The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by jcogginsa » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:19 pm

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jcogginsa wrote:Perfect Cell vs. Dabura vs. Broly vs. Hatchyack vs. Bojack
Considering how smart Cell is, he'll probably outlast all of them while Broly just goes on a raging rampage and fight the other two. I assume Dabura won't spit.
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Post by Dyno » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:30 pm

Aaron vs Kuririn (first appearance)
Lairon vs Tenshinhan (22º Budokai Tenkaichi)
Aggron vs Jackie Chun
MegaAggron vs Kakarot (21º Budokai Tenkaichi)

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Post by Angelus » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:48 pm

And let's have some fresh versus for the day!

Android 14 VS 100% Mecha Frieza

28th WMAT Pan VS Uub (not enraged by Goku's insults, also 28th WMAT)

Torbie and Tapkar VS Kamiccolo

King Cold without armor VS Base Goku (Yardrat; could use up to Kaioken x20 comfortably) with blonde-dyed hair, green contact lenses, and dressed up in Future Trunk's clothes and equipped with his sword

Android 13 (no tail cutting) VS Movie 10 Full Power Great Ape Broly (Broly WON'T be a SSJ before turning Great Ape)


former versus:

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:27 pm

jcogginsa wrote:Perfect Cell vs. Dabura vs. Broly vs. Hatchyack vs. Bojack
Bojack doesn't seem all that smart, despite being leader of his pirate gang. He'll charge in against Broly and/or Hatchyack, and get slaughtered. Broly and Hatchyack will then notice the other and go crazy. Perfect Cell will be impressed by their strength and want to test out his, but will not interfere in their battle, as both combatants are mentally deranged and not interested in a fair fight. Meanwhile, Dabura just chills on a throne. Hatchyack has a slight advantage against Broly, but still ends up badly damaged. Dabura finishes him off by slicing him in half with his sword from his throne. Then, it's Perfect Cell vs Dabura, which plays out exactly like that Multiverse chapter.

Perfect Cell wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:18 pm

Dyno wrote:Aaron vs Kuririn (first appearance)
Lairon vs Tenshinhan (22º Budokai Tenkaichi)
Aggron vs Jackie Chun
MegaAggron vs Kakarot (21º Budokai Tenkaichi)
- Aaron wins
- Tien stomps
- Jackie Chun takes this
- Goku wins
Angelus wrote:And let's have some fresh versus for the day!

Android 14 VS 100% Mecha Freeza

28th WMAT Pan VS Uub (not enraged by Goku's insults, also 28th WMAT)

Torbie and Tapkar VS Kamiccolo

King Cold without armor VS Base Goku (Yardrat; could use up to Kaioken x20 comfortably) with blonde-dyed hair, green contact lenses, and dressed up in Future Trunk's clothes and equipped with his sword

Android 13 (no tail cutting) VS Movie 10 Full Power Great Ape Broly (Broly WON'T be a SSJ before turning Great Ape)
- #14 stomps.
- Oob wins with effort.
- Kamiccolo wrecks the pair of them.
- Base Goku dominates King Cold.
- Broly crushes #13. Literally.
jcogginsa wrote:Perfect Cell vs. Dabura vs. Broly vs. Hatchyack vs. Bojack
Cell wins

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:40 pm

Angelus wrote:And let's have some fresh versus for the day!

Android 14 VS 100% Mecha Freeza

28th WMAT Pan VS Uub (not enraged by Goku's insults, also 28th WMAT)

Torbie and Tapkar VS Kamiccolo

King Cold without armor VS Base Goku (Yardrat; could use up to Kaioken x20 comfortably) with blonde-dyed hair, green contact lenses, and dressed up in Future Trunk's clothes and equipped with his sword

Android 13 (no tail cutting) VS Movie 10 Full Power Great Ape Broly (Broly WON'T be a SSJ before turning Great Ape)
- I believe #14 beats Mecha Frieza, but just barely. They both got owned by SSJ Trunks, but the former managed to damage him at least.

- Pan wins. Uub can beat her, but his nerves would betray and prevent him from adapting fast enough. Too many factors against Uub: his stage fright, the fact that he's fighting a little girl, the girl's incredible power, and the fact that the crowd would likely be cheering for her. I don't see him mentally being able to handle it.

- I don't remember what Torbie and Tapkar's feats are, so I'll just be biased and say Kamiccolo.

- This is so random. lol. Since it's Goku after his Yardrat training, he has IT, so he may win by catching Cold off-guard and slicing him in half. However, if he lacks the power in his base to pierce through Cold, then King Cold stomps. SSJ is required to win.

- Since Super 13 won't cut his tail, Broly stomps...literally.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:42 pm

SS Vegeta (Cell Games) vs. SS Grade 3 Trunks (1st day RoSaT)*

*speed / strain are non-factors.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:18 pm

Then Trunks. Trunks already surpassed initial Perfect Cell as it is. Vegeta during the Cell Games was even with a Cell Jr. That Cell Jr. should be weaker than Perfect Cell.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:35 am

Saiyan Arc:

Nappa, Vegeta, and the Cultivars are replaced by members of Freeza's band:

Nappa is replaced by Appule.

Vegeta is replaced by Cui.

The six Cultivar are replaced by six of Freeza's grunts; the ones he brought to Namek.

How does this change the outcome of the arc?
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:40 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Saiyan Arc:

Nappa, Vegeta, and the Cultivars are replaced by members of Freeza's band:

Nappa is replaced by Appule.

Vegeta is replaced by Cui.

The six Cultivar are replaced by six of Freeza's grunts; the ones he brought to Namek.

How does this change the outcome of the arc?
It'd be much easier as Freeza's band have proven to be quite cowardly in the faces of a real challenge.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:43 am

The way I see it, it would make it that more difficult to kill the grunts than the Saibamen because the Saibamen seem dumb. Appule gets killed by Goku. Goku with Kaiokenx3 or the Spirit bomb ends up killing Cui. Cui doesn't have Galick gun or the ability to turn Great Ape. And this spirit bomb would be more powerful since Goku won't have to worry about some giant ape messing up the charging time.

Here's a quick one:

Aka VS Kibito Kai (no paralysis/materialization magic)

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Post by Super SaiyaJon » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:51 am

Here are a few Buu arc questions:

Great Ape Vegetto vs Buuhan
SSJ3 Goku (Alive) vs Fat Buu (Majin Vegeta Absorbed)
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:09 am

Super SaiyaJon wrote:Here are a few Buu arc questions:

Great Ape Vegetto vs Buuhan
SSJ3 Goku (Alive) vs Fat Buu (Majin Vegeta Absorbed)
-Vegetto chews Boohan up
-Fat Boo, unless maybe Goku's at full power.

And now let's settle this once and for all....

Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. King Chappa or Chaozu (23rd Budokai w/o psychic abilities or flight)

Oh and these ones....

Lazuli (Android Saga; suppressed) vs. Base Goten or Trunks
Goku (Boo Saga) vs. %50 Final Form Freeza
Reacoom vs. Butta & Jheese
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Diotor » Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:28 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Super SaiyaJon wrote: Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. King Chappa or Chaozu (23rd Budokai w/o psychic abilities or flight)

Oh and these ones....

Lazuli (Android Saga; suppressed) vs. Base Goten or Trunks
Goku (Boo Saga) vs. %50 Final Form Freeza
Reacoom vs. Butta & Jheese
I honestly can't see past Chi Chi if she fights King Chappa. Her official power level is 130, which is more than enough to deal with King Chappa, who I'd estimate is between 50-80

As for the pokemon...I'd maybe give him the edge. Just. There's very little in it.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:08 pm

Diotor wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Super SaiyaJon wrote: Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. King Chappa or Chaozu (23rd Budokai w/o psychic abilities or flight)

Oh and these ones....

Lazuli (Android Saga; suppressed) vs. Base Goten or Trunks
Goku (Boo Saga) vs. %50 Final Form Freeza
Reacoom vs. Butta & Jheese
I honestly can't see past Chi Chi if she fights King Chappa. Her official power level is 130, which is more than enough to deal with King Chappa, who I'd estimate is between 50-80

As for the pokemon...I'd maybe give him the edge. Just. There's very little in it.
I personally have 23rd TB Chaozu even less than 130, given Chaozu's pathetically low potential in terms of gains and the fact he was scared of being killed by Tsuru-sennin (who's PL is 120) in the 22nd Budokai despite supposedly being a "super master".
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Angelus » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:20 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:I don't remember what Torbie and Tapkar's feats are, so I'll just be biased and say Kamiccolo.

- This is so random. lol. Since it's Goku after his Yardrat training, he has IT, so he may win by catching Cold off-guard and slicing him in half. However, if he lacks the power in his base to pierce through Cold, then King Cold stomps. SSJ is required to win.

- Since Super 13 won't cut his tail, Broly stomps...literally.
Check out this link to see how powerful Torbie and Tapkar are: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =8&t=29645

Oh yeah, it's for scare tactics since Goku would look almost exactly like Frieza's murderer. lol

Android 13, not Super, but okay. And remember this is base Broly x10, a lower multiplier than even SSJ. XD
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. King Chappa or Chaozu (23rd Budokai w/o psychic abilities or flight)

Oh and these ones....

Lazuli (Android Saga; suppressed) vs. Base Goten or Trunks
Goku (Boo Saga) vs. %50 Final Form Freeza
Reacoom vs. Butta & Jheese
Chappa or Chaozu win. Roshi deemed Chappa to be a challenge to 22nd WMAT Goku, who is already more powerful than his post-Korin tower climbing self. This would make King Chappa more powerful than Mercenary Tao. Chaozu climbed the Korin tower too.

As of BoG, no base Saiyan can beat Frieza. I don't know how suppressed the android would be but if it's more power that Frieza, then the kids are toast.

Burter and Jeice. One of them is already of similar power level to Recoome.


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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:54 pm

Angelus wrote:Chappa or Chaozu win. Roshi deemed Chappa to be a challenge to 22nd WMAT Goku, who is already more powerful than his post-Korin tower climbing self. This would make King Chappa more powerful than Mercenary Tao. Chaozu climbed the Karin tower too.
That's only cuz of the rumors that Roshi heard of Chappa that made him think he would make him a challenge for Goku and even then, Goku took him out fairly easily without really trying. Even his new and improved self was taken out by a light karate chop to the neck from 23rd Budokai Goku which was stated to not be anywhere near his full power while Goku actually put some effort into avoiding Chi-Chi's attacks, and used quite a bit of force into his kiai (probably more than he intended) which sent her flying at rapid speed bashing her head into a solid concrete wall with barely any damage. She was even good enough to fall into Roshi's radar while in action. Also, Chaozu climbing Karin's tower was filler.
Aka VS Kibito Kai (no paralysis/materialization magic)
Dunno who Aka is but I'd say Kibitoshin stomps.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:06 pm

Super SaiyaJon wrote:Here are a few Buu arc questions:

Great Ape Vegetto vs Buuhan
SSJ3 Goku (Alive) vs Fat Buu (Majin Vegeta Absorbed)
- Vegetto stomps Buuhan. Literally.
- SSJ3 Goku wins with effort
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. King Chappa or Chaozu (23rd Budokai w/o psychic abilities or flight)

Oh and these ones....

Lazuli (Android Saga; suppressed) vs. Base Goten or Trunks
Goku (Boo Saga) vs. %50 Final Form Freeza
Reacoom vs. Butta & Jheese
Aka VS Kibito Kai (no paralysis/materialization magic)
- Chi Chi stomps either King Chappa or Chaouzu.
- Goten or Trunks dominate Lazuli/#18.
- Freeza takes this.
- Hmm... :think: I'd give this to Butta & Jheese. Their team combinations would too much for Reacoom to handle.
- Kibito Kai squashes Aka.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Dunno who Aka is but I'd say Kibitoshin stomps.
Aka is the result of a fusion between the brothers Abo and Kado, the two antagonists in 2008 OVA, Yo Son Goku And His Friends Return. Aka's name isn't given in the OVA itself; Gotenks just calls him "Abokado", combining the brothers' names.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:16 pm

Super SaiyaJon wrote:Here are a few Buu arc questions:

Great Ape Vegetto vs Buuhan
SSJ3 Goku (Alive) vs Fat Buu (Majin Vegeta Absorbed)
Vegito is half Vegeta, who remains in control while in his Great Ape form, so a Great Ape Vegito would annihilate Buuhan.

No reason for Fat Buu w/ Majin Vegeta to lose. Even at full strength, I don't think SSJ3 Goku was THAT MUCH stronger than regular Fat Buu.
Angelus wrote:Android 13, not Super, but okay. And remember this is base Broly x10, a lower multiplier than even SSJ. XD
Oh, in that case...yeah, Broly still stomps. He had a PL of 10,000 as an infant. One can only imagine what his full power in base is as an adult. x10 = bye bye, Android 13.
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And now let's settle this once and for all....

Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. King Chappa or Chaozu (23rd Budokai w/o psychic abilities or flight)

Oh and these ones....

Lazuli (Android Saga; suppressed) vs. Base Goten or Trunks
Goku (Boo Saga) vs. %50 Final Form Freeza
Reacoom vs. Butta & Jheese
I think Chappa would win. I mean, Chi Chi is great, but Chappa was the martial arts champion prior to Jackie Chun. Not sure about Chaozu. Without psychic abilities, I think Chi Chi wins.

Lazuli beats base Goten or Trunk, even suppressed, easily. I don't see Present Trunks being any stronger than Future Trunks, honestly. More in control of his SSJ form, sure, but not stronger or faster.

Goku does to 50% Frieza what GT Kid Goku did to him.

Burter and Jeice win. I believe they were stated to be just as powerful as Reacoom. It'd be speed vs strength and 2 vs 1. Easy win.
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Post by Angelus » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:21 pm

Yes, Aka is from the 2008 OVA.

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