The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[DBZAOTA482]

Kaioshin's scared shitless then Freeza tries to take advantage of the situation then Kaioshin surprises him with a kiai which he did out of fear.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

SSJ Kid Trunks (post) vs. Perfect Cell (@ Goku)

EDIT: for the sake of argument, skill is a non factor.

[ZombieVito]

SSJ Kid Trunks (post) vs. Perfect Cell (@ Goku)

I have Trunks a bit stronger (350 vs 320) but Cell can make up for that by skill and regeneration.

Cell wins.

[Saiga]

Kaioshin's helpless, so Freeza breaks his arm punching him and slowly bleeds to death.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

SSJ Kid Trunks (post) vs. Perfect Cell (@ Goku)

EDIT: for the sake of argument, skill is a non factor.

[Lord Beerus]

SSJ Kid Trunks (post) vs. Perfect Cell (@ Goku)

EDIT: for the sake of argument, skill is a non factor.

Perfect Cell.

[In Brightest Day]

Appule vs. Son Goku, Piccolo and Son Gohan (Beginning of Z).

- Same scenario as the Raditz fight with Gohan locked in the pod.

[Lord Beerus]

Appule vs. Son Goku, Piccolo and Son Gohan (Beginning of Z).

- Same scenario as the Raditz fight with Gohan locked in the pod.

Appule stomps.

[RandomGuy96]

Apple could sit perfectly still while Piccolo charges his SBC, and it still wouldn't accomplish anything. It'd just break on his skin. If Gohan tries to do that headbutt, he'll just break his own neck. Appule managed to defend himself against a Namekian warrior with a power level of 3,000. He could most likely solo even the later Saiyan arc Z team besides Goku and Piccolo.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Android arc Piccolo (pre-merge) vs. Mecha arc SSJ Trunks, 2 arm SSJ Future Gohan, and 100% Freeza

[DBZAOTA482]

Android arc Piccolo (pre-merge) vs. Mecha arc SSJ Trunks, 2 arm SSJ Future Gohan, and 100% Freeza

The latter overwhelm Piccolo and win unless maybe Piccolo can come up with something.

[Rocketman]

Android arc Piccolo (pre-merge) vs. Mecha arc SSJ Trunks, 2 arm SSJ Future Gohan, and 100% Freeza

Any single one could beat him easily, though Gohan would have the hardest time of it.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

There's literally no reason for Piccolo to be weaker than SSJ Trunks from the Mecha Freeza saga

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Android arc Piccolo (pre-merge) vs. Mecha arc SSJ Trunks, 2 arm SSJ Future Gohan, and 100% Freeza

Freeza kills Piccolo with his tail.

[Rocketman]

There's literally no reason for Piccolo to be weaker than SSJ Trunks from the Mecha Freeza saga

There's no reason for him to be stronger either.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

He was confident in taking on two Androids who he thought could stomp Trunks... Don't see how he's confident when he's weaker than Trunks.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

He was confident in taking on two Androids who he thought could stomp Trunks...

He never said "maybe I can take the two Artificial Humans that could stomp Trunks". This is what he said:

Chapter 337 (DBZ 143), P1.3-4, P2.1
Piccolo: “How about it, Son Goku…Frankly, do you think we can win against this enemy…”
Goku: “There’s no way I could know that without even seeing them. I’ll answer once I give it a try.”
Piccolo: “You’re pretty carefree…It’s not like I lack confidence…However, I can’t clear this uneasy premonition from my mind…”

He is confident that the whole team in general will be able to defeat the Artificial Humans, not that he was confident he, on his own, will be able to beat them.

The only statement that places him anywhere near the Super Saiyans is this:


Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”

And this is a conclusion based on the "fact" that these Artificial Humans killed Super Saiyans in the future, which turns out to be false, and the actual Artificial Humans that killed Super Saiyans in the future are much, much stronger than those.

Furthermore, Trunks is still on the same level he was against Freeza:

Chapter: 356 (DBZ 162), P3.1
God: “Things turned out this way against the androids…Even for that ‘Trunks’ boy who came from the future and instantly obliterated Freeza and his father…and even for Vegeta, whose abilities are even greater than Trunks…”

If he wasn't, Kami would have said something like "Even for that ‘Trunks’ boy who came from the future and instantly obliterated Freeza and his father, and has now grown even stronger than he was back then…and even for Vegeta, whose abilities are even greater than Trunks…"

And since, IMO, it makes no sense for Piccolo to become over a hundred times stronger just by doing training on his own, I don't believe he is anywhere near the Super Saiyans, or even Freeza. He is just much stronger than the Earthlings, and #19 & #20.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

There's also this:

Spoiler:

After tooling around 20, Piccolo wonders if the androids were weaker than expected, or if they became too strong for the androids. So Piccolo doesn't 100% doubt the Androids being weaker than Trunks.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

And it turns out that a) is the answer: They weren't as strong as they were supposed to be. Piccolo's only reasoning of becoming too strong for them is because he was kicking #20's ass when he is supposed to be a monster that kills Super Saiyans in the future, not because he sat down & did the math with his & Trunks' battle powers.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

What I'm saying is, if Piccolo was nowhere near SSJ Trunks, he would've instantly came to the conclusion that the Androids were weaker than expected, but instead, he wonders if he had just became too strong.