Why is there so much dislike for GT?

[Cetra]

... and he purposely fed Super 17 energy (trying to overfeed him is a pretty weak explanation).

It is not a weak explanation, it is exactly what Goku felt he should do and what he also did against Yakon. He noticed 17 was absorbing it, but was not fully sure about it and how and then he used more power because he felt he could not defeat him if not with this method. He even said that in the original when 17 asked him about just attacking to find out about his absorption. And Goku just said "No, but if that didn't work nothing will".

[DBZAOTA482]

... and he purposely fed Super 17 energy (trying to overfeed him is a pretty weak explanation).

It is not a weak explanation, it is exactly what Goku felt he should do and what he also did against Yakon. He noticed 17 was absorbing it, but was not fully sure about it and how and then he used more power because he felt he could not defeat him if not with this method. He even said that in the original when 17 asked him about just attacking to find out about his absorption. And Goku just said "No, but if that didn't work nothing will".

Yakon was a beast who shallows energy whole. Super 17's energy absorbing doesn't even work like that so letting me have it would just be counter-productive especially since Super 17's already stronger than he is according to your post.

Did he forget what happened with #19?

[Cetra]

... and he purposely fed Super 17 energy (trying to overfeed him is a pretty weak explanation).

It is not a weak explanation, it is exactly what Goku felt he should do and what he also did against Yakon. He noticed 17 was absorbing it, but was not fully sure about it and how and then he used more power because he felt he could not defeat him if not with this method. He even said that in the original when 17 asked him about just attacking to find out about his absorption. And Goku just said "No, but if that didn't work nothing will".

Yakon was a beast who shallows energy whole. Super 17's energy absorbing doesn't even work like that so letting me have it would just be counter-productive especially since Super 17's already stronger than he is according to your post.

Did he forget what happened with #19?

It is not that Goku had much of a choice. He fought Baby who he was not able to defeat before turning Super Saiyajin 4, he wanted to use Final Explosion on 17 and Yi XIng Long - Dragon Ball GT's villains all have provided a very hard challenge for him. Also, I did not say, 17was stronger than him (at least initially he might not have been or not that much) but that Goku could not destroy him as he said. One does not automatically require the other. I mean - 17 was obviously very strong but Goku, while at least standing a bit of a chance, still had no chance to outsmart him, 17 could feel Goku materializing, he seemingly absorbed his energy and got even stronger from that. There is not much to do. Just as many people who know they stand no chance still try to fight for their lives - like Vegeta did when he fought Beerus for the very first time after the others attacked him. He knew Beerus was too strong but there was not much to do. Hell, Goku was even too weak for Freeza. But still he had to try. He did even risk his life with the Kaioken because he needed to. He even risked his son's life against Cell just because he was so sure it would be a good idea to win - so much he shocked Piccolo.

[ABED]

he avoided going to a hospital cuz he automatically assumes he would get a shot

He also did that in DBZ.

That driving episode is one of the best DB filler ever

I feel it's overrated.

[DBZAOTA482]

It is not that Goku had much of a choice. He fought Baby who he was not able to defeat before turning Super Saiyajin 4, he wanted to use Final Explosion on 17 and Yi XIng Long - Dragon Ball GT's villains all have provided a very hard challenge for him. Also, I did not say, 17was stronger than him (at least initially he might not have been or not that much) but that Goku could not destroy him as he said. One does not automatically require the other. I mean - 17 was obviously very strong but Goku, while at least standing a bit of a chance, still had no chance to outsmart him, 17 could feel Goku materializing, he seemingly absorbed his energy and got even stronger from that. There is not much to do. Just as many people who know they stand no chance still try to fight for their lives - like Vegeta did when he fought Beerus for the very first time after the others attacked him. He knew Beerus was too strong but there was not much to do. Hell, Goku was even too weak for Freeza. But still he had to try. He did even risk his life with the Kaioken because he needed to. He even risked his son's life against Cell just because he was so sure it would be a good idea to win - so much he shocked Piccolo.

I understand fighting with the odds stacked against him, but gambling with an already lost battle by purposely putting himself at a disadvantage is pretty stupid to me.

he avoided going to a hospital cuz he automatically assumes he would get a shot

He also did that in DBZ.

He wasn't freaking over going to the Sun Wukong hospital, or the infirmary in Freeza's Spacship like he was in GT. In GT, his logic was:

Doctors = Needles

[ABED]

Yes he was freaking out.

Your logic: It's GT, so somehow it must be worse regardless if the exact same thing happened in DB. At least, that's how it comes across to me. I don't see the difference. He freaked out both times.

Goku lost against 19 because of his heart.

[Lord Beerus]

The driving episode was filler.

Goku actually drives in the manga so he must have been taken driving lessons and aced them as well as his driver test as Goku was seen driving in only a few days.

[ABED]

You don't have to ace a driving exam to pass, and you can take it multiple times. Plus that doesn't prove he's smart. I know a lot of dumb people that drive cars, some of them are even competent behind the wheel. None of this shows that somehow he was dumber in GT.

[LuckyCat]

I think people dislike this series because Toei basically took all the grade B filler from Z and reused or expanded on it.

Examples:
Tsufurus - Race created during Saiyan saga filler which contradicted the manga.
Baby - Mind controlled earth and Z fighters, just like the Garlic Jr. filler. Not a big shocker that the holy mist from filler was used yet again to solve this crisis.
Hell - Didn't exist as a place you could visit, created during Saiyan saga filler and expanded on in the Afterlife Tournament filler. Never mind the soul cleaning mentioned in the manga and all the consequences of being a bad guy.

GT had a great premise but it looks like writers ran out of ideas without Toriyama. It didn't help that instead of following Toriyama's popular material, Toei's unpopular filler was used as the main inspiration.

[Mystic Tien]

I think people dislike this series because Toei basically took all the grade B filler from Z and reused or expanded on it.

Examples:
Tsufurus - Race created during Saiyan saga filler which contradicted the manga.

But Tsufurus exist in Dragon Ball world according to Toriyama.

Hell - Didn't exist as a place you could visit, created during Saiyan saga filler and expanded on in the Afterlife Tournament filler. Never mind the soul cleaning mentioned in the manga and all the consequences of being a bad guy.

And Toriyama seems to depict Hell as well in the new movie.

[Kakacarrottop]

I think people dislike this series because Toei basically took all the grade B filler from Z and reused or expanded on it.

Examples:
Tsufurus - Race created during Saiyan saga filler which contradicted the manga.

But Tsufurus exist in Dragon Ball world according to Toriyama.

Everything exists in Dragon Ball world according to Toriyama. I've never heard him going out of his way to call something non-canon.

[Dyno]

Tsufuru/Tsufurujins actually became canon (part of the manga continuity) recently in one of those new interviews. Of course, Toriyama's concept of them will (if ever they appear) be different than what have been shown to us all these years.

[FoolsGil]

You remember that one time Pan got Dr. Gero in a chokehold? Let's forget that somehow, Gero got out due to HFIL stupidity with allowing murderous scientists technology. Let's focus on a girl, that is not even a Super Saiyan, got the drop on Gero. (Keep in mind that decades prior, Goku and Vegeta had to be Super Saiyans to dominate 19 and 20) And then, Gero gave in, instead of, grabbing her while she held him, and absorb her chi. So what, you forgot about your main ability? You even forgot how to fight someone who should be weaker than you by far? And hell, why didn't you upgrade yourself with the tech you used to make a Hell Fighter? Really.

That is another example, of why I don't like GT.

[DBZAOTA482]

You remember that one time Pan got Dr. Gero in a chokehold? Let's forget that somehow, Gero got out due to HFIL stupidity with allowing murderous scientists technology. Let's focus on a girl, that is not even a Super Saiyan, got the drop on Gero. (Keep in mind that decades prior, Goku and Vegeta had to be Super Saiyans to dominate 19 and 20) And then, Gero gave in, instead of, grabbing her while she held him, and absorb her chi. So what, you forgot about your main ability? You even forgot how to fight someone who should be weaker than you by far? And hell, why didn't you upgrade yourself with the tech you used to make a Hell Fighter? Really.

Oh yeah, forgot about that. That's a pretty big one since the final fight in the saga is based around this ability. Another addition to GT logic.

[ABED]

You remember that one time Pan got Dr. Gero in a chokehold? Let's forget that somehow, Gero got out due to HFIL stupidity with allowing murderous scientists technology. Let's focus on a girl, that is not even a Super Saiyan, got the drop on Gero. (Keep in mind that decades prior, Goku and Vegeta had to be Super Saiyans to dominate 19 and 20) And then, Gero gave in, instead of, grabbing her while she held him, and absorb her chi. So what, you forgot about your main ability? You even forgot how to fight someone who should be weaker than you by far? And hell, why didn't you upgrade yourself with the tech you used to make a Hell Fighter? Really.

<br abp="687">Oh yeah, forgot about that. That's a pretty big one since the final fight in the saga is based around this ability. Another addition to GT logic.

Once again, lets heap crap on GT for something also happens in DB. I'm not talking about the particulars, but I'm sure people can find a ridiculous "this character his this ability but doesn't use it in this fight". Please stop pretending that it's relegated to GT.

[Mystic Tien]

I think people dislike this series because Toei basically took all the grade B filler from Z and reused or expanded on it.

Examples:
Tsufurus - Race created during Saiyan saga filler which contradicted the manga.

But Tsufurus exist in Dragon Ball world according to Toriyama.

Everything exists in Dragon Ball world according to Toriyama. I've never heard him going out of his way to call something non-canon.

What I meant was that Toriyama even considers Tsufurus, for example he clearly doesn't consider Cooler judging by his interviews, nor he even remembers about him (or at least I think so). But he said in his interviews that Tsufurus were the ones who made scouters.

[Cetra]

This "GT Logic" rant going around the internet is probably even more annoying than the canon debate itself. And the worst thing about is how DB and DBZ are defended once their flaws are stated and the defence is used to ultimately justify those mistakes while the fact that DBGT has also been written by fallible human beings will never be accepted to justify those errors. However this comes from fans who at the same time post stories full of errors. What would world be without hypocrisy.

[Mystic Tien]

This "GT Logic" rant going around the internet is probably even more annoying than the canon debate itself. And the worst thing about is how DB and DBZ are defended once their flaws are stated and the defence is used to ultimately justify those mistakes while the fact that DBGT has also been written by fallible human beings will never be accepted to justify those errors. However this comes from fans who at the same time post stories full of errors. What would world be without hypocrisy.

Well, I kind of agree with you. DBZ itself has a lot of flaws.

[Basaku]

Positives greatly outwight flaws in DB and DBZ so no wonder people are on the accepting side

[Cetra]

Positives greatly outwight flaws in DB and DBZ so no wonder people are on the accepting side

Which is basically the same kind of excuse everyone uses. "It is so much better", "Of course it has flaws it was written in 10 years". But that is not the point. The point is, it is written by someone who makes mistakes nonetheless. And GT has very enjoyable things if people just give it a real chance and not just pretend to do so.