Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by sintzu » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:15 pm

Chuquita wrote:
That was a monster tease.
*Anxiously waits for transformation to finish. Finishes. No magenta hair. Head desks.*
He has the Magenta hair in the poster so we'll probably see it in the movie.

Maybe it turns to that when he charges his ki ? or when he absorbs an attack like he did in BOG ?
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Post by Dyno » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:21 pm

Man, it is so... I don't know. Not even a change, if Ultimate Son Gohan we could barely say what changed in that form, that Kakarot does not even change at all. His hair is the same, his expression is the same... :?

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:04 pm

Doctor. wrote:I know you're a Vegeta fan and all but I recommend lowering your expectations because if you end up going to the movie, and Vegeta is not the main star at all, you'll hate the movie even if it turns out to be good.
And listening to nonstop Vegeta fanboying in every post is annoying.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by sintzu » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:07 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:I know you're a Vegeta fan and all but I recommend lowering your expectations because if you end up going to the movie, and Vegeta is not the main star at all, you'll hate the movie even if it turns out to be good.
And listening to nonstop Vegeta fanboying in every post is annoying.
It'll be more annoying on the 30th of this month.
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Post by Kakarot9001 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:09 pm

Mewzard wrote:How can SSJ be the essence of the series when well more than half the series, SSJ didn't even exist? Of the 42 volumes of the manga, it takes to volume 27 for our first Super Saiyan to appear. Pretty sure something has to exist for at least half of a series to be the "essence".
Please... Don't play that on me, if you want to consider only the manga. Okay, not problem with that... But "The Super Saiyan essence" goes
far beyond that, you know... What are the first words to come up in our minds when we talk about DB/Z/GT? Yes...
Goku, Super Saiyans, Story, Vegeta, Battles, Epic Scenes, Power and etc.

If we take into account all the media, anime episodes, movies, specials, OVAs, videogames, parodies we get at the easy conclusion that Super Saiyan is in fact the essence of the series in overall.
shinmaru wrote:Ditching Super Saiyan 2 and 3 Is good if we get more DBZ. I think thats the reason why Tori is ditching those transformations.
Of course not! I would prefer no more DBZ if we had a Saga without Super Saiyans. I don't want any new transformation I just want the original one, SSJ2 and SSJ3! They deserve more consideration from the author itself and TOEI (who loves to forget about SSJ2)
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:14 pm

Kakarot9001 wrote:
Mewzard wrote:How can SSJ be the essence of the series when well more than half the series, SSJ didn't even exist? Of the 42 volumes of the manga, it takes to volume 27 for our first Super Saiyan to appear. Pretty sure something has to exist for at least half of a series to be the "essence".
Please... Don't play that on me, if you want to consider only the manga. Okay, not problem with that... But "The Super Saiyan essence" goes
far beyond that, you know... What are the first words to come up in our minds when we talk about DB/Z/GT? Yes...
Goku, Super Saiyans, Story, Vegeta, Battles, Epic Scenes, Power and etc.
I ask 3 random people what they think of when they hear "DBZ," and they say "weird hair, right?" "lots of screaming," and "5 minutes."
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Post by dbgtFO » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:20 pm

I gotta say I love Goku and Vegeta's new outfits, but I think I might like these revisions a Little more, though Vegeta's might be a bit over the top:
http://drabounz.deviantart.com/art/dbz- ... -515754603

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Post by Kakarot9001 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:03 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:I ask 3 random people what they think of when they hear "DBZ," and they say "weird hair, right?" "lots of screaming," and "5 minutes."
I was referring to people who actually are fans of the series lol

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:05 pm

Kakarot9001 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I ask 3 random people what they think of when they hear "DBZ," and they say "weird hair, right?" "lots of screaming," and "5 minutes."
I was referring to people who actually are fans of the series lol
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I ask 3 random fans of the series what they think of when they hear "DBZ," and they say "Muffin Button" "lots of screaming," and "5 minutes."
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:13 pm

Kakarot9001 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I ask 3 random people what they think of when they hear "DBZ," and they say "weird hair, right?" "lots of screaming," and "5 minutes."
I was referring to people who actually are fans of the series lol

I texted 3 anime fans and Kik a YouTube friend.

I got "Gohan, Kamehamha, and screaming", "Goku, SsJ forms, and Freeza", and "Kamehameha, Sprit Bomb, and FINAL FLASH!".

And of course the usual over 9,000

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Post by Kishido » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:19 pm

An other question... IF the rumor ending should be the true one I hope the movie itself will state that Vegeta's "form" will be SS god or whatever.

Why?

1. Cuz blue tint in hair would match Goku's red tint in hair... Or coud you see Goku getting the same state as Vegeta in the next movie and having blue hair? Most likely not

2. Peronally I would suck to see another transformation... Alone the name Super Saiyan GOD is showing that it should be the end... Or how would you call it. Super Saiyan God 2?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:21 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Kakarot9001 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I ask 3 random people what they think of when they hear "DBZ," and they say "weird hair, right?" "lots of screaming," and "5 minutes."
I was referring to people who actually are fans of the series lol

I texted 3 anime fans and Kik a YouTube friend.

I got "Gohan, Kamehamha, and screaming", "Goku, SsJ forms, and Freeza", and "Kamehameha, Sprit Bomb, and FINAL FLASH!".

And of course the usual over 9,000
Yeah, that sounds about right. :wink:

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:22 pm

Kishido wrote:An other question... IF the rumor ending should be the true one I hope the movie itself will state that Vegeta's "form" will be SS god or whatever.

Why?

1. Cuz blue tint in hair would match Goku's red tint in hair... Or coud you see Goku getting the same state as Vegeta in the next movie and having blue hair? Most likely not

2. Peronally I would suck to see another transformation... Alone the name Super Saiyan GOD is showing that it should be the end... Or how would you call it. Super Saiyan God 2?
Super Saiyan Titan.
Super Saiyan Omega.
THE Super Saiyan.
Super Saiyan Prime.
Etc.

Of course, these all suck, but this is the franchise that gave us "Super Saiyan (insert number here)," Super Vegetto" and "Super Saiyan Grade (insert number here.)"
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Post by Low Tone G » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:23 pm

Kishido wrote:An other question... IF the rumor ending should be the true one I hope the movie itself will state that Vegeta's "form" will be SS god or whatever.

Why?

1. Cuz blue tint in hair would match Goku's red tint in hair... Or coud you see Goku getting the same state as Vegeta in the next movie and having blue hair? Most likely not

2. Peronally I would suck to see another transformation... Alone the name Super Saiyan GOD is showing that it should be the end... Or how would you call it. Super Saiyan God 2?
No, that blue version would be the Ultimate Daimond Evolution Saiyan form as the daimond is tougher than the gold.
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Post by Kishido » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:24 pm

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Post by Dyno » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:26 pm

I had to rely on Dragon Ball wiki, and they say it is "God Goku", in other words, it is the same as "mystic" for Son Gohan indeed, just the power comes from the transformation, you can access it in your base form, that is why there is no change at all. I translated the "transformation" section from that Kakarot's card on Google translator and it says "Saiyan beyond God", or something like that.

With these pieces of information, I can't see further transformations, the max we're gonna see is Super Saiyan, and even that being said, the probability is almost 0 of it to appear again, but we shall see that. It is really insteresting, though not exciting.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:29 pm

Dyno wrote:I had to rely on Dragon Ball wiki
Don't.

I say this with all due respect, because there is at least one person trying to do good there, but don't.
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Post by Dyno » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:34 pm

Now I'm like Chuquita, hungry for information and explanation. What if Dragon Ball wiki is right? What if Kakarot has indeed this "God Goku" form which Dragon Ball Heroes has shown to us?

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Post by mAcChaos » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:34 pm

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No one cares that Freeza trained and got stronger. It's the fact he trained for FOUR MONTHS and is already stronger then SSJ God.
Yeah but how much time passed between when Goku left for Namek and when he fought Freeza? How much stronger did he get? It was a ridiculous level of strength gained. Freeza's power level at 100% pure final form was on a level that no one could touch and yet Goku miraculously was able to do so in a short amount of time.

According to the DB timeline... Goku is hospitalized from his fight with Vegeta (which was on Nov. 3rd), November 4th of Age 762. Goku leaves for Namek on December 18 of Age 762 and completes his training under 100x gravity by December 23rd. Goku transforms into a SSJ on December 24th. That means in a span of just over a month Goku went from his power level fighting the saiyans to Freeza's level and beyond. The difference in their power between when he left and when he defeated Freeza was about as astronomical as this.

To put things in perspective. Radditz arrived only one year before that when everyone's power levels were below 1000. It's not that hard to believe.

The perceived strength of SSJ3 Goku vs. Beerus is unknown. Goku could have been completely defeated by a flick of Freeza's finger if Freeza had run into him when Radditz did. Freeza was like a million times stronger. Goku was able to close-in on that in about a year. Most of that in just about a month.
Goku's power level only went up from 30,000 to almost 200,000 in that month he trained on his way to Namek. That's not nearly as crazy as Freeza's power change from being weaker then a SSJ1 to being stronger then a SSJ God. The only thing that makes Goku's power up on Namek crazy AFTER he trained was his zenkai he got after he was healed, going from 200,000 all the way to Freeza's final form at 1%. But Freeza doesn't get zenkais so it doesn't matter.
It's not about hard numbers but proportions. Back then those kinds of gains were huge, way more than gaining a few millions later on.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:35 pm

Dyno wrote:Now I'm like Chuquita, hungry for information and explanation. What if Dragon Ball wiki is right? What if Kakarot has indeed this "God Goku" form which Dragon Ball Heroes has shown to us?
If there is going to be information, this site will have it before the wiki. And it will be correct.
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