How can SSJ be the essence of the series when well more than half the series, SSJ didn't even exist? Of the 42 volumes of the manga, it takes to volume 27 for our first Super Saiyan to appear. Pretty sure something has to exist for at least half of a series to be the "essence".Kakarot9001 wrote:I hate the main Saiyans fighting in their base form, I like Super Saiyans transformations and the Super Saiyan itself is the essence of the series, that's why one of the most memorable episodes is when Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan for the first time.
Toriyama trying to make us forget these wonderful transformations is just LAME
Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
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Future Trunks? Color me curious. I wonder what it says...
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The whole point of this kind of manga is...Mewzard wrote:Future Trunks? Color me curious. I wonder what it says...
How can SSJ be the essence of the series when well more than half the series, SSJ didn't even exist? Of the 42 volumes of the manga, it takes to volume 27 for our first Super Saiyan to appear. Pretty sure something has to exist for at least half of a series to be the "essence".Kakarot9001 wrote:I hate the main Saiyans fighting in their base form, I like Super Saiyans transformations and the Super Saiyan itself is the essence of the series, that's why one of the most memorable episodes is when Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan for the first time.
Toriyama trying to make us forget these wonderful transformations is just LAME
Bad guy is super strong.
Good guy is not as strong.
Bad guy kicks good guy around.
Good guy trains and becomes stronger.
Bad guy can't win.
Bad guy gains some kind of power up or upper hand unexpectedly!
Oh no! Now bad guy is stronger then good guy!
Good guy does something to be stronger then bad guy!
.... on and on until good guy wins. It's almost funny during the buu arc. But my point is that it doesn't matter if it's super saiyan, a new attack or ability or just getting stronger. It's just about working hard to better themselves and win the day. All of early Dragon Ball didn't need SSJ transformations to convey the same feelings and be awesome.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
Site updated with today's blog post translation:
Hey, Bulma here!
The premiere’s just 37 days away!
Today we’ve got…ohoho, now this is a surprise.
I’ve received a letter from Trunks…the one in the future!
I wonder how handsome he’s become!
Hoping this letter finds you well, mother
I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…
But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.
No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.
Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.
I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.
My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks
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We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.
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We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.
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Did we ever get anything from Ryo Horikawa?
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Until now, the thought hadn't really crossed my mind about how much I'd like to see "Future Trunks" return just to get a gauge on how he perceives the changes in these characters. It would also be interesting to see him run into his own alternate timeline self haha. But really, how is Trunks sending letters through time!? haha. Where did this rumor come from? lol.Herms wrote:Site updated with today's blog post translation:Hey, Bulma here!
The premiere’s just 37 days away!
Today we’ve got…ohoho, now this is a surprise.
I’ve received a letter from Trunks…the one in the future!
I wonder how handsome he’s become!
Hoping this letter finds you well, mother
I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…
But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.
No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.
Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.
I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.
My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks
In any case, I actually really enjoyed that one.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
The stuff bolded red makes that rumor about Vegeta punching Frieza out of existence quite plausible.Herms wrote:Site updated with today's blog post translation:Hey, Bulma here!
The premiere’s just 37 days away!
Today we’ve got…ohoho, now this is a surprise.
I’ve received a letter from Trunks…the one in the future!
I wonder how handsome he’s become!
Hoping this letter finds you well, mother
I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…
But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.
No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.
Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.
I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.
My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks
The stuff bolded blue... why is it not possible anymore?
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
Weird. Why is he worried? He knows Freeza is a weakling. Also, him not knowing how Freeza could possibly come back doesn't make any sense.Herms wrote:Site updated with today's blog post translation:Hey, Bulma here!
The premiere’s just 37 days away!
Today we’ve got…ohoho, now this is a surprise.
I’ve received a letter from Trunks…the one in the future!
I wonder how handsome he’s become!
Hoping this letter finds you well, mother
I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…
But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.
No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.
Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.
I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.
My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
I'm reminded of why I felt so sad when Future Trunks left at the end of the Cell arc. I really missed him.
I gather from his letter though time that he won't be joining the cast this movie outside of flashbacks.
I gather from his letter though time that he won't be joining the cast this movie outside of flashbacks.
On hiatus.
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It's all just marketing. Don't try to think too hard about it. It really doesn't have to make sense.RandomGuy96 wrote:Weird. Why is he worried? He knows Freeza is a weakling. Also, him not knowing how Freeza could possibly come back doesn't make any sense.Herms wrote:Site updated with today's blog post translation:Hey, Bulma here!
The premiere’s just 37 days away!
Today we’ve got…ohoho, now this is a surprise.
I’ve received a letter from Trunks…the one in the future!
I wonder how handsome he’s become!
Hoping this letter finds you well, mother
I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…
But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.
No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.
Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.
I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.
My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
I'm aware of that. These were probably written by a low level peon, too. I just think it's fun to nitpick them.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
Not yet.Retan wrote:Did we ever get anything from Ryo Horikawa?
My personal guess is his contains spoilers related to Chapter 2 of Toyotaro's manga adaption, (or Chapter 3) so we have to wait for VJump.
On hiatus.
Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
Aw no Future Trunks. BOOOOO! That's lame.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
Chuquita wrote:Not yet.Retan wrote:Did we ever get anything from Ryo Horikawa?
My personal guess is his contains spoilers related to Chapter 2 of Toyotaro's manga adaption, (or Chapter 3) so we have to wait for VJump.
When does chapter 2 come out again?
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
Dangit, Trunks, why do you have to be so hard on yourself? After this makes me feel even more sorry for him 
Technically, it's not canon, but still. Bulma MADE the time machine. Blame her! Lol
Spoiler:
Technically, it's not canon, but still. Bulma MADE the time machine. Blame her! Lolmogi67 wrote:I kind of view Dragon Ball the same way I view mythology. It can be convoluted, contradictory, but always a treasure.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
It would be interesting to see what threats may present themselves in future trunks timeline. Wait, doesn't new namek exist in his timeline too? Couldn't he have wished everyone back to life? I only just thought Of that.
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A large group of people has to be within a year I believe.bleed0range wrote:It would be interesting to see what threats may present themselves in future trunks timeline. Wait, doesn't new namek exist in his timeline too? Couldn't he have wished everyone back to life? I only just thought Of that.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
Who would think that somebody would use the DBs to revive Freeza of all people.RandomGuy96 wrote:Weird. Why is he worried? He knows Freeza is a weakling. Also, him not knowing how Freeza could possibly come back doesn't make any sense.Herms wrote:Site updated with today's blog post translation:Hey, Bulma here!
The premiere’s just 37 days away!
Today we’ve got…ohoho, now this is a surprise.
I’ve received a letter from Trunks…the one in the future!
I wonder how handsome he’s become!
Hoping this letter finds you well, mother
I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…
But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.
No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.
Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.
I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.
My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks
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I guess "Burning Attack" wasn't a very good attack for Trunks to use. 
Not only was Dr. Gero able to make Cell from Freeza's tissue, the dragon was able to piece back Freeza's remains.
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Because he got a stern warning over it from the Kaioshin of Time.fadeddreams5 wrote:The stuff bolded blue... why is it not possible anymore?
(The Galactic Patrol doesn't look kindly on time-travel either.)Co-translator, Man-in-Japan, and Julian #1 at Kanzenshuu
最近、あんまし投稿してないねんけど、見てんで。いっつも見てる。
最近、あんまし投稿してないねんけど、見てんで。いっつも見てる。
Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"
Next Friday is the street date, but spoilers could appear as early as Wednesday.Retan wrote:Chuquita wrote:Not yet.Retan wrote:Did we ever get anything from Ryo Horikawa?
My personal guess is his contains spoilers related to Chapter 2 of Toyotaro's manga adaption, (or Chapter 3) so we have to wait for VJump.
When does chapter 2 come out again?
On hiatus.