Something bugging me about Cell...

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Post by SaiyaMel » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:35 am

He said the nucleus is in his head. he was missing everything from the waist up for crying out loud...
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Post by MyVisionity » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:01 pm

SaiyaMel wrote:He said the nucleus is in his head. he was missing everything from the waist up for crying out loud...
Yeah but it's a nucleus, and that's got to be pretty small. Goku's Kamehameha may have had enough power to destroy half of Cell's body, but not enough to destroy the nucleus. Like Mystic Jack said with the gun.

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Post by Rocketman » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:44 pm

MyVisionity wrote:Yeah but it's a nucleus, and that's got to be pretty small. Goku's Kamehameha may have had enough power to destroy half of Cell's body, but not enough to destroy the nucleus. Like Mystic Jack said with the gun.
Then he should've regenerated from the nucleus, not from what was left of his body.

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Post by Steven Perry » Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:32 pm

SaiyaMel wrote:He said the nucleus is in his head. he was missing everything from the waist up for crying out loud...

So, Piccolo's regenerative cells are ONLY located in his head? I don't think so. :? His whole body contains them, so they automatically regenerate.
Maphisto86 wrote:I'm guessing Cell used so much energy to regenerate his upper half that he became exhausted. Not to mention that he had a major battle with Goku so by the time Goku finishes the match both he and Cell are quite pooped. Perhaps this negated any power up he received. Or it wasn't a major power up but that seems unlikely.
Maybe there's special ki-absorbing cells, which are only located above the legs. The ki cells weren't there when he was blown away (so the energy to regenerate was extracted from his legs), but there were some floating around in space after his self-destruction. He probably absorbed some energy from a star or something.
Wikipedia wrote:...some schools also add a metaphysical aspect, claiming that ki can come from the Tan t'ien (or one point in Ki-Aikido), a location in the lower abdomen, and circulate around the body.
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Post by Rocketman » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:08 pm

Steven Perry wrote:
SaiyaMel wrote:He said the nucleus is in his head. he was missing everything from the waist up for crying out loud...

So, Piccolo's regenerative cells are ONLY located in his head? I don't think so. :? His whole body contains them, so they automatically regenerate.
Piccolo states he can regenerate only as long as his head is intact.

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Post by Mystic Jack » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:00 am

Well like I said, if the nucleus remained intact he could regenerate, now, because he regenerated you'd assume that it stayed intact after Goku attacked him, so I'd imagine that because he's an android that the nucleus (as it was seperate from his body at the time) ordered the body to regenerate via brain telepathy. Thus the new Cell.

Besides, when Piccolo was brought back to life from stone after being spat on by Dabura his head was not on his body. It was broken off, yet he was still able to regenerate, which would give Cell the same thing.
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Post by Rocketman » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:19 am

Mystic Jack wrote:Besides, when Piccolo was brought back to life from stone after being spat on by Dabura his head was not on his body. It was broken off, yet he was still able to regenerate, which would give Cell the same thing.
So his head reattached?

I think it's more 'logical' that regeneration happens from the head/nucleus. We see it happen in Cell's flashback, after all.

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Post by Eclipse » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:55 pm

Rocketman wrote:
MyVisionity wrote:Yeah but it's a nucleus, and that's got to be pretty small. Goku's Kamehameha may have had enough power to destroy half of Cell's body, but not enough to destroy the nucleus. Like Mystic Jack said with the gun.
Then he should've regenerated from the nucleus, not from what was left of his body.
He didn't need to. I mean, when he blew himself up, there was nothing left of him. Then he had to regenerate from the nucleus. Right there, he didn't need to, considering a good part of his body was still there.

Besides, what people assume is that he regenerates completly from the nucleus. Cell stated that as long as it remains, he can regenerate. It's like an arm, if certain nerves are there, you can't use it at all (It's a messed up example which will probably enrage any medical students here, but oh well)

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Post by Mystic Jack » Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:53 pm

It's a confusing issue no matter which way you look at it, I'm guessing that the nucleus just somehow figured it would be easier (since pretty much the whole upper half of Cell exploded) that he make a new upper half on the lower half, as to how the nucleus managed to move from the fragments of Cell's blown up head, I can't really think of anything.
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Post by The Chibi Kiriyama » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:30 pm

Cell's regeneration is easy to explain. The typical reader interpretation is that Cell is incapable of regenerating his head, as that is where the 'core' resides. Obviously, it does not work completely like his Namekian palette. He can regenerate without his head, despite the fact that Namekians regenerate so long as there is no head trauma. But, if you notice, that's not a plothole- Cell states the reason he should have died after the explosion not because he lacked a head but because he was in a microscopic state. The explosion was meant to destroy every bit of him- that his 'core' survived was luck. His 'core' is different from the rest of his cells. The cluster is the only part of him capable of continuing regeneration on a microscopic level. Want further proof? Look no farther than what surrounds the 'core'- small bits of tissue. Whereas those small bits of tissue are incapable of regenerating Cell's whole body (hence his reasoning that he should have died) by complete chance the 'core' survived. The reason why he could regenerate with his head destroyed is because he had plenty of organic matter to do so. His 'core' only comes into play when all of his organic matter is broken down to a microscopic level. It lives up to it's purpose as a failsafe. It is not actually a vital part of him, just something that comes into play when his body is stretched beyond the point where he can regenerate himself at will.
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Post by Majin Buu » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:34 am

Wasn't the explination EX offered in the podcast that his nucleus can move as that's the case for real nucleus containing organisms?

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Post by SS2 Vegeto » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:07 pm

On the exact nature of Cell's regeneration, I'm in complete agreeance with my friend, Kiri.

As far as a power increase, he has Saiya-jin genes in his body. It seems to me that he simply recieved a zenkai, and due to that, achieved something akin to Super Saiya-jin 2.

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