The Cycle Is Soon To Begin...

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Re: The Cycle Is Soon To Begin...

Post by DonieZ » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:19 pm

Firstly, what I would want.

To be honest for the first time I'm not soo sure. I've always had a clear picture, but Xenoverse was supposed to be that and it didn't quite meet my expectations [which was on a pedestal because Dimps was involved]. Sure the game's pretty neat in so many different ways, but upon playing the beta the game felt a bit plasticky, not packing a punch, basically, because of I guess what was the physics, the game didn't feel superb in my hands. I feel like the characters need to feel a little heavier amongst other things to do with flight fluidity etc all that stuff. Does anyone get what I mean and/or share what I feel?
Anyway I've been waiting for my perfect 3D DB fighter for some time now, but I don't think I'll wait any longer. Not just because I don't think it will happen [which it won't], but also since I think the 3D fighter genre's had its limelight and if it isn't going to be done the way I've envisioned then might as well quit now. In fact the fighter genre all in all has had its fill if you ask me.

What I want then would have to be the other thing I've always wanted which is a high quality console RPG title. And I mean a really good one, which incorporates all aspects of a genuinely amazing RPG. For this reason I'd like it focused on DB, perhaps a series of 2 or 3 titles, for obvious reasons [less flight than in DBZ]. And then if they are really ambitious and willing to provide the resources bring it into DBZ and give us something revolutionary.


What do I expect?

Difficult to say. We know that they are going to release a console title some time next year. I wouldn't bet on a Xenoverse 2, unless their motives aren't to take it seriously and to milk what they can from what it has to give. I don't really think Xenoverse can do much more, it's given us so much already and is even topping up with DLC. In fact for this latter matter I really doubt we will see a Xenoverse 2 next year; to my reasoning it just depends on what they want this series to be, a cash cow, or something serious. That will determine whether and when we'll see another Xenoverse incarnation.

I also doubt we'll see a different 3D fighter next year. If anything I think it's possible that we get a 2D fighter of some sorts if a fighter at all. To be honest I haven't a clue. I just hope whatever it is it's awesome. It kinda feels like Dragon Ball is reviving you know what I mean, with all the awesome movies coming out and Xenoverse. It's like DB's been revived by the DB's hehe :mrgreen:

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Re: The Cycle Is Soon To Begin...

Post by Quebaz » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:51 pm

I don't want a Xenoverse 2 next year, maybe 2 or 3 after the first one releases is a good option to build hype and let the first game live its course completely.

What I want but know it will never happen? A Super DBZ sequel or an HD re-release, heck or even a new 2D Fighter altogether.

What I want and know that it's possible in the near future? A port of Zenkai Battle Royale.

What will happen? Something completely new that will leave a bad taste on our mouths.
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Post by DonieZ » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:08 pm

Quebaz wrote: What will happen? Something completely new that will leave a bad taste on our mouths.
You think so? I reckon Namco are about to start taking DBZ games seriously long term. When this game is released and it sells the way we expect it to sell, as well as just legitly seeing the quality for themselves (the insane story mode, CaC, roster, gameplay etc), I think Namco are going to realise that quality sells! And not only that, but they might even want to see quality games for their own personal desire. I'm a pretty romantic (in a seeing things with rose-tinted glasses kind of way) so I make comments like this a lot, but I reckon this is a turning point for DB games. Remember how long Xenoverse has been [somewhat] in development, they've decided to start giving the games more dev-time. For all we know a next-gen Super DBZ reincarnation of a sorts is currently in the making :D

I'm not gonna sweat over it though, you never know with NB. In a worst-case scenario reality Spike returns next year and we're back a couple centuries in the middle ages; Raging Blauuh 2.5 fully equipped with Universe Mode :P Seriously though, I think Namco Bandai needs to prove themselves a little bit more with a couple titles before we all start saying stuff like me!

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Re: The Cycle Is Soon To Begin...

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:08 am

I think Dimps should DLC for Xenoverse then give us Xenoverse 2 in 2017. That gives Dimps two years to make another game. In 2016, we can have BOZ 2 while Xenoverse is getting made.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:43 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:In 2016, we can have BOZ 2 while Xenoverse is getting made.
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I think the last thing we need is that ugly mashfest with mandatory co-op getting a sequel. I'd much rather a Burst Limit 2/Budokai 4.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:56 am

If they make some serious tweaks to Battle of Z, I wouldn't mind a sequel. The first few missions where it seemed like it might be trying to emulate Sagas was actually really cool. :lol:
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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:If they make some serious tweaks to Battle of Z, I wouldn't mind a sequel. The first few missions where it seemed like it might be trying to emulate Sagas was actually really cool. :lol:
If they ever do Battle of Zzz..... they should redo the combat system completely from the ground up. No more one combo for instance.

Oh and give it a major facelift. BoZ had some of the worst graphics for an HD console I've ever saw.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The Cycle Is Soon To Begin...

Post by budokaifanatic007 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:30 pm

I never played Super DBZ but it would be cool for them to make an updated version with a couple more characters in HD. I really don't see a Xenoverse 2 for 2016 most likely a tenkaichi HD collection(that would be awesome) or a new filler game due to their contract with Shueisha.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:26 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:If they make some serious tweaks to Battle of Z, I wouldn't mind a sequel. The first few missions where it seemed like it might be trying to emulate Sagas was actually really cool. :lol:
If they ever do Battle of Zzz..... they should redo the combat system completely from the ground up. No more one combo for instance.

Oh and give it a major facelift. BoZ had some of the worst graphics for an HD console I've ever saw.
If Battle Of Z 2 happens it better not happen in the next two years. Artdink better take their damn good time redesigning the game from scratch.

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Post by DonieZ » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:56 pm

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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:If they make some serious tweaks to Battle of Z, I wouldn't mind a sequel. The first few missions where it seemed like it might be trying to emulate Sagas was actually really cool. :lol:
If they ever do Battle of Zzz..... they should redo the combat system completely from the ground up. No more one combo for instance.

Oh and give it a major facelift. BoZ had some of the worst graphics for an HD console I've ever saw.
If Battle Of Z 2 happens it better not happen in the next two years. Artdink better take their damn good time redesigning the game from scratch.
Then how would that be Battle of Z 2? That would just be a completely new title.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:25 pm

mysticboy wrote:With RB2 there was glimpse of were that potential was going, and I'd love to see how it would end up with a third game.
The Raging Blast games had no potential. The second game was the first game with different graphics and more characters. The first RB game was a water down version of the Sparking games. Spike is done and over with. Namco Bandai should never hire them back.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:07 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
mysticboy wrote:With RB2 there was glimpse of were that potential was going, and I'd love to see how it would end up with a third game.
The Raging Blast games had no potential. The second game was the first game with different graphics and more characters. The first RB game was a water down version of the Sparking games. Spike is done and over with. Namco Bandai should never hire them back.
Amen to that. Spike had several chances to prove that they could still produce good Dragon Ball games and blew it every single time. Raging Blast 1 was mediocre, Raging Blast 2 was uninspired and Ultimate Blast was just God-awful. Don't come back Spike. You've overstayed your welcome.

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Post by budokaifanatic007 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:31 am

Quick question, So if XENOVERSE does very well will this mean DragonBall games with a bigger budget have a higher chance of happening?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:50 am

budokaifanatic007 wrote:Quick question, So if XENOVERSE does very well will this mean DragonBall games with a bigger budget have a higher chance of happening?
Most likely. But of course it all depends when the games are released. If the next game after Xenoverse is released with next 1-2 years, it's a strong indication that the game was rushed to a degree. I'm gonna support Xenoverse not just because I want Dragon Ball games to have a bigger budget in the future but because I personally think Xenoverse is shaping up to be the best Dragon Ball game in a decade and hopefully in the long run will be considered on of the best Dragon Ball games of all time.
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Post by mysticboy » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:14 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:The Raging Blast games had no potential. The second game was the first game with different graphics and more characters. The first RB game was a water down version of the Sparking games. Spike is done and over with. Namco Bandai should never hire them back.
Well, that's your opinion. But it felt like they were testing the waters with RB1 imo. I don't see it being "watered-down", but something new to be built upon and tweaked to perfection in later installments. RB1 was serviceable imo, RB2 was great, and if they kept building upon it, an RB3 would be spectacular imo.

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Post by InfernalVegito » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:29 pm

Well, whether they were good or bad is up to one's own definition. All I know is that I played the shit out of them.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:51 pm

I only played the demo for Battle of Z, the game felt like Dragon Ball Z: Legends meets Spawn: In the Demon Hand (One of my favorite games on the Dreamcast). I think the game could have been awesome if the gameplay was better and didn't had a terrible story mode that was just as bad as the story mode in the first Sparking game.
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Post by Bullza » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:46 pm

As far as Fighting games go I'd be perfectly fine with Dimps making a new Xenoverse game every two years and that's it. No Spike. No Raging Blast 3. No Battle of Z 2 etc.

If some other developer wanted to make a completely different kind of game like an RPG, like a console remake of Legacy of Goku 2 or even something like One Piece Red for handhelds then I'd like that too.

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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:36 pm

Bullza wrote:As far as Fighting games go I'd be perfectly fine with Dimps making a new Xenoverse game every two years and that's it.
See, I would say that too, but what else can they do with the story after this one? History changes, so we fix it. That's done now. So unless it's completely brand new, what more can the bring to the table, other than fixed combat and whatnot.
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Post by Bullza » Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:06 pm

Well from a story perspective the Dragon Ball series is made up of 12 Universes. For the next game they could have one of these verses be in jeopardy so your created character (which you could import from a Xenoverse save file) could be called upon to fix the problems of that verse.

Whereas Xenoverse's story mainly involves tweaks of what happened in the series, this games story could just be completely different. If Xenoverse can introduce four or five original characters and a couple locations then why can't the next game introduce ten new characters and a half dozen new locations? The main villain could just be the God of Destruction of that universe who'd be using all the different villains from across the series, the movies and original villains to take over or destroy planets and it's up to you to put a stop to them along with help from the familiar heroes.

There's no reason something like that couldn't be done as long as Dimps was willing to take their creativity up a notch.

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