Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by kidhero1000 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:29 pm

I would of loved to see Future Trunks returning to the past to help out against Freeza and his forces
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:32 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote: Also saying some fans are "spoiled" mostly because their opinions on a language preference of an anime is just ridiculous pretentious
You missed the point, again...
If its was just a matter of preference it would be okay.
The problem is that these spoiled fans don't accept anything besides their own dub. Talk shit without knowing shit. If it isn't dubbed in their language, they start crying.
That's what makes them... well, spoiled. :wink:
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Post by SSJGFrieza » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:34 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:What? Continuation of the manga? This isn't a manga, it's an anime. Anime rules apply. Even ~~~TORIYAMA~~~ can't change the laws of physics.
It's a continuation of the manga. Why do people still try to argue these new movies aren't?
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Post by Captain Space » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:35 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:What? Continuation of the manga? This isn't a manga, it's an anime. Anime rules apply. Even ~~~TORIYAMA~~~ can't change the laws of physics.
...what? If they want to make a sequel/side-story to the manga, they can.
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Post by bleed0range » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:39 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:What? Continuation of the manga? This isn't a manga, it's an anime. Anime rules apply. Even ~~~TORIYAMA~~~ can't change the laws of physics.
It's a continuation of the story from the manga. Manga has buu defeated then this stuff would be the continuation of that story. That's all there is to it and it's a stated fact by the creator and author of the manga. So that's what it is.
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Big Momma wrote: At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you or I think how it is or how it should be. It is being written as a continuation of the manga. Not the anime. That is a concrete fact. What you think doesn't matter here.
The name is "Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection 'F'", isn't it? It makes sense to say it is an anime movie, because, well, that's what it is. If the name were "Dragon Ball: Resurrection F", it would be clearer.
DBZ is just an adaptation of the manga in animated form. It has filler yes, but it's still just the manga adapted into an animated series. So it is just as accurate to name it Dragon Ball Z since it follows where the story leaves off at the end of the animated adaptation of the series (i.e. DBZ).

Same story no matter how you look at it. This is a continuation of that story before the final chapter with uub and all that.
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Post by ZazamPow » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:40 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:What? Continuation of the manga? This isn't a manga, it's an anime. Anime rules apply. Even ~~~TORIYAMA~~~ can't change the laws of physics.
Anime is physics?
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I swear, the Gohan fanboys won't be happy unless he just bends over and farts all of Freeza's men into the sun.
fadeddreams5 wrote: Honestly, this would only make me slightly satisfied. To make me happy, he'd also have to grab Freeza by the tail, drag him to the nearest toilet, and give him swirlies until he submits and calls him "daddy."

Gohan deserves it.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:41 pm

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Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:What? Continuation of the manga? This isn't a manga, it's an anime. Anime rules apply. Even ~~~TORIYAMA~~~ can't change the laws of physics.
It's a continuation of the manga. Why do people still try to argue these new movies aren't?
Because some people hate modern DBZ and resent the fact that most of the material (BOG, DB Minus, RF) is canon within the manga.

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Post by kidhero1000 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:43 pm

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SSJGFrieza wrote:
Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:What? Continuation of the manga? This isn't a manga, it's an anime. Anime rules apply. Even ~~~TORIYAMA~~~ can't change the laws of physics.
It's a continuation of the manga. Why do people still try to argue these new movies aren't?
Because some people hate modern DBZ and resent the fact that most of the material (BOG, DB Minus, RF) is canon within the manga.
Then it seems they need to learn how to deal with it and get over it.
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Post by Captain Space » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:44 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:"Continuation of the manga" really only works if you... continue the manga. Also good when you don't shit all over what you already wrote, although clearly that's not a requirement.

Besides, I doubt that these new movies are meant to be taken as "canon" the way people are obsessing over. Toriyama probably doesn't even know or care what canon is.
My point is that this is a movie that follows the manga version of events, seeing as it's being written by the guy who wrote the manga. He's not gonna conform it to a story someone else wrote.
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Post by SSJGFrieza » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:45 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
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Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:What? Continuation of the manga? This isn't a manga, it's an anime. Anime rules apply. Even ~~~TORIYAMA~~~ can't change the laws of physics.
It's a continuation of the manga. Why do people still try to argue these new movies aren't?
Because some people hate modern DBZ and resent the fact that most of the material (BOG, DB Minus, RF) is canon within the manga.
Well i can understand Minus because that is pure shit.
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Post by bleed0range » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:45 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:"Continuation of the manga" really only works if you... continue the manga. Also good when you don't shit all over what you already wrote.

Besides, I doubt that these new movies are meant to be taken as "canon" the way people are obsessing over. Toriyama probably doesn't even know or care what canon is.
I think by explaining that it's a continuation of his story from the manga it's pretty clear what he means. You can use words like "manga" or "anime" but what he is really saying is it's a continuation of the story of Dragon Ball (You know the story of Goku from a little kid until he defeats Buu) that he created.



I'm more and more getting the feeling that we are being trolled by a few users to keep arguing this rather simple to understand bit of information.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:48 pm

Wonder who's dubbing Freeza's new henchmen?
And I wonder when Korea is dubbing this but from I know BoG did poorly in Korea... :(

Just in case a slightly older Goten appear. Who voiced in him EoZ/DBGT(Funimation).

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Post by bleed0range » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:49 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:My interpretation doesn't have to match yours. We CAN HAVE different points of view without any "trolling" being involved. I could just as easily say that you folks who think differently are the ones trolling us, bit obviously that's not true is it? You just think differently.

What's the issue?
Well, it's a stated fact that it's a continuation of the manga storyline. So it's not really an opinion.

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Post by Captain Space » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:50 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:My interpretation doesn't have to match yours. We CAN HAVE different points of view without any "trolling" being involved. I could just as easily say that you folks who think differently are the ones trolling us, bit obviously that's not true is it? You just think differently.

What's the issue?
Can I just get clarification, though--is your opinion that this new movie is a continuation/side-story of the anime/GT version of the story? Because that's really all I'm arguing against.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:53 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:Yeah, I strongly dislike Goku's Japanese voice too. I've never understood the logic behind it. It's the only dub I know with his voice like that. Is it supposed to be funny irony in Japan (big muscular guy with squeaky voice) or something? I don't get it...>.>
If you were to watch the series from the very beginning in Japanese and gotten to know Goku, who he is, what he looks like, and what he sounds like over the course of 132 episodes, and then tune in to episode 133 when this tall, turban-clad man shows up, whose friends don't even recognize him, and then you hear that familiar voice... then you'd understand the logic behind it.
I don't see the logic, tbh. Goku removing his turban and revealing his hair is the most significant part of that scene, no matter what dub you watch, whether it's Spanish, French, Germany, English, etc. If anything, NOT recognizing his voice makes that scene better because there's more build up to the point he shows off his iconic hair.

I'm going to be blunt here, I feel the voice is so absurd it became, subsequently, iconic to the character. It's not meant to be good or fitting, or evoke any sense of familiarity with the character upon his growth. It's silly, it's goofy, and Japan likes that, so now they can't think of the character without it. Naturally, international dubs took the masculinity of the character more seriously, and when others hear the Japanese sub, they think Goku's balls didn't drop, so they either abort mission or express their hate on Youtube. Not me tho. <3
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Post by bleed0range » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:54 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:Except it is, because the quote (I believe?) is that he's writing it "as if it were a continuation". That's doesn't make it a continuation, just because he happens to say he's writing it that way.

Clearly room for at least some interpretation for each individual fan.
Not really. The "as if it were" bit is only because the manga itself is not literally being continued. The part about it being a continuation of that storyline is a fact. You don't have to like it, but it is.

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