Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:37 am

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GokuRules987 wrote:To be honest i have a feeling goku and vegeta are going to both lose against Freeza. Heck we might even get a sequel but i would love if goku was the one that defeated Freeza once and for all with his SUPERMAN PLANET BENCHING, GALAXY SNEEZING STRENGTH! that he got from whis ofcourse ;)
Stop...please. You make us look like we want Goku to be some monster destroyer. We don't want Gokupotence. That's boring. Is it so wrong Goku isn't the strongest guy ever? Goku sure doesn't care. The more foes stronger than him, the happier he is. It makes him excited.
When Goku becomes the strongest in the multiverse, he's going to hit a state of depression that will force him to reflect on the years he missed out on with his friends and family.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by GokuRules987 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:39 am

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GokuRules987 wrote:To be honest i have a feeling goku and vegeta are going to both lose against Freeza. Heck we might even get a sequel but i would love if goku was the one that defeated Freeza once and for all with his SUPERMAN PLANET BENCHING, GALAXY SNEEZING STRENGTH! that he got from whis ofcourse ;)
Stop...please. You make us look like we want Goku to be some monster destroyer. We don't want Gokupotence. That's boring. Is it so wrong Goku isn't the strongest guy ever? Goku sure doesn't care. The more foes stronger than him, the happier he is. It makes him excited.
But you realize that Gokus original dream was to become the strongest martial artist in the world. The whole training that he went thru was so that he could win. If he loved losing so much what would be the whole motivation for him to train? Thats why i want goku to become the strongest character in the dragon ball verse, i want him to acheave his dream!
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Post by Herms » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:42 am

Bulma's blog updated.

So, you know how there was that scanslation thing a while back saying Toriyama was drawing a manga, which would be handed out to those attended the movie?

Well, sorry to disappoint you, but it seems whoever did that translation didn't know what the heck they were doing. According to the blog, what's getting handed out is a book containing Toriyama's script for the movie, design sketches, explanations of things, etc. Not a manga. There's also going to be some DB Heroes card thingy. More details are available on the movie's official site.

Now, I haven't seen the original Japanese Jump page that those scanslator guys scanslated, so I can't really prove that it didn't say something about a manga, but I'm assuming they simply mistranslated it, because both Bulma's blog and the movie's official site talk about these nifty gifts for attendees without mentioning a manga, which would be a pretty gigantic omission if there was one. I suppose maybe the people at Jump screwed up, or maybe the people running the blog and movie website screwed up, but I think it's pretty safe to assume that the random internet scanslator guys are the ones who screwed up. But I guess we won't know 100% for sure until we get a picture of that original Japanese page. Unless it's already up somewhere and I'm just a lazy idiot who can't find things.

I've got Friday stuff to do right now, but I should manage to get a full translation of the blog post up later.

(Also, sorry if this has been pointed out before. I didn't see anything about it, but it's crazy hard to keep track of this thread.)
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Post by Dyno » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:45 am

Herms wrote:Bulma's blog updated.

So, you know how there was that scanslation thing a while back saying Toriyama was drawing a manga, which would be handed out to those attended the movie?

Well, sorry to disappoint you, but it seems whoever did that translation didn't know what the heck they were doing. According to the blog, what's getting handed out is a book containing Toriyama's script for the movie, design sketches, explanations of things, etc. Not a manga. There's also going to be some DB Heroes card thingy. More details are available on the movie's official site.

Now, I haven't seen the original Japanese Jump page that those scanslator guys scanslated, so I can't really prove that it didn't say something about a manga, but I'm assuming they simply mistranslated it, because both Bulma's blog and the movie's official site talk about these nifty gifts for attendees without mentioning a manga, which would be a pretty gigantic omission if there was one. I suppose maybe the people at Jump screwed up, or maybe the people running the blog and movie website screwed up, but I think it's pretty safe to assume that the random internet scanslator guys are the ones who screwed up. But I guess we won't know 100% for sure until we get a picture of that original Japanese page. Unless it's already up somewhere and I'm just a lazy idiot who can't find things.

I've got Friday stuff to do right now, but I should manage to get a full translation of the blog post up later.

(Also, sorry if this has been pointed out before. I didn't see anything about it, but it's crazy hard to keep track of this thread.)
So excited to know what is that Dragon Ball Heroes related thing! :D

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:49 am

Herms wrote:Bulma's blog updated.

So, you know how there was that scanslation thing a while back saying Toriyama was drawing a manga, which would be handed out to those attended the movie?

Well, sorry to disappoint you, but it seems whoever did that translation didn't know what the heck they were doing. According to the blog, what's getting handed out is a book containing Toriyama's script for the movie, design sketches, explanations of things, etc. Not a manga. There's also going to be some DB Heroes card thingy. More details are available on the movie's official site.

Now, I haven't seen the original Japanese Jump page that those scanslator guys scanslated, so I can't really prove that it didn't say something about a manga, but I'm assuming they simply mistranslated it, because both Bulma's blog and the movie's official site talk about these nifty gifts for attendees without mentioning a manga, which would be a pretty gigantic omission if there was one. I suppose maybe the people at Jump screwed up, or maybe the people running the blog and movie website screwed up, but I think it's pretty safe to assume that the random internet scanslator guys are the ones who screwed up. But I guess we won't know 100% for sure until we get a picture of that original Japanese page. Unless it's already up somewhere and I'm just a lazy idiot who can't find things.

I've got Friday stuff to do right now, but I should manage to get a full translation of the blog post up later.

(Also, sorry if this has been pointed out before. I didn't see anything about it, but it's crazy hard to keep track of this thread.)
I linked to the CinemaToday article about this, which Julian saw on Twitter. It is pretty hard to tell what's going on, too.

I wounder how big this thing is going to be if Toriyama's script is being included...
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:50 am

GokuRules987 wrote:But you realize that Gokus original dream was to become the strongest martial artist in the world. The whole training that he went thru was so that he could win. If he loved losing so much what would be the whole motivation for him to train? Thats why i want goku to become the strongest character in the dragon ball verse, i want him to acheave his dream!
Goku would be bored if he ever achieved that. His purpose in life would be over.
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When Goku becomes the strongest in the multiverse, he's going to hit a state of depression that will force him to reflect on the years he missed out on with his friends and family.

Goku: Hey son, you want to do something later?

Gohan: Dad, I have work today.

Goku: Hey pal, you want to go fishing with your ol' man?

Goten: Sorry dad, I have a date today and some homework to catch up on later.

Goku: Kuririn! I haven't seen you in a while. You want to spar like old times?

Kuririn: Goku, it's been 3 years. And sorry, 18 asked me to look after Marron today. Nice seeing you though.

Goku: *Walks into the desolate fields* *He sits alone, pondering over his times with Grandpa Gohan*
Yeah pretty much. If he was strongest and uncontested, life would be boring for him.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:51 am

Herms wrote:Bulma's blog updated.

So, you know how there was that scanslation thing a while back saying Toriyama was drawing a manga, which would be handed out to those attended the movie?

Well, sorry to disappoint you, but it seems whoever did that translation didn't know what the heck they were doing. According to the blog, what's getting handed out is a book containing Toriyama's script for the movie, design sketches, explanations of things, etc. Not a manga. There's also going to be some DB Heroes card thingy. More details are available on the movie's official site.

Now, I haven't seen the original Japanese Jump page that those scanslator guys scanslated, so I can't really prove that it didn't say something about a manga, but I'm assuming they simply mistranslated it, because both Bulma's blog and the movie's official site talk about these nifty gifts for attendees without mentioning a manga, which would be a pretty gigantic omission if there was one. I suppose maybe the people at Jump screwed up, or maybe the people running the blog and movie website screwed up, but I think it's pretty safe to assume that the random internet scanslator guys are the ones who screwed up. But I guess we won't know 100% for sure until we get a picture of that original Japanese page. Unless it's already up somewhere and I'm just a lazy idiot who can't find things.

I've got Friday stuff to do right now, but I should manage to get a full translation of the blog post up later.

(Also, sorry if this has been pointed out before. I didn't see anything about it, but it's crazy hard to keep track of this thread.)
The script!? And sketches and explanations?! Image
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:52 am

Herms wrote:According to the blog, what's getting handed out is a book containing Toriyama's script for the movie, design sketches, explanations of things.
YEEEEEEEEEEES. This is what I waaaaant. EXPLANATIONS!!! So many explanations I want. Probably they'll go unanswered.
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Post by Dyno » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:55 am

Just a humble man dreaming: I hope in the middle of the "explanations" section, there will be a peculiar name... Chil... Led...
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Post by voltlunok » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:00 am

Dyno wrote:Just a humble man dreaming: I hope in the middle of the "explanations" section, there will be a peculiar name... Chil... Led...
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:05 am

dbzfan7 wrote:
Herms wrote:According to the blog, what's getting handed out is a book containing Toriyama's script for the movie, design sketches, explanations of things.
YEEEEEEEEEEES. This is what I waaaaant. EXPLANATIONS!!! So many explanations I want. Probably they'll go unanswered.
Explanation #1:
Why is Frieza's new form gold?
Well, I was thinking of a color I hadn't chosen for the major villains, and that's just the first one that came to mind. Plus, it makes him look...super! *laughs*

Explanation #2:
Why is Gohan a SSJ?
He became one during the android bit, I recall.

Explanation #3:
But he got a new power-up in the Buu saga, did he not?
Did he? You have to excuse me. I can be forgetful. *laughs*

In all honesty, I really want to read that little book. Hopefully the script gets translated.
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Post by Kakarot9001 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:09 am

THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! THIS IS THE EEEEEEEEEND!

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Post by bleed0range » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:12 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
Herms wrote:According to the blog, what's getting handed out is a book containing Toriyama's script for the movie, design sketches, explanations of things.
YEEEEEEEEEEES. This is what I waaaaant. EXPLANATIONS!!! So many explanations I want. Probably they'll go unanswered.
Explanation #1:
Why is Freeza's new form gold?
Well, I was thinking of a color I hadn't chosen for the major villains, and that's just the first one that came to mind. Plus, it makes him look...super! *laughs*

Explanation #2:
Why is Gohan a SSJ?
He became one during the android bit, I recall.

Explanation #3:
But he got a new power-up in the Buu saga, did he not?
Did he? You have to excuse me. I can be forgetful. *laughs*

In all honesty, I really want to read that little book. Hopefully the script gets translated.
That image someone posted of how the trailer's scenes mirror the original bits from the Freeza arc make me think his reasoning for Freeza being gold are simply because he is mirroring the SSJ form. It's ironic too. Here's the pic:

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:16 am

What if it ends the same way for Goku, and in the end... he dies, tragically? Or what if Vegeta goes rebel and betrays his friends for good? What if Frieza truly wins in the end?

We really have no way to tell how this entire thing will end.

*Thinks of EoZ*

Wait. Nvm.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:29 am

Why would Vegeta join up with Freeza or betray the others? There is no reason for him to do that, especially after the Majin Buu arc already did that.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:30 am

JulieYBM wrote:Why would Vegeta join up with Freeza or betray the others? There is no reason for him to do that, especially after the Majin Buu arc already did that.
Because "renegade for life".
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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:32 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Why would Vegeta join up with Freeza or betray the others? There is no reason for him to do that, especially after the Majin Buu arc already did that.
Because "renegade for life".
So, no real reason at all. Okay.

This isn't the Cell and Majin Buu arc Vegeta anymore. He doesn't have that much of a need to have his ego stroked.
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Post by bleed0range » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:40 am

JulieYBM wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Why would Vegeta join up with Freeza or betray the others? There is no reason for him to do that, especially after the Majin Buu arc already did that.
Because "renegade for life".
So, no real reason at all. Okay.

This isn't the Cell and Majin Buu arc Vegeta anymore. He doesn't have that much of a need to have his ego stroked.
His reasons for wanting to go Majin were not because of his ego but rather because of a disillusionment with who he was. He had for so long spit upon someone like who he had become and felt a loss of identity. He knew he had changed but had trouble accepting it so he allowed for him to become Majin Vegeta in an attempt to feel what it was like again. After living through that moment he realized the mistake he had made and that he no longer was that person and who he was wasn't as fulfilling as he had hoped.

It's the same idea as a mid-life crisis where a married man who has changed into a family man misses what life was like when he was younger and single. He may go through some embarrassing moments trying to relive those days before he accepts that he has changed for the better.

In any case, you're right. He has no reason to do that AGAIN since he has already gone through it.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:44 am

JulieYBM wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Why would Vegeta join up with Freeza or betray the others? There is no reason for him to do that, especially after the Majin Buu arc already did that.
Because "renegade for life".
So, no real reason at all. Okay.

This isn't the Cell and Majin Buu arc Vegeta anymore. He doesn't have that much of a need to have his ego stroked.
Vegeta has no reason to join with Freeza. Freeza or Vegeta aren't dumb enough to trust each other given the history between the two of them. Vegeta is betraying no-one in the movie.

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