Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Retan]

On Kanzenshuu it says that Vegeta say's "Your history." but on Anime News Network it says Beerus saying something similar instead. What's the real one? I'm just wondering and it doesn't change a whole lot, and they do sound similar, but which one is correct?

[Drayenko]

You know, I don't have any problem with Super Saiyajin God. I think it fits. The ritual, though, that's another topic on its own...

But speaking about Freeza I simply don't feel it. Don't see anything great about it. It, to me, feels as something that came out of devianART made by a 10 year old.

And no, I don't hate every new design made by Toriyama. SSJ God I feel is okay. Beerus design, no problem whatsoever. Whis more of the same. But the Golden Digimon, not feeling it.

[dbzfan7]

You know, I don't have any problem with Super Saiyajin God. I think it kind of fits. The ritual, though, that's another topic on its own...

But speaking about Freeza I simply don't feel it. Don't see anything great about it. It, to me, feels as something that came out of devianART made by a 10 year old.

And no, I don't hate every new design made by Toriyama. SSJ God I feel is okay. Beerus design, no problem whatsoever. Whis more of the same. But the Golden Digimon, not feeling it.

Personally my issue is, don't call it Super Saiyan God. Call it something else. Just call Goku "God Goku" and have the ritual just be called "The God ritual". It's called Super Saiyan God to pretty much bank on the Super Saiyan name. Kinda like Super Saiyan 4. Though Super Saiyan 4 is a far more worthy edition than God in my opinion to the Super Saiyan line up.

I know people hate the Kaioken comparison, but honestly if this was billed as something like "Perfect Kaioken", I think we'd all buy it pretty easily.

[RandomGuy96]

Golden Freeza? Dammit, I was hoping for white chest piece Freeza (anyone remember that?). Anyway, he now looks like Cooler mixed with Thanos. Seriously. I don't HATE the design, but it comes off as rather uninspired.

Don't really care about Jaco. I never read that manga. I am again disappointed that Pilaf is back, as he's not funny. I will only be not-disappointed if he obtains super god power and one-shots Freeza.

Nice to see the scene of Inexplicably Strong Seven Foot Tall Devil Man punching Piccolo in full. So yeah, it's exactly as crappy as once thought. It's not an off-guard hit, it actually hurts him, and it comes from a generic mook that's weaker than Dodoria. But Toriyama's involved, so I'm sure people will defend this anyway.

This trailer also seems to support the idea of Vegeta being the one to defeat Freeza. Can't say I like that idea. I'd much rather have him get tortured to death again, except this time just stay dead motherfucker. Well, actually, what I'd really like is for kid Trunks to pinch Freeza's head off, but that's not gonna happen.

[White Oni]

Goku has a different hairstyle as an SSJ. It's not hair waving around. Honestly if SSJ was designed with today's current mindset, it'd probably just look like this.

Spoiler:

AT's SsjG design was FAR more distinctive than his regular ssj design... So what are you talking about?

SsjG completely changes Goku's physique and forms a constantly flaming aura around him.

Ssj just spikes his hair up...

Not really. SSJ God makes him skinnier...and recolours his hair. The only real distinctive thing is the aura.

SSJ spikes his hair up, changes the colour, bulks him up a little, and makes him actually look like he wasn't just having a colour touch up by some folk on deviantart. SSJ Goku could even pass as a new character if we changed his outfit and no one knew it was a form. Show SSJ God without anyone knowing what it is, and it looks pretty much like a red skinny Goku. Hardly different from his normal self. I doubt many people honestly would call SSJ God a far better design than SSJ. Hell it's so bad, it seems they may not even use it again. For such a defining form, it sure left as quickly as it came. It was even shoved out at the end of the last movie for SSJ. I wonder why? It's good for game developers as they hardly have to do jack shit to changing Goku's model in games.

The more distinct and visibly different form is SSJG yet you really prefer Ssj, despite it's extreme simplicity...

Just give Frieza's new form a chance, you might surprise yourself with how much you'll end up liking it.

All in all, Frieza could look identical with different colored spheres on his limbs and face, and I'd love it if THAT transformation represented something powerful and awesome in the series.

On the other hand, if the design was very different and interesting looking, but it represented something bland and boring, I'd absolutely hate it and revert to viewing Frieza's original form as his definitive form.

[Drayenko]

Personally my issue is, don't call it Super Saiyan God. Call it something else. Just call Goku "God Goku" and have the ritual just be called "The God ritual". It's called Super Saiyan God to pretty much bank on the Super Saiyan name. Kinda like Super Saiyan 4. Though Super Saiyan 4 is a far more worthy edition than God in my opinion to the Super Saiyan line up.

Oh well, I have an infinite number of issues with Battle of Gods. But Goku's design is not one of them.

[Bullza]

Keep in mind that some of the comparisons above are with episode 120, which is possibly the best looking episode of DBZ:



and some are with 121, which is hilariously the WORST looking episode of DBZ:



I'd take episode 120 style animation over any other style, including the new CG style, any day of the week.

Wow that's a pretty night and day difference right there I never noticed that before.

[Drayenko]

You might surprise yourself with how much you'll end up liking it.

I'd rather not make assumptions for someone else. Yes, we will "eventually accept" it (not that I'm agonizing or anything), because you know, there's nothing we can do. But "liking" it, nah.

[EA575]

On Kanzenshuu it says that Vegeta say's "Your history." but on Anime News Network it says Beerus saying something similar instead. What's the real one? I'm just wondering and it doesn't change a whole lot, and they do sound similar, but which one is correct?

Kanzenshuu's. I mean, the translation comes from one who has been translating Dragon Ball for years and can easily differentiate between character voices while the other has a rushed translation in order to get an article posted and didn't bother discerning who's speaking.

[fadeddreams5]

Frieza should be the Lakers' new mascot.

[White Oni]

You might surprise yourself with how much you'll end up liking it.

I'd rather not make assumptions for someone else. Yes, we will "eventually accept" it (not that I'm agonizing or anything), because you know, there's nothing we can do. But "liking" it, nah.

Oh I didn't make an assumption, I made a claim...

And there's nothing wrong with that claim.

I might be surprised with how much I hate it.

That's a pretty open ended, non-judgmental claim... Not seeing an issue, I'm no trying to force anyone into liking it, I'm just calling people out who've already decided that the design is crap.

[dbzfan7]

The more distinct and visibly different form is SSJG yet you really prefer Ssj, despite it's extreme simplicity...

Just give Freeza's new form a chance, you might surprise yourself with how much you'll end up liking it.

All in all, Freeza could look identical with different colored spheres on his limbs and face, and I'd love it if THAT transformation represented something powerful and awesome in the series.

On the other hand, if the design was very different and interesting looking, but it represented something bland and boring, I'd absolutely hate it and revert to viewing Freeza's original form as his definitive form.

Go ahead and make a thread on which is more visibly different if you wish, I don't think the majority is gonna agree with you on SSJ God being the one that's significantly more different than SSJ. Make it on which was visibly more creative, I'm sure that'll turn to SSJ God's favour. By all means it's your opinion though. I guess a large amount of people were just blind since there was a huge pondering as to why the form looked so plain. Can't count how many people wondered why it looked similar to Kaioken. Highly doubt SSJ gave people these problems when it first appeared. Right away people could tell it was different. Even the characters in the movie first thought he looked the same on first glance. SSJ on first glance does not bring that issue. They even only say his hair is red and he's skinnier. That's the in-universe observation.

I'll do that while I look at the infinitely superior Freeza race characters in Xenoverse, that'd all be better picks than this.

All of Freeza's forms changed his look and standed on their own. His true form stood out the most among his forms as it changed the entire formula. Guess what? It's his most iconic look, the one that completely changed everything. This Super Saiyan Freeza hardly changes much at all. There are some changes, but not a whole lot to really stand out. That's my opinion. Others seem to enjoy it, so good for them I suppose.

[Herms]

On Kanzenshuu it says that Vegeta say's "You're history." but on Anime News Network it says Beerus saying something similar instead. What's the real one? I'm just wondering and it doesn't change a whole lot, and they do sound similar, but which one is correct?

It's definitely Vegeta who says "you're history". Beerus just says the line about how things are all the fault of someone (presumably Goku) being too soft.

[Retan]

On Kanzenshuu it says that Vegeta say's "You're history." but on Anime News Network it says Beerus saying something similar instead. What's the real one? I'm just wondering and it doesn't change a whole lot, and they do sound similar, but which one is correct?

It's definitely Vegeta who says "you're history". Beerus just says the line about how things are all the fault of someone (presumably Goku) being too soft.

Thanks Herms, and EA575. Good grief can't believe I couldn't recognize Vegeta's Japanese voice.

[Drayenko]

Go ahead and make a thread on which is more visibly different if you wish.

I THINK this assumption comes from the "Toriyama was lazy and Super Saiyajin is just uncolored hair;" therefore, some people mix the idea of SSJ being an "easier and faster way to draw" as "not different," BUT I could totally be wrong on this.

[dbzfan7]

Go ahead and make a thread on which is more visibly different if you wish.

I THINK this assumption comes from the "Toriyama was lazy and Super Saiyajin is just uncolored hair," but I could be wrong.

Therefore, some people mix the idea of SSJ being an "easier and faster way to draw" as "not different," BUT I could totally be wrong on this.

Well it was un coloured. However the hair style was completely different from base. They didn't want to colour it all black, so they changed it to white since manga's are usually black and white. Again even in the movie, they think at first Goku looks the same. SSJ at first glance didn't make Gohan go "Hm..he looks the same." Neither him nor Freeza had that reaction.

[Drayenko]

Oh yeah, I totally agree with you ^^.

[Bullza]

Anyone think all this hype will lead to a U.S. theatrical release by the end of the year, dubbed or subbed?

As much as i wish, i just cant see it before 2016. Probably late 2016 even. BoG was like 1 1/2 years nearly.

I think its entirely possible if the release dates for the other countries are anything to go by.

[shinmaru]

Earth is no more. hahaha this movie is full of drama

[SaiyanZ]

So has it been explained why Freeza keeps his body in Hell and why he comes back as pieces rather than in his full body yet? Or, is that still considered a plothole?