The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:11 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:The 22nd Budokai involved more guys shooting lasers at each other, a three-eyed guy blowing up the arena, an old guy shooting another old guy Team Rocket style into the distance, and the dethroning of the previous champion. The 21st Budokai involved even more laser beams, and a kid turning into a giant monkey that destroyed the arena, and an old guy blowing up the moon.

When only "normal" Earthlings are participating, how is a tournament not going to be considered boring?
Either way it shows that Mark is merely a good (though ignorant) fighter and is nothing out of the ordinary. I'd say he's 5.5 with Videl at 6.

Anyways....

Kuririn (Saiyan Saga; Unlocked Potential, Pre-Kami Training) vs. Tenshinhan (Cyborg Saga)

Yajirobe (Piccolo Daimao Saga) vs.Old Piccolo Daimao

Base Gotenks (Pre-25th Budokai Training) vs. SSJ Trunks (Post-RoSaT)

Yamcha vs. Kid Chi-Chi (Emperor Pilaf Saga; With fighting skills) ; Then again I think we all know who would win Poor Yamcha

Farmer with Shotgun vs. Blonde Lunch ; Both unarmed

Goku and Vegeta vs. Common Sense
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:29 am

dbgtFO wrote:Does he?
In which episode?
*Correction: Upon re-watching and further research: that statement is apparently a myth :p
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Kuririn (Saiyan Saga; Unlocked Potential, Pre-Kami Training) vs. Tenshinhan (Cyborg Saga)

Um.. Tenshinhan, I guess?
Base Gotenks (Pre-25th Budokai Training) vs. SSJ Trunks (Post-RoSaT)

Did you mean Goten or Gotenks? And which SSJ Trunks??
Yamcha vs. Kid Chi-Chi (Emperor Pilaf Saga; With fighting skills) ; Then again I think we all know who would win Poor Yamcha
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Post by dbgtFO » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:30 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:Does he?
In which episode?
*Correction: Upon re-watching and further research: that statement is apparently a myth :p
Ah, that's what I thought.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:41 am

Kuririn (Saiyan Saga; Unlocked Potential, Pre-Kami Training) vs. Tenshinhan (Cyborg Saga)

Tien wins with effort.
Yajirobe (Piccolo Daimao Saga) vs.Old Piccolo Daimao

Old Piccolo Daimao stomps
Base Gotenks (Pre-25th Budokai Training) vs. SSJ Trunks (Post-RoSaT)

SSJ Trunks with effort
Yamcha vs. Kid Chi-Chi (Emperor Pilaf Saga; With fighting skills) ; Then again I think we all know who would win Poor Yamcha

Kid Chi Chi. Because Yamcha is a joke
Farmer with Shotgun vs. Blonde Lunch ; Both unarmed

Blond Lunch has much more itchy trigger finger. Not to mention she can pull guns out of nowhere.
Goku and Vegeta vs. Common Sense

Common Sense eventually retires from the battle heavily fatigued.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:25 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Kid Chi Chi. Because Yamcha is a joke
How about this? Kid Goku or Kid Kuririn (Both Son Goku Saga) vs. Kid Chi-Chi (Son Goku Saga; with fighting skills) ; It'd be a less one-sided fight, for sure. :wink:

Gohan (Post Z-Sword) vs. Oob (EoZ)

Base Bojack vs. Perfect Cell (Suppressed)
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:22 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Gohan (Post Z-Sword) vs. Oob (EoZ)
Two paths here:

SSJ2 Gohan (post-Zeta) >>> SSJ3 Goku >= Pure Buu = Uub >= Fat Buu >= SSJ Gohan (post-Zeta)

or:

SSJ3 Goku >= Pure Buu = Uub >= Fat Buu >= SSJ2 Gohan (post-Zeta)
Base Bojack vs. Perfect Cell (Suppressed)
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:32 pm

Kid Goku or Kid Kuririn (Both Son Goku Saga) vs. Kid Chi-Chi (Son Goku Saga; with fighting skills) ; It'd be a less one-sided fight, for sure. :wink:
Either Goku or Krillin could take Chi Chi quite comfortably.
Gohan (Post Z-Sword) vs. Oob (EoZ)
Gohan stomps
Base Bojack vs. Perfect Cell (Suppressed)
Perfect Cell stomps
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dyno » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:37 pm

Bardock (Dragon Ball Minus) vs Bardock (TV Special). :P
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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:53 pm

Dyno wrote:Bardock (Dragon Ball Minus) vs Bardock (TV Special). :P
Bardock wins.
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Post by Sandubadear » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:55 pm

Dyno wrote:Bardock (Dragon Ball Minus) vs Bardock (TV Special). :P
Bardock in Minus hasn't received a Zenkai yet, so the anime Bardock wins.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:11 pm

Dyno wrote:Bardock (Dragon Ball Minus) vs Bardock (TV Special). :P
It's a stalemate 'till Bardock (DBM) gets all worried about Goku then Bardock (TV Special) strikes him by surprise.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:13 pm

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Dyno wrote:Bardock (Dragon Ball Minus) vs Bardock (TV Special). :P
It's a stalemate 'till Bardock (DBM) gets all worried about Goku then Bardock (TV Special) strikes him by surprise.
Minus Bardock is said to not be able to become a mid class, meaning his power is, at the highest, 3,999 (as Nappa is 4,000.)

Special Bardock is said to be rivaling King Vegeta, who is around 10,000.

Special Bardock eats Minus Bardock.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:00 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But there is also a line in a guidebook that says that SS Vegetto is "perhaps" stronger than SS4 Goku (implying that they are at around the same level),[...]
Does it reference Vegetto in the Buu Arc? Or is it vague enough for one to interprete it as a hypothetical GT Super Vegetto?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:56 pm

^ I thought it could mean potara boost >= SSJ4 boost, not just Buu saga Vegetto >= SSJ4 Goku, since even though Old Kaioshin didn't say Goku was the "greatest ki ever", Baby Vegeta actually did say he had the greatest saiyan power
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Post by Kaboom » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:03 pm

Dyno wrote:Optimus Prime (G1 continuity) vs Piccolo Daimaoh.
Optimus Prime wins because he's Optimus Prime and nobody can tell me any different.
In Brightest Day wrote:- Avo and Kado vs. 1st form Freeza and Vegeta (vs. 1st form Freeza).
- Kibitoshin vs. South Supreme Kai.
- Monster Zarbon vs. Krillin and Son Gohan (vs. Ginyu-Goku).
Strongest character Tapion could beat?
— Avo and Cado win this one, I'm thinking. They're supposedly stronger than Freeza (right?), and Vegeta's only half as strong as any of them.
— Putting aside anime filler, we don't really have anything to judge South Kaioshin's power by.
— Gohan and Kuririn take this. I suspect the powers at work are all pretty similar, but they have an edge in both numbers and skill.
— Based on my totally arbitrary placement for Tapion, he puts up a good fight against 50% Freeza.
Dyno wrote:Megatron (Live-action continuity) vs Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
I'm guessing live-action Megatron can't blow up planets. I'm not sure because I haven't watched most of the live-action Transformers, and I don't care to do so.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Dabura vs. Cell (@ Goku)
Cell has a power advantage, but Dabra might be able to make up for it with magic tricks.
In Brightest Day wrote:- Perfect Cell (full power) vs. SSJ Son Goku (Buu arc).
- Bojack, Zangya, Bido and Bujin vs. Son Gohan, Vegeta, Future Trunks and Piccolo.
— Goku hasn't quite caught up to full-power Cell with just SS1 yet, so it's basically a repeat of their Cell Games fight.
— Bojack's crew seem to rely a lot on teamwork, and if the result of Gokua and Trunks' fight is any indication, they average as weaker than the heroes. As long as Gohan decides to not be sucky and fights Bojack seriously (and assuming that if Bojack transforms then Gohan gets to transform too), I'm thinking the "Z-Fighters" win this one.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Farmer with Shotgun vs. Babidi (no magic)
Bulma (non-cowardly) vs. Lunch (unarmed)
— Farmer. I'm betting without magic to protect him, Bobbidi can't take a shotgun blast to the head.
— Lunch has been in enough rough situations that I'm betting she's dangerous even without guns. She wins.
Dyno wrote:Gine versus Videl and Chi-Chi (when she was still a fighter).
Weak and meek by Saiyan standards or not, Gine is still a Saiyan nonetheless. The power difference will still be huge. Chi-Chi and Videl get beaten easily.
In Brightest Day wrote:Battle of the century: Sharpner and Puar vs. Idasa and Oolong.
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ShadowDude112 wrote:There is one thing that I always wondering. What would a hypothetical SSJ4 Gogeta vs Beerus fight be like? For me, I think he could go toe to toe with Beerus. Whis on the other hand, he'd have trouble with. But I feel SSJ4 Gogeta would be able to take Beerus.
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Humpski wrote:Who do we think is the strongest villain that Videl could defeat? Could she take out Raditz, or maybe even Nappa?
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Sandubadear wrote:Old King Piccolo vs. Android 8?
My money's on Piccolo.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Kuririn (Saiyan Saga; Unlocked Potential, Pre-Kami Training) vs. Tenshinhan (Cyborg Saga)
Yajirobe (Piccolo Daimao Saga) vs.Old Piccolo Daimao
Base Gotenks (Pre-25th Budokai Training) vs. SSJ Trunks (Post-RoSaT)
Yamcha vs. Kid Chi-Chi (Emperor Pilaf Saga; With fighting skills) ; Then again I think we all know who would win Poor Yamcha
Farmer with Shotgun vs. Blonde Lunch ; Both unarmed
Goku and Vegeta vs. Common Sense
— There's no good way to predict the outcome of someone's "unlocked potential." But I'm going to say Kuririn kicks Ten's ass anyway.
— If Goku couldn't beat Ol' Piccolo, then Yajirobe can't either.
— Gotenks gets his butt whooped and it's hilarious.
— Yeah, Yamcha wins. Shockingly.
— Just like with the Bulma matchup, I'm going to give this one to Lunch because she's a tough chick with or without guns. She's probably had to fist-fight here way out of trouble before.
— There are no survivors.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Kid Goku or Kid Kuririn (Both Son Goku Saga) vs. Kid Chi-Chi (Son Goku Saga; with fighting skills)
Gohan (Post Z-Sword) vs. Oob (EoZ)
Base Bojack vs. Perfect Cell (Suppressed)
— My money's on Goku and Kuririn.
— Gohan. I don't think Oob necessarily displayed a full Pure Boo amount of power, and even if he did, he's not in control of it yet.
— They're similar in power, but Cell's regeneration and repertoire of moves gives him an edge.
Dyno wrote:Bardock (Dragon Ball Minus) vs Bardock (TV Special). :P
It would probably take a team of 3 or 4 cooperative Minus-Bardocks to take down anime-Bardock.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:08 pm

base Future Trunks (post-1st day RoSaT) vs. 70% Freeza
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Post by Dyno » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:10 pm

Kaboom wrote:Optimus Prime wins because he's Optimus Prime and nobody can tell me any different.
Couldn't agree more.

Kaboom wrote:I'm guessing live-action Megatron can't blow up planets. I'm not sure because I haven't watched most of the live-action Transformers, and I don't care to do so.
No. Live-action Transformers are way too nerf. Kinda sad. :(
Kaboom wrote:It would probably take a team of 3 or 4 cooperative Minus-Bardocks to take down anime-Bardock.
Pretty much. :lol:
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Post by Sandubadear » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:13 pm

Mutaito vs Grandpa Gohan
Raspberry vs. King Chappa
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:33 pm

Sandubadear wrote:Raspberry vs. King Chappa
Raspberry makes King Chappa into a tasty pastry snack.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Post by Sandubadear » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:42 pm

Isn't Raspberry really weak?
"The life is the hardest video games of ever. Because you have only one life and the powers are kinda lame. And sometimes a stage takes years"

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