Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Dyno]

So... Is Jaco's time in the blog? Any translation for us?

[aryansaiyan]

Gogeta isn't even canon, he was shafted out for the sake of not being redundant.. which is minuscule and not worth it.

We could have Vegetto, and have Good Boo defuse them afterwards in his innards, correct?
Could Kai's materialize Potara's?? Maybe, I prefer Gogeta but they are still a fusion of the greatest warriors to ever live. With all pride put aside.

[Low Tone G]

I]m seeing lot of people to talk about a possible Saiyan God Vegetto, but please.... But is he even possible? Or rather, is he even a good choice when it's a permanent type of fusion? And the Matemorian fusion is something that needs power level, which doesn appy to God power according to Beerus. I think the fusion is out-dated and not even possible this time.

[Kishido]

@ShadowWolf87

So 4 month Frieza > Years of battle geniuses over years + later training by Whis... OK... Still you look for an explanation for this... It will stay silly... No matter how you twist it.

And both has to overcome it in the same movie? Did Goku had to become SS2 in the Cell saga as well?

And for your info... Yeah the Saiyans were revenged by Goku... You said it yourself... BY ONE Super Saiyan... Later on a kid from the future was ONE man... And now suddenly because of butthurt cuz of "Goku has to be da strongest for evaaaahhh" it should need 2 overpowered Saiyans for Frieza? Yeah comepleely fitting in the story with Frieza... Frieza could die a honorable death knowing that it needed 2 Saiyans to beat his strenght... Yeah awesome

Now I really would like to see this talk if Gohan would be the star of the movie and maybe hinted to beat Frieza... Everyone would flip their shit. Cuz Gohan is da son of Goku and has beaten Cell, Bojack and is Mystic and whatever.

Even if you dislike Vegeta... I still don't see the damn problem of him winning ONE damn fight Goku hasn't won.

Why no one has a problem nowadays that Gohan has won against the MAJOR villian? No one had a problem Trunks owned Mecha Frieza? No one has a problem that Mystic Gohan was stronger as Super Saiyan 3?

But if it is Vegeta for ONCE... I repeat for ONCE... It is bad shit story?

Even more if you KNOW that the next movie is around the corner with Goku of course being sooner or later the main man again... Even if he has to become Super Saiyan Beyond God and even further

[aryansaiyan]

I]m seeing lot of people to talk about a possible Saiyan God Vegetto, but please.... But is he even possible? Or rather, is he even a good choice when it's a permanent type of fusion? And the Matemorian fusion is something that needs power level, which doesn appy to God power according to Beerus. I think the fusion is out-dated and not even possible this time.

Good Buu could defuse them afterwards. They could still metamoran fuse, because all they need is to be at the same level or energy frequency.

[Kamiccolo9]

I]m seeing lot of people to talk about a possible Saiyan God Vegetto, but please.... But is he even possible? Or rather, is he even a good choice when it's a permanent type of fusion? And the Matemorian fusion is something that needs power level, which doesn appy to God power according to Beerus. I think the fusion is out-dated and not even possible this time.

Good Buu could defuse them afterwards. They could still metamoran fuse, because all they need is to be at the same level or energy frequency.

They defused inside of Super Buu because of Buu's "Bad Air."
Mr. Buu, being good since all of his evil was torn out to make Pure Buu, would presumably not have "bad" air.

[TheGmGoken]

I]m seeing lot of people to talk about a possible Saiyan God Vegetto, but please.... But is he even possible? Or rather, is he even a good choice when it's a permanent type of fusion? And the Matemorian fusion is something that needs power level, which doesn appy to God power according to Beerus. I think the fusion is out-dated and not even possible this time.

Good Buu could defuse them afterwards. They could still metamoran fuse, because all they need is to be at the same level or energy frequency.

They defused inside of Super Buu because of Buu's "Bad Air."
Mr. Buu, being good since all of his evil was torn out to make Pure Buu, would presumably not have "bad" air.

That's official?

[Kamiccolo9]

That's official?

In the manga, they defuse, and it's like "must have been because of the bad air in here."
The rest was me extrapolating from that.

[Tennessaiyan]

I]m seeing lot of people to talk about a possible Saiyan God Vegetto, but please.... But is he even possible? Or rather, is he even a good choice when it's a permanent type of fusion? And the Matemorian fusion is something that needs power level, which doesn appy to God power according to Beerus. I think the fusion is out-dated and not even possible this time.

Good Buu could defuse them afterwards. They could still metamoran fuse, because all they need is to be at the same level or energy frequency.

I've seen a lot of people say that it would be impossible for a "Matemorian" fusion, since they may be at completely different power levels, but if one is stronger than the other, one could just lower his power enough to where they could fuse, right? Just like how Trunks had to power down a little bit to be equal with Goten to create Gotenks.

Either way, I just don't see fusion happening in this movie. Maybe a mention or even an attempt, but I just don't see it happening. Super Saiyan God Gogeta/Vegetto just sounds too fanfiction-y to me. I think teamwork will be used, and from the way Toyotaro and Naho talked about Vegeta being "cool," I believe he may be the one to shine the most; not getting the win himself, but possibly getting in the final blow... or something of that magnitude.

I'm STILL wondering what all was said towards the end of that video of the event with the main voice cast. I REALLY want to know what Nozawa and Furukawa were saying about Horikawa as Vegeta. Just the way they were talking, it sounded like they were praising Vegeta's role in the movie or at least his voice performance. That's just the vibe I got from it.

[sintzu]

Now I really would like to see this talk if Gohan would be the star of the movie and maybe hinted to beat Freeza... Everyone would flip their shit. Cuz Gohan is da son of Goku and has beaten Cell, Bojack and is Mystic and whatever.

Even if you dislike Vegeta... I still don't see the damn problem of him winning ONE damn fight Goku hasn't won.

Why no one has a problem nowadays that Gohan has won against the MAJOR villian?

But if it is Vegeta for ONCE... I repeat for ONCE... It is bad shit story?

They would like it even though he's a shell of his former self and it would make no sense from a story standpoint.

There's no problem,it's how the story should go and is how it would have if Toriyama continued the manga back in the day.

Because he's Goku's son.

That's fanboy logic for you.

[Hellspawn28]

The only way that they can defuse Vegito is with the Dragon Balls. I don't think Vegito is ever going to come back. I think he is a one shot character much like how Gogeta is (I view Gogeta in Movie 12 and GT as two totally different characters).

[TheGmGoken]

That's official?

In the manga, they defuse, and it's like "must have been because of the bad air in here."
The rest was me extrapolating from that.

Pretty sure it was Boo's weird anatomy.

[Kamiccolo9]

That's official?

In the manga, they defuse, and it's like "must have been because of the bad air in here."
The rest was me extrapolating from that.

Pretty sure it was Boo's weird anatomy.

No, it literally says "bad air."

[Low Tone G]

I]m seeing lot of people to talk about a possible Saiyan God Vegetto, but please.... But is he even possible? Or rather, is he even a good choice when it's a permanent type of fusion? And the Matemorian fusion is something that needs power level, which doesn appy to God power according to Beerus. I think the fusion is out-dated and not even possible this time.

Good Buu could defuse them afterwards. They could still metamoran fuse, because all they need is to be at the same level or energy frequency.

They defused inside of Super Buu because of Buu's "Bad Air."
Mr. Buu, being good since all of his evil was torn out to make Pure Buu, would presumably not have "bad" air.

Bad air? Does that mean smelly or toxic? Or simply a magical air? I'm not talking about Mr. Buu not not being able to defuse a potara fusion absorbing one in his body, but let's be honest, God Vegetto wouldn't be a normal being, would he?

[Kamiccolo9]

Bad air? Does that mean smelly or toxic? Or simply a magical air? Iám not talking about Mr. Buu not not being able to defuse a potara fusion absorbing one his body, but let't be honest, God Vegetto wouldn't be a normal being, would he?

It means "bad air." They didn't elaborate on it. Apparently it was just "bad."

[ShadowWolf87]

@ShadowWolf87

So 4 month Freeza > Years of battle geniuses over years + later training by Whis... OK... Still you look for an explanation for this... It will stay silly... No matter how you twist it.

And both has to overcome it in the same movie? Did Goku had to become SS2 in the Cell saga as well?

And for your info... Yeah the Saiyans were revenged by Goku... You said it yourself... BY ONE Super Saiyan... Later on a kid from the future was ONE man... And now suddenly because of butthurt cuz of "Goku has to be da strongest for evaaaahhh" it should need 2 overpowered Saiyans for Freeza? Yeah comepleely fitting in the story with Freeza... Freeza could die a honorable death knowing that it needed 2 Saiyans to beat his strenght... Yeah awesome

Now I really would like to see this talk if Gohan would be the star of the movie and maybe hinted to beat Freeza... Everyone would flip their shit. Cuz Gohan is da son of Goku and has beaten Cell, Bojack and is Mystic and whatever.

Even if you dislike Vegeta... I still don't see the damn problem of him winning ONE damn fight Goku hasn't won.

Why no one has a problem nowadays that Gohan has won against the MAJOR villian? No one had a problem Trunks owned Mecha Freeza? No one has a problem that Mystic Gohan was stronger as Super Saiyan 3?

But if it is Vegeta for ONCE... I repeat for ONCE... It is bad shit story?

Even more if you KNOW that the next movie is around the corner with Goku of course being sooner or later the main man again... Even if he has to become Super Saiyan Beyond God and even further

You seem to think Freeza would be happy knowing that he was still able to be beaten by two Saiyans despite achieving god-tier power. You also seem to forget Freeza himself was a combat genius among geniuses. We also don't know yet what exactly he does to train.

But aside from that, you seem to be reading this as "butthurt" over Goku. Could I not just as easily dismiss every complaint or argument against GOKU getting to do this as "butthurt' Vegeta fanboys demanding their favorite get to be stronger? Fact of the matter is, Goku is stronger than Vegeta right now and doing the precise same training, gets stomped, and people act as though he has to waltz right in there and solo Freeza despite Freeza now being in a league of his own in less than the space of a single movie. I don't see that.

I can see Vegeta getting the final blow, I can see him putting up a better fight than what happened last time, but there's no way he's winning. No way Goku's winning either. And Whis' training shows both Goku and Vegeta trying to attack at the same time, slamming into each other, completely out of sync; both also have problems with their pride, hating to rely on others to win, and have a problem on the opposite end of the spectrum that the other happens to compensate for, sometimes overcompensate even. That, to me, points to a joint effort to beat this enemy that's far and away out of their league.

I'm sorry if that somehow angers you, but those are my observations.

[aryansaiyan]

I wouldn't rule out Good Buu not being able to defuse Vegetto because bad air could be another term for the way his innards feel, not necessarily the evil in the air

"Bad Air" is just Goku's hypothesis hehe

Also God Vegetto/Gogeta could be attainable, assuming Tarble/Pregnant Bulma, Gohan, Baby Pan, Goten, Trunks could suffice for a transformation.

This is all hypothetical intellectual fan theories and is just an outlandish idea of what's possible. I doubt a fusion for this movie too.

[Herms]

Bad air? Does that mean smelly or toxic? Or simply a magical air?

Toxic is what I always figured. Anyway, it's イヤな空気/iya-na kuuki; イヤな is "bad" more in the sense of unpleasant than morally evil. For morally evil (like Boo's evil forms), the words typically in Japanese are 邪悪/ja'aku or simply 悪/aku.

[Tennessaiyan]

Crap. I forgot about the recent Bulma Blog. Herms said that it had something to do with Jaco, and something about Tights. Has it been mentioned already that Tights is going to be in the movie or no?

[Birusu16]

I'll enjoy quite a few laughs if Vegeta is indeed the one who defeats Freeza. All the people emphatically stating it won't ever happen will be eating crow big time.