The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by AvatarReiko » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:08 am

Kid Vegeta vs Post-King Kai Goku (No kaioken)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:22 am

AvatarReiko wrote:Kid Vegeta vs Post-King Kai Goku (No kaioken)
Goku wins with considerable effort.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Bullza » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:47 am

Dabura vs Bojack

Frieza 100% vs Cooler Fifth Form

Android 16 vs Super Android 13

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Pantalones » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:08 pm

Dabura vs Bojack
If you see Dabura as >= Super Perfect Cell, then he stomps Bojack into the ground with almost no effort. Bojack was completely helpless against SSj2 Gohan while Super Perfect Cell could at least injure him with a blast and (after he was injured) equal his Kamehameha with one of his own; if Dabura is on that level, or above it, then Bojack shouldn't have any chance at all against him.

If you see Dabura as being closer to regular Perfect Cell, well... he probably still beats Bojack, but the fight more closely resembles an actual fight this time.
Freeza 100% vs Cooler Fifth Form
Cooler's more powerful than Freeza once he transforms (even if he isn't quite as strong in his normal/"4th" form), and his transformation doesn't seem to have the gradual energy-draining side-effect that Freeza's 100% power comes with. Unless Freeza gets lucky with his purple Kienzans, Cooler should win.
Android 16 vs Super Android 13
Piccolo was able to move Super 13 with strength alone (at least when he caught him off guard), while #16 was on par with the same Cell who took a full-power blast from Piccolo head-on and just shrugged it off. #16 should be significantly stronger.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:28 pm

Bullza wrote:Dabura vs Bojack

Freeza 100% vs Cooler Fifth Form

Android 16 vs Super Android 13
- Dabura one shots
- Cooler with effort
- Super Android 13 comfortably
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Pan (End of Z) vs. base Vegeta (Buu arc - pre-Majin)
Vegeta stomps
AvatarReiko wrote:Kid Vegeta vs Post-King Kai Goku (No kaioken)
Goku stomps
fadeddreams5 wrote:Chi Chi (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs. Mr. Satan (In his prime)

SSJ Goku (End of Broly movie #1) vs Perfect Cell (Full-power)

SSJ2 Gohan (Cell saga) vs SSJ2 Vegeta (Buu saga, but not Majin)

Master Roshi (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Cyborg Tao (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai)

Janemba (baby form) vs Hirudegarn

Super 13 vs Android 17 and Android 18
- Chi Chi stomps
- Perfect Cell stomps
- SSJ2 Vegeta with effort
- Master Roshi with effort
- Hirudegarn. Because Janemba can't insult him.
- #17 and #18 stomp
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:56 pm

Bullza wrote:Dabura vs Bojack

Freeza 100% vs Cooler Fifth Form

Android 16 vs Super Android 13
Dabura comfortably wins.

Cooler spanks his little brother.

#16 stomps.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super SaiyaJon » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:05 pm

Every character in DB history is lowered to the same level. Who, based on skills, abilities, ect., would win?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:07 pm

Super SaiyaJon wrote:Every character in DB history is lowered to the same level. Who, based on skills, abilities, ect., would win?
Super Buu, in his final form.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:14 pm

Super SaiyaJon wrote:Every character in DB history is lowered to the same level. Who, based on skills, abilities, ect., would win?
Roshi. I wanted to say Yamcha just to be silly but thinking on it, Yeah Roshi wins just on pure experience alone. Factor in his skill and you have a pretty heavy stomp.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:43 pm

He was so skillful that he was getting matched blow for blow at equal power levels by 12 year old Goku. That totally trumps infinite stamina, regeneration, magic, elasticity, pragmatism, and technique copying, surely.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:38 pm

Yeah cause it's totally not clear that Roshi was holding back in that fight till goku went ape. Then again yeah, Buu has all that but remember this includes everybody in what I assume is a battle royale. People would team up to eliminate buu. Heck Cell and Freeza would easily wipe buu then the fight would go without him. Battle royales are the hardest thing to figure out because you have to factor in so much. Who would form truces with who? What would the target be? Who would be the highest priority to drop first? Roshi would likely form a truce with the other Z fighters and deal with everyone else and then in a battle between the Z fighters come out on top. But if this is one of those everyone must be out for themselves battle royales that are boring, then either Buu or SP Cell come out on top. But with a tactical, truce forming, selective targeting one? Roshi comes out on top. :P
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:46 pm

Spiderman(Earth 616. Mainstream Comic book Spiderman) vs Dragonball part 1. Where do he stops?

Superior Spiderman DB gaulet. Where do he stops?

Teen Titans(TV show) vs 23rd Budokai Goku

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by mysticboy » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:48 pm

SSJ Kid Goku (King Piccolo fight) vs Goku (Saiyan arc)

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Post by Super SaiyaJon » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:16 pm

mysticboy wrote:SSJ Kid Goku (King Piccolo fight) vs Goku (Saiyan arc)
Goku (Saiyan Arc) wins with a smidge of difficulty. If he uses Kioken, he ROFLstomps.

EDIT: Well, he may need Kioken x2
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:21 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Teen Titans(TV show) vs 23rd Budokai Goku
Goku beats them all by poking them on their pressure points.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dyno » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:32 pm

Given all his amazing abilites Janemba showed up, he can win even in his base form against Hirudegarn.

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Post by The Monkey King » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:41 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Spiderman(Earth 616. Mainstream Comic book Spiderman) vs Dragonball part 1. Where do he stops?
Stops at the 21st BT or Tao
Teen Titans(TV show) vs 23rd Budokai Goku
Do you hate the Teen Titans or something? :lol: Goku stomps them all effortlessly.

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Post by In Brightest Day » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:04 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Spiderman (Earth 616) vs. Dragonball part 1. Where do he stop?
Spiderman stomps Goku, Yamcha and Krillin simultaneously at the beginning of Dragonball. Then Roshi speed blitzes Peter with ease.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:05 pm

The Monkey King wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Spiderman(Earth 616. Mainstream Comic book Spiderman) vs Dragonball part 1. Where do he stops?
Stops at the 21st BT or Tao
Teen Titans(TV show) vs 23rd Budokai Goku
Do you hate the Teen Titans or something? :lol: Goku stomps them all effortlessly.
I don't think he would effortlessly stomp the Titans. I think he would have some struggle against Starfire and Raven. Mostly cause Starfire is rather DBZ in her own way and well Raven...Well it depends which Raven, if it's White cloaked Raven after the Trigon event then yeah Raven would destroy Goku with ease. Regular Raven? That's a closer fight.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by The Monkey King » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:25 pm

voltlunok wrote:I don't think he would effortlessly stomp the Titans. I think he would have some struggle against Starfire and Raven. Mostly cause Starfire is rather DBZ in her own way and well Raven...Well it depends which Raven, if it's White cloaked Raven after the Trigon event then yeah Raven would destroy Goku with ease. Regular Raven? That's a closer fight.
Goku's too strong, too powerful, too durable and too fast for them.

What are the titan's going to do against a guy who's mach 20+ (with arguably lightning fast reflexes), has enough fire power to obliderate the moon and can shrug off attacks powerful enough to level an entire country while battle damaged.

I'll say you're right about White Raven though, regular Raven would still get destroyed with ease. But Starfire could perhaps put up some kind of a fight but Goku would still win soundly.

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