Can a half-Saiyan become a Super Saiyan God?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I don't get your reasoning. At the end of the day, they're friends. Goku didn't create the Kaioken technique so why would they be embarrassed to ask him how to achieve it? The same goes for instant transmission. Goku learned the former from King Kai & the latter from some random aliens. Goku would only be doing them a favor. The same favor he was given from King Kai & the Yardrats.

I wouldn't say embarrassed, more like they would be too proud to ask him.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Goku trained Gohan so he could have at least taught him.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Goku trained Gohan so he could have at least taught him.

It took him 6 months to learn the Kaio-ken, and it was a miracle that he even managed to master it, since no one, not even its inventor, had ever master it, and Super Saiyan made it useless.

Shunkan Ido, it took almost 2 freaking years for Goku to learn it, and they had 1 year inside the RoSaT. What do you think would have been better for Gohan, to train and surpass Goku & Cell, or to learn a technique that isn't used mainly for fighting?

[singsing]

I wanted to surpass my old high school track mates, but that doesn't mean I don't ask them for help or see what they do for their training.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I wanted to surpass my old high school track mates, but that doesn't mean I don't ask them for help or see what they do for their training.

The fact that they knew Goku for decades, and apparently never asked for his help in training, means that they didn't want his help.

[dbzfan7]

I don't see why not. They can be used for the ritual so they should be able to be the center too. Kinda makes the form stupid when everyone can get crazy strong from it's use. Considering how the half breeds practically learn everything faster than everyone else it should work.

[RandomGuy96]

No, because they're not ~~Goku~~, and the form was only created to wank ~~Goku~~.

[Kaboom]

No, because they're not ~~Goku~~, and the form was only created to wank ~~Goku~~.

These types of answers are REALLY getting old. Can we all please start trying to refrain from them?

The simple fact of the matter is that Goku is the main character of the entire Dragon Ball franchise, so the spotlight is almost always going to be on him to some extent. Obviously there are some things like GT where that spotlight was focused a little too narrowly and brightly. But acting like anything and everything that benefits him or casts him in the hero's role is just "Goku-wanking" is a drastic and frankly annoying exaggeration.

[singsing]

No, because they're not ~~Goku~~, and the form was only created to wank ~~Goku~~.

These types of answers are REALLY getting old. Can we all please start trying to refrain from them?

The simple fact of the matter is that Goku is the main character of the entire Dragon Ball franchise, so the spotlight is almost always going to be on him to some extent. Obviously there are some things like GT where that spotlight was focused a little too narrowly and brightly. But acting like anything and everything that benefits him or casts him in the hero's role is just "Goku-wanking" is a drastic and frankly annoying exaggeration.

Especially since, you know, "in-universe".

[Rocketman]

The simple fact of the matter is that Goku is the main character of the entire Dragon Ball franchise, so the spotlight is almost always going to be on him to some extent. Obviously there are some things like GT where that spotlight was focused a little too narrowly and brightly. But acting like anything and everything that benefits him or casts him in the hero's role is just "Goku-wanking" is a drastic and frankly annoying exaggeration.

So why wasn't the far more powerful Gohan made the conduit for the ritual, especially if SSG's strength depends on the conduit's strength?

[Kaboom]

So why wasn't the far more powerful Gohan made the conduit for the ritual, especially if SSG's strength depends on the conduit's strength?

I guess Goku called dibs.

But other than the notion of "Toei's never really decided for themselves which hero is strongest," if the power of the conduit Saiyan helps determine how strong he becomes as a Super Saiyan God, then the power of the other Saiyans donating energy likely factors in, too. Super Saiyan God Gohan might not have ended up all that different.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I guess Goku called dibs.

Pretty much that. Goku expressed great interest in wanting to fight Beerus (again); Gohan, not so much. Gohan being the strongest at this point, prior to what happens with Goku here, isn't really that big of a deal since he seems to already be well on his way to not being as interested in fighting as he once was...again.

That and, again, Goku's the main character. Toriyama tried to give Gohan the spotlight, twice, and didn't seem to care for it either time. Him having Goku surpass him yet again to reclaim top spot is pretty par for the course.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

So why wasn't the far more powerful Gohan made the conduit for the ritual, especially if SSG's strength depends on the conduit's strength?

Because Goku wanted to fight Beerus. Remember, this is Dragon Ball. If the main characters were looking for the best solutions to protect the world, then they would have killed Dr. Gero before he could create the Artificial Humans, and they would have sticked to Kaioshin's plan to prevent Boo's revival, or Goku would have killed Fat Boo when he had the chance, or Goku & Vegeta would have used the Potara or Fusion against Pure Boo, or they would have brought Gohan & Gotenks instead of relying on the Genki Dama...

[Rocketman]

"Well, we could try our best to not die, or we could suck on Goku some more.....hm.........."

[singsing]

"Well, we could try our best to not die, or we could suck on Goku some more.....hm.........."

You're either hating on the entire premise of DB in general right now or just being purposefully difficult.

[Hugo Boss]

Gohan would have power surpassing Beerus If he was far more powerful. He is either not that different from Goku or he isn't suited for SSGod.

[Low Tone G]

Gohan would have power surpassing Beerus If he was far more powerful. He is either not that different from Goku or he isn't suited for SSGod.

Even if Gohan had a more competent SSJ-God than Goku, I don't think he could have put up a better fight than Goku did. First of all The BOG seemed to treat the fight the skills to be slightly more important than the raw power. Beerus stated Vegeta was highly skilled, yet didn't a have a potent power against him.

[Hugo Boss]

Or since they hadn't provided a reason during the ritual, they assumed SSGod's power would be the same for whoever they choose as conduit. That might be a reason to not have tried with the supposedly most powerful Saiyan around.

They could have even factored Goku's handling out of reasons. Though he and Vegeta don't have any noticeable differences in skill, Goku's character could be the only one to influence Beerus to not destroy the Earth right away. Fortunately, Goku was the first to step on. I don't think Vegeta's or Gohan's interaction with Beerus would fit that requirement.

[goku the krump dancer]

So why wasn't the far more powerful Gohan made the conduit for the ritual, especially if SSG's strength depends on the conduit's strength?

I guess Goku called dibs.

But other than the notion of "Toei's never really decided for themselves which hero is strongest," if the power of the conduit Saiyan helps determine how strong he becomes as a Super Saiyan God, then the power of the other Saiyans donating energy likely factors in, too. Super Saiyan God Gohan might not have ended up all that different.

Wow this is something I never considered and makes enough sense for me.. Add that to the fact that Goku's the better fighter anyway and there you go, our Super Saiyan God.

[sintzu]

So why wasn't the far more powerful Gohan made the conduit for the ritual ?

He was stronger in the Buu arc but not now 5 years later cause he doesn't train like Goku and he definitely doesn't have the fighting skill that Goku has.