The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[KingKaiGuy]

Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Second Form Freeza
Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Third Form Freeza
Hypothetical SSJ Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Final Form Freeza (60%)
SSJ Future Gohan (Both Arms) v. Freeza

[DBZAOTA482]

Pocus vs. Android #18

Lazuli sits on top of Pui-Pui, bored.

[DBZAOTA482]

Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Second Form Freeza
Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Third Form Freeza
Hypothetical SSJ Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Final Form Freeza (60%)
SSJ Future Gohan (Both Arms) v. Freeza

-Vegeta claims this.
-Freeza wins but not easily.
-Vegeta
-Gohan

[Lord Beerus]

Pocus vs. Android #18

#18 stomps Pocus

Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Second Form Freeza
Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Third Form Freeza
Hypothetical SSJ Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Final Form Freeza (60%)
SSJ Future Gohan (Both Arms) v. Freeza

- Vegeta stomps
- Freeza works a sweat but gets the job done
- Freeza wins with effort
- Future Gohan stomps

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Second Form Freeza
Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Third Form Freeza

It's implied that Vegeta is >>> 3rd form Freeza, so he should win in both of these.

Hypothetical SSJ Vegeta (Freeza Arc w/ Dende Healing) v. Final Form Freeza (60%)

Vegeta

SSJ Future Gohan (Both Arms) v. Freeza

Gohan wins.

Lazuli sits on top of Pui-Pui, bored.

#18 stomps Pocus

How weak do you guys think Pocus is?

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base Gohan (Android arc) vs. 2 arm base Future Gohan (if Kid Gohan wins, make it 1 arm Future Gohan.)

[DBZAOTA482]

As strong as the average Saiyan.

Oh, and Kid Gohan wins.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

The manga implies he's somewhat strong. I place him right inbetween Android saga SSJ Vegeta and #18.

[Lord Beerus]

base Gohan (Android arc) vs. 2 arm base Future Gohan (if Kid Gohan wins, make it 1 arm Future Gohan.)

Future Gohan stomps

[DBZAOTA482]

The manga implies he's somewhat strong. I place him right inbetween Android saga SSJ Vegeta and #18.

If it's cuz of Kaioshin it's more than likely wrong.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

well;
~ Babidi took Pocus over Freeza as a henchman (you can argue Babidi only knew 1st form Freeza, in which case, would atleast place Pocus > 1st form Freeza.)

~ Babidi and Dabra both expected Pocus to defeat Kaioshin along with the 3 combatants with 'marvelous energy'.

~ Kaioshin (the guy who can one-shot Freeza) is completely astonished at Vegeta's abiltity to kill Pocus.

[DBZAOTA482]

well;
~ Babidi took Pocus over Freeza as a henchman (you can argue Babidi only knew 1st form Freeza, in which case, would atleast place Pocus > 1st form Freeza.)

~ Babidi and Dabra both expected Pocus to defeat Kaioshin along with the 3 combatants with 'marvelous energy'.

~ Kaioshin (the guy who can one-shot Freeza) is completely astonished at Vegeta's abiltity to kill Pocus.

- Freeza was dead.

- Babidi and Dabra thought Goku, Gohan, and Vegeta were "mere mortals".

- Kaioshin's a cowardly dipshit who'd be scared of Yamcha if he had a Majin symbol on his forehead.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

- Freeza was dead.

- Babidi and Dabra thought Goku, Gohan, and Vegeta were "mere mortals".

- Kaioshin's a cowardly dipshit who'd be scared of Yamcha if he had a Majin symbol on his forehead.

-Only for like 10-11 years, Babidi's been around a lot longer than that.

- Doesn't matter what they thought of them, they still had no worries sending out Pocus against Kaioshin.

- Why is he shocked then? He's not scared at this point, he's completely flabbergasted, gawking like an idiot at Vegeta's power. You'd think he'd come to the conclusion "Well maybe I overestimated Pocus" or "Maybe Babidi's henchman aren't as bad as I thought" if Kaioshin was supposedly superior to Vegeta (and in turn Pocus), but instead his jaw is on the floor, and he's exclaiming he didn't dream the base saiyans were this powerful.

but this debate is off topic to the actual thread, so:

SSJ Gohan (the first time he transformed in the RoSaT) vs. pre-Kami Piccolo (Android saga)

[ZazamPow]

Personally I like the idea of each of Babidi's men representing the power of the previous arc's villain. Dabura is Cell, Yakon is Freeza, and Pocus is Vegeta. This would make sense since everyone fought and easily defeated their rivals, except for Gohan because he slacked off.

[ZazamPow]

Majin Perfect Freeza vs Lord Janembroly.

[Angelus]

^WTF?

Well whatever, Janemba-Broly wins even if Majin Cell absorbed Frieza.

[DBZAOTA482]

Personally I like the idea of each of Babidi's men representing the power of the previous arc's villain. Dabura is Cell, Yakon is Freeza, and Pocus is Vegeta. This would make sense since everyone fought and easily defeated their rivals, except for Gohan because he slacked off.

Vegeta is Vegeta's rival?!

[ZazamPow]

Personally I like the idea of each of Babidi's men representing the power of the previous arc's villain. Dabura is Cell, Yakon is Freeza, and Pocus is Vegeta. This would make sense since everyone fought and easily defeated their rivals, except for Gohan because he slacked off.

Vegeta is Vegeta's rival?!

Of course. He showed his superiority to his previous self. Goku couldn't be Goku's rival, but Saiyan arc Vegeta is a different character from Buu arc Vegeta. It shows not only how much the characters have progressed in power, but also serves as another subtle piece of character development for Vegeta, leading up to the culmination of his history when he sacrificed himself against Majin Buu.

[Saiga]

well;
~ Babidi took Pocus over Freeza as a henchman (you can argue Babidi only knew 1st form Freeza, in which case, would atleast place Pocus > 1st form Freeza.)

~ Babidi and Dabra both expected Pocus to defeat Kaioshin along with the 3 combatants with 'marvelous energy'.

~ Kaioshin (the guy who can one-shot Freeza) is completely astonished at Vegeta's abiltity to kill Pocus.

Personally I think Babidi just took his minions from Makai, since we know Dabra is from there and Yakon very likely is being a "Maju" so there's no need to compare him to Freeza.

Kaioshin is only surprised because Vegeta was suppressing his ki.

[Pantalones]

How weak do you guys think Pocus is?

Weak enough that base-form Vegeta can kill him effortlessly. And this is a Vegeta who hasn't had the Majin boost yet, so he's even weaker than Buu Saga base Goku, let alone the after-a-few-more-years-of-training base Goku who Beerus said still couldn't handle Freeza's true power. He's also a lot weaker than Yakon, who seemed about even with (or slightly stronger than) base Goku.

So Pui-Pui is nothing compared to final-form Freeza at 100%... no way he'd be able to do crap against someone as powerful as Android 18!

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I'm another guy who thinks Pui-Pui is a joke. The highest level I give him is Freeza's level when fighting Goku. I often have him much weaker than that.