Are the female characters virgins before their husbands? Yes

[Ultimate_Nova_X]

Hi, I'm Ultimate_Nova_X, most of you probably don't know me, but it has been months, maybe a full year after I left this forum. Xenoverse is a great game, and it got me to start watching Kai's Buu saga too.

If you're wondering why I left,

Spoiler:

it's basically because I got into arguments with a few stubborn people about a Japanese source regarding Vegetto's battle power reading, and despite me being the only one who knows Japanese, they claim the source itself says something it doesn't, which shows an enormous amount of arrogance to go along with their ignorance. Disagreeing with the source is one thing, but saying it says something it doesn't just so it can conform your own opinion, is rather high of yourself.

But anyway, that's in the past.

I'm making this topic to try and bring up a discussion of whether or not the females, specifically Bulma, were virgins before they met their husbands?

My answer defaults to yes to all of them. Chi-chi, Videl are rather obvious. The only one that has more potential for controversy is Bulma, and I will post my arguments later.

For now, this topic is open for discussion.

EDIT 1: Just to get this out of the way, none of the things we say here will matter, these are just hypothesis. However, if someone brings up the question to Akira Toriyama, and assuming the latter will have to say either yes or no (and not keep it ambiguous), then it would more likely he'd say yes. And here's why:

1 - To keep things simple
2 - To not provoke the Vegeta, Bulma, and Vegeta/Bulma fans

[Valerius Dover]

Well, they weren't married before that point, so wouldn't they have to be?

[In Brightest Day]

Well, Bulma was in an on - off again relationship with Yamcha for years before she got with Vegeta.

[dbgtFO]

Well it seems unlikely from a real life perspective that Yamcha and Bulma would be together for so long and not get it on at least once during that time and Bulma would be a virgin until she was about 30 years old, but of course some people want to wait until they get married. Clearly Bulma and Vegeta didn't get married before making Trunks, but that's probably the one exception in Dragon Ball.

It's practically impossible to prove one way or another and Yamcha will probably get a lot of cheap shots for failing and I don't really care enough about this subject, so yeah.

[fadeddreams5]

Well, they weren't married before that point, so wouldn't they have to be?

You don't need to be married to not be a virgin. >.>

That said, there's a chance Bulma may have lost her's to Yamcha before Vegeta. I hear Yamcha lost his nervousness around women after he started a relationship with Bulma, so it only makes sense he'd hit the home run with her before he started flinging with other girls.

[Ultimate_Nova_X]

Well, they weren't married before that point, so wouldn't they have to be?

From an ethical ideology, yes.

Also, Roll is awesome.

[ZazamPow]

Bulma definitely wasn't, her personality is hardly the most reserved for a woman. The fact that she was willing to have at least a one night stand with Vegeta in order to conceive Trunks is enough evidence to indicate she likely did it with Yamcha and possibly a few other guys.

Chi-Chi and Videl on the other hand were most definitely virgins, self explanatory.

The guy's side follows the same pattern. Some people say that Vegeta might have been a virgin before Bulma because he's a Saiyan and only cares about fighting, so he never would have been interest in sexing up crazy alien people, but the fact that he was willing to take a break from training in order to do it with Bulma confirms that he has urges just like a human. Goku and Gohan's personalities are self explanatory, but since we've actually followed them for most of their lives, we actually know for a fact that they were virgins. Goku states to Bulma that she's the first girl he's ever met, so it would have had to be after that point, and after that the only times where he was off-screen for a considerable amount of time and therefore would have been able to have sex without us explicitly knowing were during his three years of wandering the world before the 22nd Budokai, and his training with Kami. For the latter we know that he never left the lookout, and I doubt Popo would be accommodating, and for the former... well I guess there was nothing stopping him then

Gohan was four when we first see him, and after that the only time he would have had to sex someone up would be the seven years after Cell (he was training with Goku and Piccolo constantly during the three years before the androids). Although IIRC we know that he rarely if ever left the mountains until starting high school, so again no-go there.

And yes, I know answering this question was a big waste of time.

[Ultimate_Nova_X]

Hopefully I can address some counterpoints to the positions saying that Bulma was not a virgin pre-marriage (and Vegeta too, though that would be easier), after I establish and post my own argument, eventually.

That said, I know this is a waste of time (not a lot of things around here aren't ), so I edited my first post under EDIT 1 which sort of touches on that.

In Kami to Kami, I just realized Pan is conceived technically before Gohan and Videl got married as well, though it's pretty obvious that they were married in all but name by that point. EDIT: I take that back, it wasn't stated what year they were married.

[DBZAOTA482]

Bulma definitely wasn't a virgin. I mean, it's even implied sex is/was the most pleasurable thing to her and she constantly threw her body at people.

I definitely think Chi-Chi and Videl were virgins though. Chi-Chi never met a boy before Goku and Mr. Satan wouldn't even let Videl be with a boy period though she may wanna disobey.

[Ultimate_Nova_X]

Let's try and refrain from using words like "certainly" or "definitely", since they're too strong when the best evidence we got are pretty much inductions.

Let's throw 18 into the discussion while we're at it though.

[DBZAOTA482]

Let's try and refrain from using words like "certainly" or "definitely", since they're too strong when the best evidence we got are pretty much inductions.

Let's throw 18 into the discussion while we're at it though.

Lazuli's hard to determine since we don't know much about her before she was modified by Dr. Gero but given she was a rebel before then there's a possibly she wasn't a virgin.

[DieHard]

Bulma definitely wasn't a virgin. I mean, it's even implied sex is/was the most pleasurable thing to her and she constantly threw her body at people.

That's when she was 16, and she said Goku was the first naked man she had seen.[PORNOGRAHPIC IMAGE REMOVED BY MODERATOR. USER BANNED.]

[Valerius Dover]

^When was this, though? She said was still underage (16) when the two Red Ribbon Army members were attempting to have their way with her.

[flashback0180]

Hmm.... Was videl married in bog, she was pregnant. But they were just in high school in buu saga... So we know gohan must have gone to college & stuff to be a scholar.

[DBZAOTA482]

^When was this, though? She said was still underage (16) when the two Red Ribbon Army members were attempting to have their way with her.

You mean her enjoying sex?

[Sylveon]

.... Does it really matter? It's just sex. Why not discuss the guys too? Did Kuririn get some before 18? Was Vegeta having wild alien babe sex in space before he and Bulma got it on?

But to answer your question, Bulma was almost definitely not a virgin since very few people make it to the age of 30 without getting at least a little bit of action, especially those who have been in a relationship for over a decade. Was she a virgin before Yamcha? Probably, since she had clearly never seen a guy naked. Unless she had a bicurious phase before the series began.

Videl could have had sex before Gohan. We don't even know if he was her first boyfriend.

From what little we know of 18's pre-cyborg life, she was a bit of a delinquent. I wouldn't be surprised if she'd gotten a bit of action. And then there's the whole gross Dr Gero's sex slave theory that I've seen discussed before.

[Kamiccolo9]

.... Does it really matter? It's just sex. Why not discuss the guys too? Did Kuririn get some before 18? Was Vegeta having wild alien babe sex in space before he and Bulma got it on?

It's already a well known fact that Appule is totally a space stud.

[Hitiro]

^When was this, though? She said was still underage (16) when the two Red Ribbon Army members were attempting to have their way with her.

I hate to break this to you but in Japan the legal age of consent is 13 as opposed to other countries where it is 16 or higher. So Bulma was not underage.

[Valerius Dover]

^When was this, though? She said was still underage (16) when the two Red Ribbon Army members were attempting to have their way with her.

I hate to break this to you but in Japan the legal age of consent is 13 as opposed to other countries where it is 16 or higher. So Bulma was not underage.

She told them flat out that she was underage, actually. Granted, she may have been lying.

[Hitiro]

She told them flat out that she was underage, actually. Granted, she may have been lying.

Are there two instances where she is approached by two Red Ribbon Army members? Because I just checked my manga and found what I think you're talking about. She doesn't say anything about being underage. Though if it is in the anime and dubbed I would imagine they would modify it to be more acceptable given that most countries have a more reasonable legal consent age.