Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Gonstead]

Ooh, today's official blog entry is a comment from Toshio Furukawa (Piccolo).

Furukawa's joking as his name being the "F" ("Fukkatsu no [F]urukawa") is pretty good. XD

Hah! That makes me think of instead of reviving Frieza, they revive King Piccolo.

[Herms]

Furukawa's comments now translated. Some interesting hints at the plot, I think:

Hey! Bulma here!
Just 50 days left until the movie debuts!
Today we’ve got a comment from the voice of Piccolo, Toshio Furukawa!

Dragon Ball has this image as a never-ending series: they continue to go on making all kinds of TV shows, movies, games, and other content, right up to this latest film. A series this enduring is pretty rare, and we voice artists are incredibly happy to be involved in such a crowning achievement in anime history.

The scenario for this movie is one I think only original author Toriyama-sensei could have come up with: centered on the charismatic villain Freeza, with lots of different characters getting a chance to show their stuff.

Dragon Ball features many charismatic villains, but out of all of them Freeza was most memorable. He’s the ultimate bad guy. So with him coming back to life, things are definitely going to heat up.

This time Piccolo has a big role too, and I gave the intense fight scenes all I had. It’s the Revival of “F”urukawa (laughs).

The highlights this time are definitely the battle scenes, with “battle” written in wild and crazy letters.

Dragon Ball is an endless series, and I hope all Dragon Ball fans will go on loving it for a long, long time to come. In any case, please enjoy seeing this latest film at the theaters!

[sintzu]

This time Piccolo has a big role.

This should have happened a long time ago but thankfully they're doing it now.

[Tennessaiyan]

Lots of different characters getting a chance to show their stuff? Piccolo has a big role? Crazy battle scenes? Aw yeah. This sounds awesome.

And of course Frieza is the ultimate bad guy!

[dbzfan7]

The scenario for this movie is one I think only original author Toriyama-sensei could have come up with: centered on the charismatic villain Freeza, with lots of different characters getting a chance to show their stuff.

Considering the billions of fanfictions that exist with this kind of plot, I highly doubt it. The bread is the same as every fanfiction ever, but the meat of the idea we'll have to wait and see if it's just as moldy as the bread idea.

This time Piccolo has a big role too, and I gave the intense fight scenes all I had. It’s the Revival of “F”urukawa (laughs).

I really hope this is the case. Unless he's just hyping Piccolo fighting a bunch of mooks as big. Which it isn't since a hand swipe takes care of all 1000 like Cell fighting the army. Still I'd love a big role for Piccolo. He's a cool level headed pickle man XD.

The highlights this time are definitely the battle scenes, with “battle” written in wild and crazy letters.

Sounds awesome considering it's all I have to look forward to. Any story news just seems to make things worse and worse for me. At least awesome battles can satisfy the dumb part of the brain, but not the part that likes a well done story.

[Retan]

Why don't you just give us the story already dbzfan7, since you seem to have already figured out, including the surprises Toriyama has up his sleeve.

[dbzfan7]

Why don't you just give us the story already dbzfan7, since you seem to have already figured out, including the surprises Toriyama has up his sleeve.

Go to deviantart or fanfiction.net. The premise is the same. Villain comes back, becomes stronger than ever, than fights our heroes. I said the bread is literally every fanfiction ever. The meat however is where things can be different. Just cause the meat is different, doesn't mean the general concept aka bread, isn't following the traditional rules of uncool. Seriously I bet people would still think it's totally original even if Broly were the one coming back, and he's the most commonly used for this concept. So much so I was once asked to write a story where Broly comes back and becomes stronger than everyone. I was literally asked to do this plot myself years ago, but since refused since it's not a good idea.

[ScholarGohan]

[bleed0range]

Yeah I'd suggest to not be so negative about the plot of which you know nothing about. They've really revealed almost nothing, not enough to get so upset and assume the movie is going to be bad. Have some faith, Toriyama never does the predictable thing. He's not just going to bring Freeza back, he's most likely got some twist on the subject or the cast wouldn't continually comment on it.

I never really can understand why people seem to think this movie has "fan fiction" written all over it but so many seem to support DB Heroes. If anything has fan fiction written all over it, it's the ridiculous character forms from that.

[Chuquita]

Re: Piccolo

I wonder if it's too much to hope we see the return of his stretchy arms power?
Piccolo had always had the specialty powers, imo. (Size changing, stretchy arms, clothes beam).

Re: Toriyama comic above

His dog! Is that a corgi? It's adorable. XD

Also, silly adult!Gokû pose, what is that? X3

[dbzfan7]

Yeah I'd suggest to not be so negative about the plot of which you know nothing about. They've really revealed almost nothing, not enough to get so upset and assume the movie is going to be bad. Have some faith, Toriyama never does the predictable thing. He's not just going to bring Freeza back, he's most likely got some twist on the subject or the cast wouldn't continually comment on it.

Battle of Gods and Minus have showed me his recent offerings, so no I don't have faith. I don't hate Battle of Gods, I do like it to a degree when I don't think about all the issues I have with it. Seeing how the same issues with Battle of Gods seem to be ready to reappear here, I don't have much hope plot wise. Hell the story of Xenoverse had me more intrigued. More about the new characters and how they affected time, over this. Toriyama is the kind of person who doesn't care about details. He's more about getting out fun ideas, rather than thinking them over and trying to tie them properly with his series.

[Retan]

Why don't you just give us the story already dbzfan7, since you seem to have already figured out, including the surprises Toriyama has up his sleeve.

Go to deviantart or fanfiction.net. The premise is the same. Villain comes back, becomes stronger than ever, than fights our heroes. I said the bread is literally every fanfiction ever. The meat however is where things can be different. Just cause the meat is different, doesn't mean the general concept aka bread, isn't following the traditional rules of uncool. Seriously I bet people would still think it's totally original even if Broly were the one coming back, and he's the most commonly used for this concept. So much so I was once asked to write a story where Broly comes back and becomes stronger than everyone. I was literally asked to do this plot myself years ago, but since refused since it's not a good idea.

And you think Toriyama is just walking into this blindfolded, with no idea what fans have come up with on their own? Give the man more credit then that, not saying he's ever read a fan-fiction but seriously, I'm sure someone at Toei, and others wouldn't be building it up if it was that simple. So far everyone who has read the script seems to love it.

[sintzu]

I don't hate Battle of Gods, I do like it to a degree when I don't think about all the issues I have with it.

Are these issues plot holes or plot points ? or both ?

So far everyone who has read the script seems to love it.

You know it has to be good if his first editor likes it.

[Retan]

I don't hate Battle of Gods, I do like it to a degree when I don't think about all the issues I have with it.

Are these issues plot holes or plot points ? or both ?

So far everyone who has read the script seems to love it.

You know it has to be good if his first editor likes it.

It's not just Torishima, I don't remember a lot of people praising BoG's script that much, but just seemed happy that Toriyama was willing to work on it.

[Retan]

What is this ScholarGohan?

[dbzfan7]

Why don't you just give us the story already dbzfan7, since you seem to have already figured out, including the surprises Toriyama has up his sleeve.

Go to deviantart or fanfiction.net. The premise is the same. Villain comes back, becomes stronger than ever, than fights our heroes. I said the bread is literally every fanfiction ever. The meat however is where things can be different. Just cause the meat is different, doesn't mean the general concept aka bread, isn't following the traditional rules of uncool. Seriously I bet people would still think it's totally original even if Broly were the one coming back, and he's the most commonly used for this concept. So much so I was once asked to write a story where Broly comes back and becomes stronger than everyone. I was literally asked to do this plot myself years ago, but since refused since it's not a good idea.

And you think Toriyama is just walking into this blindfolded, with no idea what fans have come up with on their own? Give the man more credit then that, not saying he's ever read a fan-fiction but seriously, I'm sure someone at Toei, and others wouldn't be building it up if it was that simple. So far everyone who has read the script seems to love it.

This is Toriyama. The guy cares more about fun ideas and utilizing them, over careful care with such things as continuity. The guy is known for shortcuts and being lazy. I admire that to a degree, but loathe what happens because no one is there to pick up that slack. Also my answer to that is, probably. Toriyama does what he wants more than what might make sense. Hence betraying expectation. However he does ideas for the sake he wants to, and I doubt cares a whole lot to try and fact check anything. Hell hence the meme "Beerus did it" was born from just shoving him in places he didn't belong, because he likes the idea over making it work. Most of his recent answers about characters can be argued he just pulled out of his ass. Not that they're bad, but really a lot of new tidbits can literally be just something he randomly thought up, over something more character driven.

[mAcChaos]

This is Toriyama. The guy cares more about fun ideas and utilizing them, over careful care with such things as continuity. The guy is known for shortcuts and being lazy. I admire that to a degree, but loathe what happens because no one is there to pick up that slack. Also my answer to that is, probably. Toriyama does what he wants more than what might make sense. Hence betraying expectation. However he does ideas for the sake he wants to, and I doubt cares a whole lot to try and fact check anything. Hell hence the meme "Beerus did it" was born from just shoving him in places he didn't belong, because he likes the idea over making it work. Most of his recent answers about characters can be argued he just pulled out of his ass. Not that they're bad, but really a lot of new tidbits can literally be just something he randomly thought up, over something more character driven.

We get that. You don't need to harp on it constantly. It just clutters up the thread when people just want to see news here.

[bleed0range]

Yeah I'd suggest to not be so negative about the plot of which you know nothing about. They've really revealed almost nothing, not enough to get so upset and assume the movie is going to be bad. Have some faith, Toriyama never does the predictable thing. He's not just going to bring Freeza back, he's most likely got some twist on the subject or the cast wouldn't continually comment on it.

Battle of Gods and Minus have showed me his recent offerings, so no I don't have faith. I don't hate Battle of Gods, I do like it to a degree when I don't think about all the issues I have with it. Seeing how the same issues with Battle of Gods seem to be ready to reappear here, I don't have much hope plot wise. Hell the story of Xenoverse had me more intrigued. More about the new characters and how they affected time, over this. Toriyama is the kind of person who doesn't care about details. He's more about getting out fun ideas, rather than thinking them over and trying to tie them properly with his series.

I wouldn't call the SSJ God transformation predictable at all. Nor would I discredit any originality in BOG, like Beerus who is a pretty original character in the series. The entire concept of Goku becoming a saiyan God was pretty original. I don't know what is really all that original about Xenoverse? Revisiting all the battles that already took place in the series? It's just a device to string together the series regular fights that already happened and put a twist on them. That sounds a lot more fan fiction to me? I dunno. You just sound like you're going out of your way to not give it a positive spin.

I also think you're making a lot of assumptions about what Toriyama cares about.

[dbzfan7]

Battle of Gods and Minus have showed me his recent offerings, so no I don't have faith. I don't hate Battle of Gods, I do like it to a degree when I don't think about all the issues I have with it. Seeing how the same issues with Battle of Gods seem to be ready to reappear here, I don't have much hope plot wise. Hell the story of Xenoverse had me more intrigued. More about the new characters and how they affected time, over this. Toriyama is the kind of person who doesn't care about details. He's more about getting out fun ideas, rather than thinking them over and trying to tie them properly with his series.

I wouldn't call the SSJ God transformation predictable at all. Nor would I discredit any originality in BOG, like Beerus who is a pretty original character in the series. The entire concept of Goku becoming a saiyan God was pretty original. I don't know what is really all that original about Xenoverse? Revisiting all the battles that already took place in the series? It's just a device to string together the series regular fights that already happened and put a twist on them. That sounds a lot more fan fiction to me? I dunno. You just sound like you're going out of your way to not give it a positive spin.

I also think you're making a lot of assumptions about what Toriyama cares about.

Predictable no. Also Goku becoming a saiyan god doesn't sound much different to me than SSJ(Insert number past 4 here). Also the form seemingly being done away with after one movie doesn't give SSJ God much of a good light. If anything it's like they wanted it gone as quick as it came. Toriyama even said he pictured the climax as SSJ Goku and Beerus, which makes it seem like he didn't want the god form to stick around. I hope SSJ God form doesn't just get tossed away though.

Xenoverse had me intrigued. It's final results were less than stellar, but things like Towa, Mira, and Demigra have far more potential...than this. They were kinda underwhelming in the game, but they're very intriguing. FnF is not very intriguing to me. Nothing revealed yet intrigues me. Battle of Gods had Beerus to bring the hype, as well as a new status among the gods. Freeza...is Freeza. He was interesting, but his time is over. His resurrection and everything around it so far looks contrived. Maybe he'll mean more, or just be fanservice in general.

Toriyama has always been like this. He forgets details all the time if they don't concern him. He does what he likes. His editors are the ones who keep him in check. His first editor had me stoked when he commented...but right now...these details man...they just seem to ooze with it's done for the sake of humour or cause I like the idea, over having it make sense with established logic. People argue we don't know everything, but is it that hard to explain a few things that really aren't plot breaking?

Only the small tidbits like Krillin being an officer interest me. What the earthlings lives are like is the only thing I want to know. Though I can see it being glossed over real easy as "Cause it just is what they do now".

[bleed0range]

Battle of Gods and Minus have showed me his recent offerings, so no I don't have faith. I don't hate Battle of Gods, I do like it to a degree when I don't think about all the issues I have with it. Seeing how the same issues with Battle of Gods seem to be ready to reappear here, I don't have much hope plot wise. Hell the story of Xenoverse had me more intrigued. More about the new characters and how they affected time, over this. Toriyama is the kind of person who doesn't care about details. He's more about getting out fun ideas, rather than thinking them over and trying to tie them properly with his series.

I wouldn't call the SSJ God transformation predictable at all. Nor would I discredit any originality in BOG, like Beerus who is a pretty original character in the series. The entire concept of Goku becoming a saiyan God was pretty original. I don't know what is really all that original about Xenoverse? Revisiting all the battles that already took place in the series? It's just a device to string together the series regular fights that already happened and put a twist on them. That sounds a lot more fan fiction to me? I dunno. You just sound like you're going out of your way to not give it a positive spin.

I also think you're making a lot of assumptions about what Toriyama cares about.

Predictable no. Also Goku becoming a saiyan god doesn't sound much different to me than SSJ(Insert number past 4 here). Also the form seemingly being done away with after one movie doesn't give SSJ God much of a good light. If anything it's like they wanted it gone as quick as it came. Toriyama even said he pictured the climax as SSJ Goku and Beerus, which makes it seem like he didn't want the god form to stick around. I hope SSJ God form doesn't just get tossed away though.

Xenoverse had me intrigued. It's final results were less than stellar, but things like Towa, Mira, and Demigra have far more potential...than this. They were kinda underwhelming in the game, but they're very intriguing. FnF is not very intriguing to me. Nothing revealed yet intrigues me. Battle of Gods had Beerus to bring the hype, as well as a new status among the gods. Freeza...is Freeza. He was interesting, but his time is over. His resurrection and everything around it so far looks contrived. Maybe he'll mean more, or just be fanservice in general.

Toriyama has always been like this. He forgets details all the time if they don't concern him. He does what he likes. His editors are the ones who keep him in check. His first editor had me stoked when he commented...but right now...these details man...they just seem to ooze with it's done for the sake of humour or cause I like the idea, over having it make sense with established logic. People argue we don't know everything, but is it that hard to explain a few things that really aren't plot breaking?

Well, we don't know everything. They may not want to explain anything because the movie will explain it when it's ya know, actually out! Freeza had his time, but that doesn't mean he can't have some character development. The idea of a villain training to become powerful is unique, because they never do that in the series. That's usually Goku's role. Also, someone who is more of a prodigy then Goku... that's new too... and it could have a lot of interesting ideas born from it. If you're open to it, but you don't seem to be. You've already made up your mind that Freeza can not have any further development and anything having to do with him is just unoriginal.