Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Mr.Judge » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:51 pm

4 months training? Japanese for 4 meaning death?

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Post by Dyno » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:52 pm

Because, well... This determines whether Super Saiyan God is indeed the strongest form or not.

In fact, it was said Super Saiyan God surpasses Super Saiyan 3, but clearly it was based on Kakarot. But how does it work for the "Original Super Saiyan God"? Has he reached the same level Kakarot's had in Battle of Gods, or has he reached the same level Kakarot had in Freeza, Cell or Buu arc when he got access to the transformation?

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Post by voltlunok » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:53 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:Why do people want to know such specific, irrelevant details like how many times SSJG multiplies base power?
Cause some people want SSJ4 to be dethroned or the transformation wars to end. To do so they need a solid written down base line from Toriyama or someone connected to Toriyama but with how he just doesn't care about such trivial things and how in recent years he has started becoming against transformations, he probably never will do any of that. I genuinely don't care but that is mostly cause I don't care about SSJG as a form nor do I care for the argument.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:58 pm

I don't really care that much about power related things, but...
Dyno wrote:In fact, it was said Super Saiyan God surpasses Super Saiyan 3, but clearly it was based on Kakarot. But how does it work for the "Original Super Saiyan God"? Has he reached the same level Kakarot's had in Battle of Gods, or has he reached the same level Kakarot had in Freeza, Cell or Buu arc when he got access to the transformation?
I would assume that a big part of it was based on Goku being Goku, not to mention how strong he was, yeah. I mean...the Saiyans that the original Super Saiyan God were facing were likely all regular Saiyans, not Super Saiyans. And even if they were, they probably weren't anything beyond that in power, which Beerus is far, far beyond. So even with the insanely short time limit, I can't imagine the original Super Saiyan God failing like he did given the much weaker opponents he had to deal with.

Unless...hmm. Could his time limit have been even shorter, since the Saiyans that helped him access the power were weaker than Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and probably-for-whatever-reasons Pan are?
Mr.Judge wrote:4 months training? Japanese for 4 meaning death?
Huh, hadn't thought of that, that's an interesting note.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Chuquita » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:02 pm

voltlunok wrote: I hope we get more info soon cause being this in the dark is making me scared for this movie. The little bits and pieces we've gotten have made my hype meter go up and down like a roller coaster and it's becoming exhausting! The training thing had me interested then they say 'oh yeah he only trained for 4 months' and I lost interest. However Pilaf's gang and the 'angel of hell' have me still somewhat interested but I don't know if that is enough to keep me biting at the bit for this movie...Toei...More info please! :crazy:
Roller coaster is a good term for this movie's news blips. Never was BOG like this for me. I rode a high of excitement from start to end with BOG.

I want to know what's going on with Gokû and Vegeta so bad, it supplants any concern over how Freeza gets that strong over four months.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:09 pm

Dyno wrote:Because, well... This determines whether Super Saiyan God is indeed the strongest form or not.

In fact, it was said Super Saiyan God surpasses Super Saiyan 3, but clearly it was based on Kakarot. But how does it work for the "Original Super Saiyan God"? Has he reached the same level Kakarot's had in Battle of Gods, or has he reached the same level Kakarot had in Freeza, Cell or Buu arc when he got access to the transformation?
It is the strongest, Toriyama said that after mastering SSJG there's no need to transform anymore. As for exactly how powerful the original SSJG was in relation to SSJG Goku, I don't see how it's relevant to the story.

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Post by shinmaru » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:31 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote: But we saw the pieces literally blasted into smithereens.
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Plot twist: all this time since BOG, it's been the universe where Trunks forgot to do that.
Because Freeza already dead before he got blasted to dust.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:47 pm

Kakarot9001 wrote: Anyway I read about the "official" conception of Toriyama about the Hell in the series and I really dislike that he is ignoring the anime and going only through the manga
Of course he would ignore the anime since the anime is adaption of his work. His world of Dragon Ball is different then what we saw on TV. I see nothing wrong with Toriyama ignoring the anime fillers and GT. They are not apart of his creation and I consider that a good thing. People wanted Toryiama to come back to Dragon Ball and ignore the crap that Toei give us. 15-10 years later and people are now upset about it. I think it's also a good thing since it ends debates since we see Mecha Freeza in Hell while in the anime that he never had his cyborg body after death.
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Post by singsing » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:51 pm

Mr.Judge wrote:4 months training? Japanese for 4 meaning death?
That would be Mandarin, unless it's the same in Japanese...

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Post by Big Momma » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:55 pm

singsing wrote:
Mr.Judge wrote:4 months training? Japanese for 4 meaning death?
That would be Mandarin, unless it's the same in Japanese...
It is.
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Post by El Diabeetus » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:05 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Did Toriyama draw that? Because it looks so much like his artstyle.
He did, that coloring style is easily current Toriyama. Slightly different than Kanzenban era, but still pretty close to that.

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Post by Marco Polo » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:06 pm

Frieza knew about Buu all along? How?

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Post by sintzu » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:06 pm

A better look at Vegeta's new armor from Heroes :

http://dragonblogz.com/wp-content/uploa ... AACseE.jpg
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Post by Tyro » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:11 pm

dbzfan7 wrote: But we saw the pieces literally blasted into smithereens.
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People, do we have to keep using these early 2000's scans? It's 2015. The tankobon have been commercially available in multiple countries for decades. The kanzenban have been around since 2004. The full color manga is less than 2 years old. You can buy physical copies and scan them yourself or even pick them up digitally. For the love of god at least flip the picture the correct way. We're better than this.

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Post by Low Tone G » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:12 pm

Marco Polo wrote:Freeza knew about Buu all along? How?
From his father(Baba ~ papa)?
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Post by Marco Polo » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:13 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Did Toriyama draw that? Because it looks so much like his artstyle.
That's definitely Toriyama. Look at how thin Vegeta is :wink:
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Marco Polo wrote:Freeza knew about Buu all along? How?
From his father(Baba ~ papa)?
I thought Buu had been sealed for millions of years...

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:16 pm

Lord Beerus wrote: I wouldn't mind if he kept the concept of the Shadow Dragons, they were awesome.
If the Shadow Dragons were ever going to return then they would need be totally revamp seeing they were lame and generic. Yi Xing Long had no personally and zero suspense to his character when you compare him to Freeza, Cell and Buu.
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Post by Doctor. » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:16 pm

Those eyes don't look like Toriyama's (current) style.

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Post by Ajay » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:17 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Did Toriyama draw that? Because it looks so much like his artstyle.
That's definitely Toriyama. Look at how thin Vegeta is :wink:
It's Toyotaro, is it not? It's just the full size version from this promo -

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Could well be wrong but I thought that was the assumption we were making previously?
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Post by Dyno » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:20 pm

Whoever made these arts, they are pretty amazing, huh. :thumbup:

EDIT: It is growing on me this new pair of shoes of Kakarot.

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