The strongest earthling

[DieHard]

I think profile is saying a saiyan human hybrid like Gohan is stronger than pure saiyans, not that he is stronger than goku or vegeta.[PORNOGRAHPIC IMAGE REMOVED BY MODERATOR. USER BANNED.]

[Herms]

I'm referring to the Character Bio of Revival of F. Even if Gohan was stronger than Goku and Vegeta before Battle of Gods, saying he is still stronger than them is incorrect.

It does seem pretty clear that they just copied and pasted the new RoF website bios from the old BoG website ones as much as possible. There's quite a few bits that are word-for-word the same, including the "Gohan stronger than pure Saiyans" thing and the "Kuririn strongest Earthling" thing.

[Hitiro]

I'm referring to the Character Bio of Revival of F. Even if Gohan was stronger than Goku and Vegeta before Battle of Gods, saying he is still stronger than them is incorrect.

I would imagine he is still stronger than Vegeta. So I honestly don't see the problem there. As for Goku it could be possible that Base Goku is now under Gohan slightly. Even if that isn't the case doesn't the character Bio say that Gohan wields a power even greater than that of pure Saiyan's? That could just be referencing the Rou Kaioshins unlocked potential power. Not his actual strength in comparison to the pure Saiyan's. Because we know that "Mystic" > Any SSJ transformation.

[dalome]

I don't know for the power, but Krilin has very good skills. Even better than Tien

Krilin learned many techniques by himself. Kienzan ans guided blast( sayan battle).
He can copy techniques. He is the first to be able to fly like tien. He can use solar beam too.
He was even able to use genkidama.

Vegeta said that his moves were good.

Krilin almost killed Nappa and Frieza.

He is smart and brave. When Gohan is in trouble, he didn't wait before fighting Nappa, Vegeta, Dodoria and Frieza.

Krilin is a great fighter.

Tien is a Genius and has kikoho.
But Krilin is skilled too and is a hard worker.

[In Brightest Day]

Krillin pulled more out of his ass in dire situations than Tenshinhan did for sure. The amount of times Gohan would have been killed throughout the Namek arc if it weren't for him is extraordinary, as is the numerous amount of much stronger opponents who he caught off guard or outsmarted. The role he played against the Saiyans was also essential to victory there.

To me, Tien rushing in with the others to get beat down by Beerus, the Androids etc. more than anything suggests Krillin knows when to pick his battles, rather than Ten's supposed supperioty.

I'm not downplaying Ten either as he's shown some impressive reserves, skill and toughness when backed into a corner (Nappa, Cell), but Krillin definitely showed a more efficient tactical mind in battle.

[DieHard]

I don't know for the power, but Krilin has very good skills. Even better than Tenshinhan

Krilin learned many techniques by himself. Kienzan ans guided blast( sayan battle).
He can copy techniques. He is the first to be able to fly like Tenshinhan. He can use solar beam too.
He was even able go use genkidama.

Vegeta said that his moves were good.

Krilin almost killed Nappa and Freeza.

He is smart and brave. When Gohan is in trouble, he didn't wait before fighting Nappa, Vegeta, Dodoria and Freeza.

Krilin is a great fighter.

Tenshinhan is a Genius and has kikoho.
But Krilin is skilled too and is a hard worker.

This is great post. [PORNOGRAHPIC IMAGE REMOVED BY MODERATOR. USER BANNED.] Agree with everything, Krillin one of best characters.

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[Hugo Boss]

I'm referring to the Character Bio of Revival of F. Even if Gohan was stronger than Goku and Vegeta before Battle of Gods, saying he is still stronger than them is incorrect.

I would imagine he is still stronger than Vegeta. So I honestly don't see the problem there. As for Goku it could be possible that Base Goku is now under Gohan slightly. Even if that isn't the case doesn't the character Bio say that Gohan wields a power even greater than that of pure Saiyan's? That could just be referencing the Rou Kaioshins unlocked potential power. Not his actual strength in comparison to the pure Saiyan's. Because we know that "Mystic" > Any SSJ transformation.

It says that "... when it comes time to fight, he wields a power even greater than that of pure Saiyans." Then, it should mean that Gohan is more powerful than Goku and Vegeta, who are pure Saiyans.

As I said in another topic, and in this case the situation is much clearer, I don't think the entry has to include Goku and Vegeta, but the avarage pure Saiyans. So, the same logic I apply to Kuririn's stuff (strongest among Earthling warriors, the budokas who are below Kami in particular).

[Kamiccolo9]

I'm referring to the Character Bio of Revival of F. Even if Gohan was stronger than Goku and Vegeta before Battle of Gods, saying he is still stronger than them is incorrect.

I would imagine he is still stronger than Vegeta. So I honestly don't see the problem there. As for Goku it could be possible that Base Goku is now under Gohan slightly. Even if that isn't the case doesn't the character Bio say that Gohan wields a power even greater than that of pure Saiyan's? That could just be referencing the Rou Kaioshins unlocked potential power. Not his actual strength in comparison to the pure Saiyan's. Because we know that "Mystic" > Any SSJ transformation.

It says that "... when it comes time to fight, he wields a power even greater than that of pure Saiyans." Then, it should mean that Gohan is more powerful than Goku and Vegeta, who are pure Saiyans.

As I said in another topic, and in this case the situation is much clearer, I don't think the entry has to include Goku and Vegeta, but the avarage pure Saiyans. So, the same logic I apply to Kuririn's stuff (strongest among Earthling warriors, the budokas who are below Kami in particular).

"StrongER" implies a limited comparison. "StrongEST" means that it's talking about everything from that category. Your application is wrong.

[Hitiro]

What Kamiccolo9 said. It doesn't necessarily have to be talking about his actual strength. When it comes to fight he wields a greater power(Mystic) than that of the pure Saiyan's(SSJ transformations). It never says he is the greatest warrior that even surpasses the pure Saiyan's.

[DieHard]

Why don't you just admit you are wrong? [PORNOGRAHPIC IMAGE REMOVED BY MODERATOR. USER BANNED.]

[Hugo Boss]

It says that "... when it comes time to fight, he wields a power even greater than that of pure Saiyans." Then, it should mean that Gohan is more powerful than Goku and Vegeta, who are pure Saiyans.

As I said in another topic, and in this case the situation is much clearer, I don't think the entry has to include Goku and Vegeta, but the avarage pure Saiyans. So, the same logic I apply to Kuririn's stuff (strongest among Earthling warriors, the budokas who are below Kami in particular).

"StrongER" implies a limited comparison. "StrongEST" means that it's talking about everything from that category. Your application is wrong.

If Kuririn is the strongest among Earthlings, it means he is stronger than every other Earthling, no? That is how the sentence is presented, my application being right or wrong is not relevant at all.

What Kamiccolo9 said. It doesn't necessarily have to be talking about his actual strength. When it comes to fight he wields a greater power(Mystic) than that of the pure Saiyan's(SSJ transformations). It never says he is the greatest warrior that even surpasses the pure Saiyan's.

Mystic Gohan is not stronger than current Goku. He didn't let to be a pure Saiyan just because he acquired godly strenght. As Herms said, it's practically the same entry Battle of Gods used and even then I didn't give much value.

[Hitiro]

Mystic Gohan is not stronger than current Goku. He didn't let to be a pure Saiyan just because he acquired godly strenght. As Herms said, it's practically the same entry Battle of Gods used and even then I didn't give much value.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'm saying the mystic power itself is stronger than the power wielded by the Pure Saiyan's(SSJ Transformations). Not that Chou(mystic) Gohan is stronger than Goku. In that case, what is said by the bio is perfectly fine. Goku may have become stronger as a result of the SSJGod ritual. That doesn't change the fact that Mystic > SSJ3 transformation. As with what you quoted:

when it comes time to fight, he wields a power even greater than that of pure Saiyans.

[Hugo Boss]

I can understand if you are comparing Goku and Gohan before Battle of Gods. I just don't understand how you see "Mystic > SSJ transformations" by the current point.

[CordonBloo]

I was gonna say Kuririn yeah, he's the only human to have his potential awakened by the Great Elder. Tenshinhan might be close behind or somewhere even.

[Hitiro]

I can understand if you are comparing Goku and Gohan before Battle of Gods. I just don't understand how you see "Mystic > SSJ transformations" by the current point.

What's wrong with the current point? Mystic still gives the person SSJ3 level battle power at the cost of nothing. That is better than all SSJ transformations. Or are you considering SSJGod a transformation too? Because it's really just a power-up like drinking the super god water. Toriyama himself explains there is no need for Goku to return to that form as he has already absorbed the power into his base form. The only useful transformations left for Goku are the regular SSJ ones and even Toriyama said that Goku would stop using SSJ2 and SSJ3 now, as well because they have negative effects. If you chuck Goku the mystic power he wouldn't need the original SSJ transformation either and would be much more beneficial as it doesn't drain your power and it lets you surpass your limits.

Whatever you think of the form it still remains the best. Like how Goku, and Akira Toriyama, have deemed that the original SSJ form remains the best of the SSJ forms.

[Hugo Boss]

The current point is that Gohan can transform into a Super Saiyan and that Goku no longer needs Super Saiyan. Really, it's a matter of comparing SS Gohan and Base Goku. See? That's what the entry seems to suggest from a nitpicky perspective and I don't think it makes sense.

[Hitiro]

The current point is that Gohan can transform into a Super Saiyan and that Goku no longer needs Super Saiyan. Really, it's a matter of comparing SS Gohan and Base Goku. See? That's what the entry seems to suggest from a nitpicky perspective and I don't think it makes sense.

The entry seems to suggest that Gohan wields a power that surpassed pure Saiyan's power. It doesn't compare against just Goku here. It is also comparing against Vegeta. There is a difference between "wielding a power that surpasses that of a pure Saiyan'" and "his power surpasses the pure Saiyan's."

Jean Grey from the wields a power(telekinesis) that surpasses humans. But Batman's power surpasses humans. Do you see? "Wields a power" suggests exclusivity rather than saying his power, in general, surpasses others.

[Hugo Boss]

I don't understand what you are trying to say, really. It's not like we are talking about some other kind of power rather than battle power itself.

It's very clear in the sentence. It says Gohan's power when he fights is greater than that of pure Saiyans when they fight. If you think Goku and Vegeta are included in the sentence, you have an issue, because now Goku wields a power greater than that of Gohan, when it comes to fight. Vegeta might prove his worth against Freeza, just looking forward to it.

So, these Kuririn's and Gohan's entries should be taken with a grain of salt, imo.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Well, if you do want to take the bios with a grain of salt, which is fine, but there's still Toriyama and Yamcha saying Kuririn's strongest.

[Hugo Boss]

For example, if Tenshinhan do something more impressive than Kuririn in this movie, will you still think the word of Toriyama/Yamcha should be taken at face value; will you overlook it; will you try to find ways to make the claim have another meaning? Or anymore questions you want to add to your reflexions.