possibly threatens to undo the impact of the Freeza arc by bringing him back... leaving him be at the end would definitely accomplish that.

[ZazamPow]

Freeza isn't like Beerus. Beerus is just a dick god, while Freeza is a pure evil tyrant, he shouldn't stay alive, it would be like letting a serial-killer free to do whatever he wants.

Well, why not? Freeza could settle down on earth. Everyone could chip in and give him a place to stay. He could find a nice earth woman, like Lunch, to form a relationship with... have a child. And then he could betray them every time a new threat comes to earth, and the rest of the cast will just completely ignore how much trouble he causes them and continue to provide him with the means of getting stronger.

You mean... Vegeta?

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

It's got to be one of the two reasons, no matter what, I would think. The fact that Goten and Trunks haven't even been shown or mentioned at all has to be for some reason, it can't just be...well, just because.

Really, really hoping it's updated designs for them being older.

Prior to the release of BOG, I was really hung up on the fact that Kaioshin was seemingly absent from everything- including the characters page on the official website.

He ended up having a cameo in the final film, so I wouldn't worry about Goten and Trunks. I'm sure they'll be it in, but I doubt their roles will be very significant.

I don't think it suits the series (or Freeza) at all. I know that this isn't the exact same situation, but I still can't help but think of what FUNimation did to DBZ movies 04 and 05: licensing random metal songs for use in a Dragon Ball film. Which everyone hated in principle and practice. Now we have another random metal song being licensed for a Dragon Ball film, and fans seem... pretty okay with it? Everyone seems to like it. Everyone seems to think it fits. The Kanzenshuu staff was wishing for it to appear in the film on the podcast. I guess the main difference here is that "F" has endorsement from the original creator, but it's a creator whose judgment has been called into question by even the most dedicated fans in recent years.

I think the big difference between F's usage in this film and the replacement scores in DBZ Movies 4 and 5 is the fact that the latter's entire soundtracks were based around this music. I give F a pass because it is an insert song. The points of its inclusion (other than to sell CD singles) is to draw attention to a particular scene and deliver a change of pace from the rest of the film. To me, it's meant to stick out. I think of it in the same way as I do of Only A Chilling Elegy in the scene where Piccolo, Gohan and Kuririn all charge Freeza.

It also helps that I really enjoy the song.

EDIT:

What's frustrating is the lack of plot info about this movie.

I dunno, things seem to be trucking along at pretty much the same pace as last time.

This was the news we got from V-Jump at this time of year in 2013:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2013/01/21/ba ... 13-v-jump/

By the way, on Freeza's power-up, I'm beginning to wonder if we'll see a Makyo Planet-type boost for him and his men in this movie.

[Hellspawn28]

I honestly don't see him getting beaten.

Freeza isn't like Beerus. Beerus is just a dick god, while Freeza is a pure evil tyrant, he shouldn't stay alive, it would be like letting a serial-killer free to do whatever he wants. So, I think that Freeza will definitely be killed.

Well Toriyama didn't kill the main villain in the 2008 Jump Special and Battle of Gods then I doubt he will kill off Freeza. Either Freeza escapes from Earth or they trap him into another dimension if he becomes too strong and immortal. Killing off Freeza would be too obvious.