The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:20 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:It's possible he was suppressed as a SSJ, since

Yakon = 800 kiri

Goku ~ Yakon

SSJ Goku = 3,000 kiri

3,000 / 800 = 3.75x

So unless SSJ is now a 3.75x boost, he was most likely suppressed.
Or kiri is't a linear scale.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:56 am

Dyno wrote:
singsing wrote:2 billion 800 beats 2.5 billion?
No, a 2 billions and 800 can block a punch from a 2.5 billions. :wink:

And yet, I have to mention that Gogeta's power level comes from an old V-Jump scan for Budokai 3. Maybe in Heroes his power is way higher.
You said he had the highest, surpassing even SSJ Gogeta. 2.5 billion < 2 billion 800?
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Post by Angelus » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:03 am

Oh, and this:

Android 14 VS Android 20 (post-absorptions)

SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline) VS Androids Saga/Pre-ROSAT Piccolo, Tien, Krillin, Yamcha, Base Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku (No Kaioken, Tribeam Solar Flare, or Kienzan)

Bio-Broly (not giant form) VS Cell Games USSJ Future Trunks with sword

Cell Games ASSJ Vegeta VS Dabura (no spitting)

Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions) VS Androids 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, Future 17 and 18 (no self destruct)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:03 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:It's possible he was suppressed as a SSJ, since

Yakon = 800 kiri

Goku ~ Yakon

SSJ Goku = 3,000 kiri

3,000 / 800 = 3.75x

So unless SSJ is now a 3.75x boost, he was most likely suppressed.
Or kiri is't a linear scale.
Or Kiri is just a plot device to say "Wow these warriors are really strong"
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dyno » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:04 am

singsing wrote:You said he had the highest, surpassing even SSJ Gogeta. 2.5 billion < 2 billion 800?
My bad. Should have specified better.

Evil Bardock blocked a punch from Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta (he smashed into a pile of rock and didn't happen anything to him later on), who is way stronger than Super Saiyan Gogeta (who have been stated to have 2.5 billions power level). Even though, I think if Heroes was to analyze Super Saiyan Gogeta's power level, maybe it wouldn't be "2.5"... You know, games' logic.

Hell, I must say that struggle with God-Dama made by: Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, Piccolo, Patrol Trunks and Beat just broke part of his mask... You take your own conclusion. :P
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:06 am

Dyno wrote:
singsing wrote:You said he had the highest, surpassing even SSJ Gogeta. 2.5 billion < 2 billion 800?
My bad. Should have specified better.

Evil Bardock blocked a punch from Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta (he smashed into a pile of rock and didn't happened anything to him later on), who is way stronger than Super Saiyan Gogeta (who have been stated to have 2.5 billions power level). Even though, I think if Heroes was to analyze Super Saiyan Gogeta's power level, maybe it wouldn't be "2.5"... You know, games' logic.

Hell, I must say that struggle with God-Dama made by: Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, Piccolo, Patrol Trunks and Beat just broke part of his mask... You take your own conclusion. :P
I think it's about as applicable as me beating SSJ4 Gogeta with Mr. Satan in Tenkaichi 2.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:06 am

Dyno wrote:Hell, I must say that struggle with God-Dama made by: Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, Piccolo, Patrol Trunks and Beat just broke part of his mask... You take your own conclusion. :P
My conclusion and a lot of others is simply "Do not follow Heroes logic...ever."
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:49 am

Angelus wrote:Android 14 VS Android 20 (post-absorptions)

SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline) VS Androids Saga/Pre-ROSAT Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha, Base Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku (No Kaioken, Tribeam Solar Flare, or Kienzan)

Bio-Broly (not giant form) VS Cell Games USSJ Future Trunks with sword

Cell Games ASSJ Vegeta VS Dabura (no spitting)

Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions) VS Androids 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, Future 17 and 18 (no self destruct)
- Android 20
- Future Trunks stomps
- Future Trunks stomps
- Dabura crushes Vegeta
- Imperfect Cell with effort
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:58 am

Angelus wrote:Oh, and this:

Android 14 VS Android 20 (post-absorptions)

SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline) VS Androids Saga/Pre-ROSAT Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha, Base Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku (No Kaioken, Tribeam Solar Flare, or Kienzan)

Bio-Broly (not giant form) VS Cell Games USSJ Future Trunks with sword

Cell Games ASSJ Vegeta VS Dabura (no spitting)

Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions) VS Androids 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, Future 17 and 18 (no self destruct)
-#20
-Future Trunks wins with slight effort
-Future Trunks
-Dabra stomps.
-The android team win. Their combined power is at least over 900 million.
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Post by Angelus » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:58 am

Hmmm... but wasn't Gohan already weaker as a SSJ than his Cell Games self when he was fighting Dabura?
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:46 am

Angelus wrote:Hmmm... but wasn't Gohan already weaker as a SSJ than his Cell Games self when he was fighting Dabura?
Still a lot stronger than Grade 2 Vegeta at that time.
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Post by Angelus » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:24 am

But that's Cell Games Vegeta... so he's post-2nd day ROSAT. Not the first time he appeared as ASSJ, which was post-1st day ROSAT.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:27 am

Then maybe he'd be around that level, maybe not. It depends on what one would think the Grade 2 boost is, which is never revealed in any guidebooks.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:03 pm

Dyno wrote:
singsing wrote:You said he had the highest, surpassing even SSJ Gogeta. 2.5 billion < 2 billion 800?
My bad. Should have specified better.
Wait. Is the number "over 2 billion" or "2.8 billion"?
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Post by Dyno » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:53 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:Wait. Is the number "over 2 billion" or "2.8 billion"?
2.5 billion is Super Saiyan Gogeta's power level. Over 2.8 billion is Evil Bardock's power level.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:43 pm

Super Baby 2 vs. Super Saiyan 2 Vegetto
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:43 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Baby 2 vs. Super Saiyan 2 Vegetto
- Normal Logic: SSJ2 Vegetto stomps
- GT Logic: Super Baby 2 stomps
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Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:31 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Baby 2 vs. Super Saiyan 2 Vegetto
- Normal Logic: SSJ2 Vegetto stomps
- GT Logic: Super Baby 2 stomps
Can you elaborate on normal logic? Just out of curiosity.
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Post by Angelus » Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:23 pm

Vegito. Baby was the first GT villain and so, wasn't too over powered.. yet.
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Post by AvatarReiko » Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:34 pm

MSSJ Kid Gohan vs SSJ Majin Vegeta

SSJ2 Goku vs Super Perfect Cell & SSJ2 Gohan

SSJ Gotenks POST vs BOG SSJ2 Vegeta
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