Guldo's Time Freeze & The Galactic Patrol

[Regarder]

Huh...you know, that actually raises another question. Exactly how far does Guldo's technique extend anyway? Is all time, everywhere, stopped for the brief moment he can hold his breath, or is it only over a limited area?

It must at least be a planet sized space, because otherwise the planet would VERY quickly diverge or converge with those stopped blasts through its motion through space. If it only stopped a whole island say, then the rest of the planet would crash into and around that one stopped area. Guldo himself must be able to push around stopped objects of course, because otherwise he wouldn't be able to move through the stopped air.

At any rate (hah!), I really like the idea of this one piddling character in terms of power being able to stop all time across the Universe.

[Hitiro]

It must at least be a planet sized space, because otherwise the planet would VERY quickly diverge or converge with those stopped blasts through its motion through space. If it only stopped a whole island say, then the rest of the planet would crash into and around that one stopped area. Guldo himself must be able to push around stopped objects of course, because otherwise he wouldn't be able to move through the stopped air.

At any rate (hah!), I really like the idea of this one piddling character in terms of power being able to stop all time across the Universe.

But then wouldn't that be the same for Guldo? I mean he is in the planets rotation right now so if he stops the planet won't he be launched off of it or into the ground?

[Regarder]

It must at least be a planet sized space, because otherwise the planet would VERY quickly diverge or converge with those stopped blasts through its motion through space. If it only stopped a whole island say, then the rest of the planet would crash into and around that one stopped area. Guldo himself must be able to push around stopped objects of course, because otherwise he wouldn't be able to move through the stopped air.

At any rate (hah!), I really like the idea of this one piddling character in terms of power being able to stop all time across the Universe.

But then wouldn't that be the same for Guldo? I mean he is in the planets rotation right now so if he stops the planet won't he be launched off of it or into the ground?

Well, he can fly. Also, if he stops time then the air around him could stop him because it's stopped too, or at least until he wants it to move; maybe he can be a little selective so long as he holds his breath, because he is psychic after all.

[Stonefallow]

Still moving, planet's rotate. =P

While time flows, yes.

With my previous suggestion, time never actually stops. The relativity thing can still come into play because even though Ghurd himself isn't really in motion when he "freezes" things and changes everyone's perception, the universe itself is moving, and thus so is he.

I think that is over thinking it. The manga states time is frozen and the guides say that he actually stops time. Having him actually move that fast would contradict direct statements from him, Krillin, Gohan, and Burter. It also does not match what we actually see in the manga. He is seen standing completely still and even hides behind a rock at one point. Sure you could argue that his molecules were just moving really fast but that would require a lot of knowledge of real world physics that Toriyama simply didn't have and didn't apply to his writing.

The simplest explanation with the fewest assumptions is that Guldo's ki could literally stop time. It makes just as much sense as Goku's IT or Buu magically turning people into chocolate.

On a side note, I wonder if the ability would have any effect on the Kaiojikan...My guess is no.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Of course it's over thinking it, but it's the best way for me to rationalize it because there are too many other problems that come into play if you just say "Ghurd can stop time" (as noted in the same post you snipped that quote out of and was then subsequently discussed by following posters).

Yes, that mean bringing science into Dragon Ball, which generally doesn't mix, but even Toriyama himself tries to use pseudo-science to explain some parts of the series (and generally fails at it). I'm just falling in line.

[Stonefallow]

Of course it's over thinking it, but it's the best way for me to rationalize it because there are too many other problems that come into play if you just say "Ghurd can stop time" (as noted in the same post you snipped that quote out of and was then subsequently discussed by following posters).

Yes, that mean bringing science into Dragon Ball, which generally doesn't mix, but even Toriyama himself tries to use pseudo-science to explain some parts of the series (and generally fails at it). I'm just falling in line.

There's no problems that come into play from it. Just like there's no problems that come into play when Goku moves at 10,000+ times the speed of light. Ki follows its own rules and in some way or another coexists with the physics of that fictional universe.

Regarding the rest of the post that quote came from, I didn't include it because I felt it was a weak argument. There's nothing wrong with having him freezing the entire universe rather than just the area he's in. No one would even notice because from their perspective it would be instantaneous. And again, it's a ki ability. It can rip through dimensions, pass the speed of light, turn people into chocolate, and create a new soul with fusion. It can certainly stop time.

[Hitiro]

Well, he can fly. Also, if he stops time then the air around him could stop him because it's stopped too, or at least until he wants it to move; maybe he can be a little selective so long as he holds his breath, because he is psychic after all.

Technically if the air was frozen in time he may as well be stuck in a breeze-block because the air would literally act as a wall to prevent him from moving. It's all around him so there would be no way to move unless he unfroze the air around him while he moved. Because yeah, if the air was literally frozen in time it wouldn't move out of his way when he tries to move.