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I saw a theory in a site that could be applied:Lord Beerus wrote:We'd need to know how much of a multiplier SSJ4 is to begin with.Kakarot9001 wrote:Coola could train 4 months to surpass SSJ4
Yes, because if there's anyone who would create a story based on the popularity of a character or straight up fan service, it's AT.Dyno wrote:Or it just would be better a new character, bringing a lot more to Dragon Ball universe than a long-time dead villain, clearly brought back because... Well... Popularity or worse... Fan-service.radrappy wrote:Some people are still offended that Freeza is back at all as opposed to whoever is their personal favorite movie villain.
Yeah. Even Nozawa, in the recent Bulma blog post, said that she wasn't expecting some of the events that'll happen in the movie when she read the script.radrappy wrote: Yes, because if there's anyone who would create a story based on the popularity of a character or straight up fan service, it's AT.
Except no, not ever. The man is notorious for only writing what he feels like.
Super Saiyan is supposed to be 50x, Super Saiyan 2 100x, Super Saiyan 3 400x and Super Saiyan 4 4000x.Kakarot9001 wrote:I saw a theory in a site that could be applied:Lord Beerus wrote:We'd need to know how much of a multiplier SSJ4 is to begin with.Kakarot9001 wrote:Coola could train 4 months to surpass SSJ4
- Oozaru = x10
- Super Saiyan = x50
- Ascended Super Saiyan = x55
- Ultra Super Saiyan = x65
- Full Power Super Saiyan = x65
- Super Saiyan 2 = x75
- Super Saiyan 3 = x85
- Super Saiyan God = x90
- Golden Oozaru = x95
- Super Saiyan 4 = x100
The others are right, but SSJ4 has no official multiplier.Bullza wrote: Super Saiyan is supposed to be 50x, Super Saiyan 2 100x, Super Saiyan 3 400x and Super Saiyan 4 4000x.
Super Saiyan God obviously hasn't been given any kind of multiplayer but it would be faaaaar above 4000x, probably over 10,000 too.
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
Aren't these numbers a little bit exaggerated? And how could SSJ4 be less powerful than SSJG?Bullza wrote:Super Saiyan is supposed to be 50x, Super Saiyan 2 100x, Super Saiyan 3 400x and Super Saiyan 4 4000x.
Super Saiyan God obviously hasn't been given any kind of multiplayer but it would be way above 10,000 too.
I don't see a problem with it, I think it would be funny if Freeza catches up to Goku after a few months of regular training, just like it was funny when Goten and Trunks became SSJ without even trying. Some people just take the series way too seriously.kei17 wrote:I don't understand why some people are already bitching about "4 months of training" even though we don't yet know what the method is.
Even if it's just a normal training, what's the problem? We have seen so many instant powerups throughout the series. What's so implausible this time compared to the past ones?
Probably tossed the Ozaru multiplier on top of SS3. While you can find evidence for at least that in GT itself (as well as evidence for many other options), there is no official multiplier given like we have for SS/2/3.Bullza wrote:Screw Attack's Goku vs Superman video had the SSJ4 at being 10x stronger I figured they got that from somewhere.
Gohan is my guessChuquita wrote:Just knowing there'll be another official post later on tonight with more possible-info; I'm so happy they started that blog.
Who do you think the next special guest will be?
*Is guessing Vegeta*. :3
Rocketman(In response to a post about Pandora's Box) wrote: I sat here for ten damn minutes wondering what the hell God of War had to do with any of this.
Youtube | Art/Animation BlogInsertclevername wrote:I plan to lose my virginity to Dragon Box 2.
Goku became millions of time stronger from his birth and power level of about 10 to his SSJ3 form. If Freeza could became 1000 time more stronger then he is, it would probably be enough to defeat God Goku, and with enough time for training, why couldnt't he? I agree that 4 months is not enough time to surpass God Goku and I don't think he'll surpass him like that, we still don't know what method will Freeza use.GokuRules987 wrote:What about when piccolo said during the battle of gods that just by powering up isnt enough to be able to compete with god? Goku is no longer a child with a power level of 10, Hes now a god! and he has the power that even if Freeza trained for million of years wouldnt be able to compete against him let alone only 4 months lol.
Also you said that nobody said that Freeza will compete with ssj god with only training? well technically I wasent actually talking about ssj god Goku i was talking about base god goku because technically Goku now has godly ki even when hes not a super saiyan god. during the Beerus fight he was even able to fight Beerus with only his base form which shows he technically doesnt need to transform into super saiyan god in order to have godly ki.
And unless you think there is a possibility that Freeza training 4 months later would prove him being no where near as powerful as Goku what would be the whole point of the movie? Freeza resurrects, Freeza trains 4 months, Freeza realized that Goku has godly power so he gets blinks away by Goku and movie ends? lol
If this movie took place in post cell saga maybe it would made more sense but at this point Freeza needs more than 4 months to even face against piccolo or gohan
No, they are numbers given in an official publication. I don't know where yours came from, but they have no backing from anything put out by Toei, Shueisha, or Toriyama.Kakarot9001 wrote:Aren't these numbers a little bit exaggerated? And how could SSJ4 be less powerful than SSJG?Bullza wrote:Super Saiyan is supposed to be 50x, Super Saiyan 2 100x, Super Saiyan 3 400x and Super Saiyan 4 4000x.
Super Saiyan God obviously hasn't been given any kind of multiplayer but it would be way above 10,000 too.
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
Because ssjg blew ssj4 out the water.Kakarot9001 wrote:Aren't these numbers a little bit exaggerated? And how could SSJ4 be less powerful than SSJG?Bullza wrote:Super Saiyan is supposed to be 50x, Super Saiyan 2 100x, Super Saiyan 3 400x and Super Saiyan 4 4000x.
Super Saiyan God obviously hasn't been given any kind of multiplayer but it would be way above 10,000 too.
Yeah, that's exactly where they got it from. We told them it was a crap shoot, but they really wanted a number, so they went with it.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Probably tossed the Ozaru multiplier on top of SS3. While you can find evidence for at least that in GT itself (as well as evidence for many other options), there is no official multiplier given like we have for SS/2/3.Bullza wrote:Screw Attack's Goku vs Superman video had the SSJ4 at being 10x stronger I figured they got that from somewhere.
Why has Vegeta never reached SSJ3?Tunjevina wrote:Goku became millions of time stronger from his birth and power level of about 10 to his SSJ3 form. If Freeza could became 1000 time more stronger then he is, it would probably be enough to defeat God Goku, and with enough time for training, why couldnt't he? I agree that 4 months is not enough time to surpass God Goku and I don't think he'll surpass him like that, we still don't know what method will Freeza use.GokuRules987 wrote:What about when piccolo said during the battle of gods that just by powering up isnt enough to be able to compete with god? Goku is no longer a child with a power level of 10, Hes now a god! and he has the power that even if Freeza trained for million of years wouldnt be able to compete against him let alone only 4 months lol.
Also you said that nobody said that Freeza will compete with ssj god with only training? well technically I wasent actually talking about ssj god Goku i was talking about base god goku because technically Goku now has godly ki even when hes not a super saiyan god. during the Beerus fight he was even able to fight Beerus with only his base form which shows he technically doesnt need to transform into super saiyan god in order to have godly ki.
And unless you think there is a possibility that Freeza training 4 months later would prove him being no where near as powerful as Goku what would be the whole point of the movie? Freeza resurrects, Freeza trains 4 months, Freeza realized that Goku has godly power so he gets blinks away by Goku and movie ends? lol
If this movie took place in post cell saga maybe it would made more sense but at this point Freeza needs more than 4 months to even face against piccolo or gohan
Still what he said, 4 months to surpass Goku that defeated Buu is actually pretty accurate. Think of it like this: Goku went from battle power of 416 to battle power of over 8000 (without Kaio-Ken) with only 158 days of training, that's almost 20x the power-up, if Freeza can become somwhere between 10-20 time more powerful in 4 months, that would put him above SSJ3 Goku (I think), so it's not irrational.
Insert Rocketman comment about Goku here -vegitot wrote:Why has Vegeta never reached SSJ3?Tunjevina wrote:Goku became millions of time stronger from his birth and power level of about 10 to his SSJ3 form. If Freeza could became 1000 time more stronger then he is, it would probably be enough to defeat God Goku, and with enough time for training, why couldnt't he? I agree that 4 months is not enough time to surpass God Goku and I don't think he'll surpass him like that, we still don't know what method will Freeza use.GokuRules987 wrote:What about when piccolo said during the battle of gods that just by powering up isnt enough to be able to compete with god? Goku is no longer a child with a power level of 10, Hes now a god! and he has the power that even if Freeza trained for million of years wouldnt be able to compete against him let alone only 4 months lol.
Also you said that nobody said that Freeza will compete with ssj god with only training? well technically I wasent actually talking about ssj god Goku i was talking about base god goku because technically Goku now has godly ki even when hes not a super saiyan god. during the Beerus fight he was even able to fight Beerus with only his base form which shows he technically doesnt need to transform into super saiyan god in order to have godly ki.
And unless you think there is a possibility that Freeza training 4 months later would prove him being no where near as powerful as Goku what would be the whole point of the movie? Freeza resurrects, Freeza trains 4 months, Freeza realized that Goku has godly power so he gets blinks away by Goku and movie ends? lol
If this movie took place in post cell saga maybe it would made more sense but at this point Freeza needs more than 4 months to even face against piccolo or gohan
Still what he said, 4 months to surpass Goku that defeated Buu is actually pretty accurate. Think of it like this: Goku went from battle power of 416 to battle power of over 8000 (without Kaio-Ken) with only 158 days of training, that's almost 20x the power-up, if Freeza can become somwhere between 10-20 time more powerful in 4 months, that would put him above SSJ3 Goku (I think), so it's not irrational.
And how could SSJ4 be less powerful than SSJG?
How can Super Saiyan 4 be 4000x the Base form?Kamiccolo9 wrote:No, they are numbers given in an official publication. I don't know where yours came from, but they have no backing from anything put out by Toei, Shueisha, or Toriyama.Kakarot9001 wrote:Aren't these numbers a little bit exaggerated? And how could SSJ4 be less powerful than SSJG?Bullza wrote:Super Saiyan is supposed to be 50x, Super Saiyan 2 100x, Super Saiyan 3 400x and Super Saiyan 4 4000x.
Super Saiyan God obviously hasn't been given any kind of multiplayer but it would be way above 10,000 too.
