Are the female characters virgins before their husbands? Yes

[rereboy]

Ugh, I was hoping the guys were less narrow-minded this time around. I guess not.

If I'm gonna see people putting words in my mouth, then I don't think the people here are open-minded enough to have a rather healthy discussion here. Not to mention it's being derailed. I assume this is a primarily American site?

I'll remake this topic on another forum. Until then, I'll see you guys around (or not...)

Admin, please lock.

I really don't think that people disagreeing with you that sex should be preserved for marriage is being narrow-minded. Quite the opposite, actually.. Nor is pointing out that that opinion is old-world thinking.

People being flexible and realizing that marriage is just a piece of paper and that their commitment and relationship is not dependent on that piece of paper is what it means to be open-minded regarding sex and marriage. Narrow-minded is being inflexible about it.

So, in short, pretty much the opposite of what you are saying.

[Hitiro]

Compatibility in bed is made, not born. It's not about the sex, it's the commitment. But unfortunately many people are way too shallow to look past that. It's in the heart, not the body.

But this really isn't the topic for it. (There needs to be a Random Chat forum on this board).

You can't really manufacture your sexual tendencies during a marriage. They are a product of something psychological that have come about from how your psyche has developed over all these years. I hate anybody coming near my feet. It's horrible and disgusting to me. I could not stand someone touching and licking them if that is what they liked to do. So if I married a woman, or man, and found out that they have a foot fetish I should just accept that and let them do what they want? It's either going to be me suffering or the person with the fetish suffering because they can't act out what they like to do in bed.

So actually, your bed compatibility would be something that you've accumulated through your persona. It can't just be made to confirm to another persons ideals. Had I been raised differently I might not be so against feet fetishes. All to the people who actually enjoy that sort of thing, I'm not saying that it is a bad thing. I just want no part of it. I shouldn't have to accommodate my partners sexual needs or the other way around. Our sexual desires should compliment each other.

[TobyS]

Your preoccupation with exclusively female characters hymens is super creepy at best or super creepy and old fashioned at worst.

If you think people should wait to have sex in they are married that's your crazy business and I hope you don't end up with a sexually incompatible spouse when you grow up.

Your tone is hella obnoxious and snooty man, people gave you thought out breakdowns and you accuse them of being close minded just because they aren't projecting some weird dark age catholic guilt or sexual shame onto fictitious Japanese comic book characters.

Commitment is great and important (to those who seek it), but if doesnt take into account libido and sexual preferences. People who want to sleep around aren't immature its just a preference.

Scarz has it right, as healthy young super humans with enhanced physiologies they probably all bang like rabbits, but it (relationships) is just not something toriyama ever felt like writing.

[ParkerAL]

Neither side here is coming out of this looking particularly good. Can't we all just respect each other's values and ethics and refrain from insults like " narrow-minded" and " old-world thinking."

[VegettoEX]

You not liking how the conversation turned out doesn't mean you get to have a thread locked.

I hate to toss this word out there so often lately, but being absolutely insufferable is a sure way to get your thread locked and account warned, however.

[TheGmGoken]

What's the age of consent? Never heard of it. Is that a law?

Anyways. Not a big deal if they wasn't. It's just sex.


Bulma - Definitely not a virgin. Wouldn't be shocked if she slept with 4 other boys and none is named Yamcha

Chi Chi - Saved herself for Goku.

18 - I can see her being a forceful women that forced sex

Videl - Boys was scared of Mr. Satan. So no.

Pan - Perhaps lost it at 13

Bra - Bulma

Vegeta - I can see him raping aliens to prove dominance

Goku - I can see Goku accidentally having sex with Chi Chi. Though sex is natural. So maybe not.

Gohan - Videl

Goten - Average teenager

Trunks - See Goten

Future Trunks - Virgin for life or he banged Time Kai

Anyone else you're curious about?

Master Roshi -

[rereboy]

Neither side here is coming out of this looking particularly good. Can't we all just respect each other's values and ethics and refrain from insults like " narrow-minded" and " old-world thinking."

Old-world thinking is not an insult, unless its inaccurate and intended as an insult. And in this case it wasn't inaccurate or meant as an insult. The whole "sex only after marriage" is a clear example of a kind of thinking of the past and I was just pointing that out.

And for the record, its perfectly fine if a person wants to only have sex after getting married. Its his or her choice. But that's different from claiming that "sex should be preserved until you are married" and referring to it as a "moral issue" and a "matter of commitment". Its clear from his posts that he thinks that not having sex before marriage means that those people are more committed and perhaps even more moral/ethical. People responded to him because of that, not because he personally wanted to only have sex after getting married.

[sintzu]

If you think people should wait to have sex in they are married that's your crazy business.

I wonder if you'll still have this mind set when you end up with an STD.

Sex should be preserved until you are married.

Anyone who has an STD or kids who have no idea who their parents are will definitely agree.

[rereboy]

I wonder if you'll still have this mind set when you end up with an STD.

There's so much wrong with that sentence...

1- There's nothing stopping your wife / husband from getting a STD after marrying you and infecting you. Marriage doesn't guarantee luck, care or faithfulness at all.

2- Most STDs aren't exclusively transmitted via sex. Its perfectly possible for someone to be a virgin and have a STD. Someone can have AIDS and be a virgin. If you think being a virgin guarantees that a person is decease free no matter what, you aren't correct.

3- What actually prevents and combats STDs is the use of protection during sex and regular tests for such deceases whenever you are about to engage in a new sexual relationship. And that doesn't require marriage at all. An unmarried couple who is concerned about these factors and follows what I just said, is doing a better job at preventing STDs than a married couple who doesn't.

Anyone who has an STD or kids who have no idea who their parents are will definitely agree.

Regarding STDs, I've already talked about that. Regarding kids without parents, marriage and no sex until marriage also doesn't prevent parents from leaving the family and making the kid grow up without a parent. So, they will not definitely agree.

Honestly, you whole post was just a exposition of preconceptions.

[TheGmGoken]

I wonder if you'll still have this mind set when you end up with an STD.

You do realize animals have sex right? And shit me and my girl must have a STDs (something not to joke about) since we have an on again off again relationship for 5 years.

It's just sex.

[VegettoEX]

Let me be clear: while the original topic at hand is probably in somewhat bad taste the way it's been executed over the course of the thread, there's nothing inherently wrong about asking the question itself, and especially nothing wrong with discussing/critiquing the role of women in Toriyama's series, how it relates/related to larger popular culture at the time and in comparison to now, etc.

This thread is not being locked because someone asked it to be locked, it's not being locked because of the raw subject matter being discussed, but rather, it's being locked because the members conversing here do not appear to be able to do so in an adult fashion any longer. Your personal sex life is not something that needs to be or should be discussed here. Your personal attacks on each other do not belong here.

Find another place to do that.