Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:24 pm

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Kakarot9001 wrote: Krillin the strongest earthling? Toriyama must be out of his mind, for god's sake...
How is he out of his mind?
How is Tenshinhan supposed to be weaker than Krillin? Tenshinhan trained all those years Android Saga/Boo Saga while Krillin after Android Saga slacked off because of his family and only trained because of Tenkaichi Budokai

Tenshinhan was always stronger than Krillin... I don't see how Toriyama can see the opposite
Tien wasn't always stronger than Krillin. There has been nothing to indicate that. In fact, since the battle against Vegeta, Krillin's power level skyrocketed and it was Tien playing catch up. Krillin's last recorded power level was 75,000 and he only grew stronger, whereas Tien's strength, since after the Freeza arc, has always been left too vague to draw to a conclusion as to how strong he was.

Krillin > Tien. Get over it.

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Post by Dyno » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:27 pm

I'm glad we have an official statement Kuririn is the strongest human... Until Uub appears, that is. :P

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Post by Friezacooler » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:31 pm

If Freeza is on earth, and Whis, Goku and Vegeta are on otherworld. who are the other 2 sparing in the trailer on the Kai's realm.

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Post by Marco Polo » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:32 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Marco Polo wrote:Glad to read that Krillin is still the strongest Earthling warrior.
It was confirmed again?
Yup, in the character profiles for the movie, Krillin is destribed as "the strongest Earthling warrior", while Tenshinhan is just "a martial artist":

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/02/23/of ... -profiles/

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Post by EmmaWinters » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:34 pm

Dyno wrote:I'm glad we have an official statement Kuririn is the strongest human...
It's mentioned by Yamcha in the manga, and Toriyama has said as much in interviews. This is just icing on the cake.
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Post by GokuRules987 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:34 pm

Dyno wrote:I'm glad we have an official statement Kuririn is the strongest human... Until Uub appears, that is. :P
I think Uub was created for GT plot. and since hes equalent to majin buu strength, his power would hardly matter in the series anymore.
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Post by coola » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:39 pm

Surprised with how feminine Videl looks, guess she is not tomboy anymore :) Image
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Post by Dyno » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:41 pm

FatNagger69 wrote:
Dyno wrote:I'm glad we have an official statement Kuririn is the strongest human...
It's mentioned by Yamcha in the manga, and Toriyama has said as much in interviews. This is just icing on the cake.
I remember, but since we can't take word-by-word of everything they say and given the context, I would prefer to use other arguments rather than just Yamcha's line. And in interviews, I never saw it, though I found his japanese voice actress indeed said he is the strongest, does that count? :)

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:45 pm

coola wrote:Surprised with how feminine Videl looks, guess she is not tomboy anymore :) Image
There's not a single outfit I've seen Videl wear that I wouldn't want to incorporate into my own wardrobe, and this is no exception.

I hope she's still a tomboy, though...
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Post by rereboy » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:45 pm

Lord Beerus wrote: Tenshinhan wasn't always stronger than Krillin. There has been nothing to indicate that. In fact, since the battle against Vegeta, Krillin's power level skyrocketed and it was Tenshinhan playing catch up. Krillin's last recorded power level was 75,000 and he only grew stronger, whereas Tenshinhan's strength, since after the Freeza arc, has always been left too vague to draw to a conclusion as to how strong he was.

Krillin > Tenshinhan. Get over it.
Krillin's power was never recorded as 75.000 in the manga. We had Krillin and Gohan having trouble double-teaming a Ginyu-Goku that was recorded at 20 something thousand, and then we have no further indication for Krillin since Freeza dwarfs them all and Gohan starts to show that he is way superior to Krillin with his rage boosts.

Following the manga, besides that indirect statement by Yamcha in the Buu saga, there's really nothing putting Krillin above Tenshinhan and no indication that Tenshinhan even had to power up THAT much with Kaio and his other training to catch up to Krillin. In fact, in terms of feats after the Namek saga, Tenshinhan has better feats.

So, honestly, its not surprising at all that many find it weird that Krillin is stronger. In fact, personally, I think that's a wrong choice, considering that Krillin even settled down after the Cell saga. It would make more sense to have Tenshinhan being stronger by the end of the manga, but I suspect that its not that way simply because Krillin is more loved (out of universe).

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:47 pm

coola wrote:Surprised with how feminine Videl looks, guess she is not tomboy anymore :) Image
Never seen Videl that beautiful before. :)

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Post by mAcChaos » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:48 pm

GoldLiger wrote:
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Kakarot9001 wrote:How is Tenshinhan supposed to be weaker than Krillin? Tenshinhan trained all those years Android Saga/Boo Saga while Krillin after Android Saga slacked off because of his family and only trained because of Tenkaichi Budokai

Tenshinhan was always stronger than Krillin... I don't see how Toriyama can see the opposite
How do you know that he wasn't training with #18? Training with a partner always gives better results.
The fact that Tenshinhan is stronger than Kuririn is a fact that few forget(including AT). You can tell in the Buu saga how strong he got. AT is at the point in his life that if he doesn't do the proper research than he is going to make a lot of RETCON worthy mistakes.
But Yamcha says it himself, in the Buu Saga.
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Post by Bullza » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:49 pm

I'd like to see Krillin hold off Semi Perfect Cell for even a fraction as long as what Tien did.

One of those attacks would fry Krillin to ashes.

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Post by Marco Polo » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:51 pm

coola wrote:guess she is not tomboy anymore :)
Just like Chi-Chi :thumbup:

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:53 pm

Bullza wrote:I'd like to see Krillin hold off Semi Perfect Cell for even a fraction as long as what Tenshinhan did.

One of those attacks would fry Krillin to ashes.
I'd like to see Tien try that before Krillin cuts him in half with a Kienzan. :P

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Post by Bullza » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:57 pm

Krillin couldn't even cut Nappa in half, his only success with the move has been cutting off a bit of Frieza's tail. Tien at least has hit someone with his move.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:59 pm

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Marco Polo wrote:Just like Chi-Chi :thumbup:
Though Chi-Chi wasn't as tomboyish as Videl was and didn't lose the attitude entirely.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:02 pm

Bullza wrote:Krillin couldn't even cut Nappa in half, his only success with the move has been cutting off a bit of Freeza's tail. Tenshinhan at least has hit someone with his move.
Krillin couldn't cut Nappa in half because Vegeta told him to dodge the attack, because even Vegeta knew Nappa couldn't tank the Kienzan. It would have could his head off. Whereas Nappa tanked the Tri-Beam and Semi Perfect Cell suffered zero damage from Tien's most powerful variant of the Tri-Beam.

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Post by Mr.Judge » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:03 pm

Do any higher up(director etc.) who are associated with Revival of F share information through their twitter handle?Or rather do they even have a twitter handle for people to follow?

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:06 pm

Just dropped by to see what's new with the movie, at least I can say one good thing about the movie, I'm loving the character designs. :thumbup:
And from it sparked another Tenshinhan vs Krillin debate, it seems things never change.... :roll:

As for Freeza's new form or whatever, I'm gonna give it the fair shake of the stick. I think the idea of it is stupid... But hey, it might look cool.
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