That's not Freeza. He's not a Saturday morning cartoon. He's almost apathetic until you piss him off. I don't know what to say other than I didn't find any of the lines you mentioned as particularly dark. It feels too one the nose cartoonish evil. The delivery didn't help matters.I don't know about you, but personally, I found the dissonance between his brutality and the mordant quips that accompanied it rather darkly amusing.
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Which is why I agree with Mike/VegettoEX:ABED wrote:That's not Freeza. He's not a Saturday morning cartoon. He's almost apathetic until you piss him off. I don't know what to say other than I didn't find any of the lines you mentioned as particularly dark. It feels too one the nose cartoonish evil. The delivery didn't help matters.I don't know about you, but personally, I found the dissonance between his brutality and the mordant quips that accompanied it rather darkly amusing.
If Linda Young's Freeza is what you prefer, then you don't actually like Freeza. Or at the very least, prefer not-really-Freeza.
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That's not fair to say. People can read the manga and like Frieza, but still prefer Linda Young over Ayres as the character's VA.
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That doesn't mean he doesn't like Freeza, it just means that he likes a different version of Freeza. That's like saying a fan of the Dub isn't actually a fan of Dragon Ball. It's just a different version.KaiserNeko wrote:Which is why I agree with Mike/VegettoEX:ABED wrote:That's not Freeza. He's not a Saturday morning cartoon. He's almost apathetic until you piss him off. I don't know what to say other than I didn't find any of the lines you mentioned as particularly dark. It feels too one the nose cartoonish evil. The delivery didn't help matters.I don't know about you, but personally, I found the dissonance between his brutality and the mordant quips that accompanied it rather darkly amusing.
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It isn't actually Freeza. It's another country's interpretation of the character that contradicts the original anime and the source material.Tatakae!!Ramenman wrote: That doesn't mean he doesn't like Freeza, it just means that he likes a different version of Freeza. That's like saying a fan of the Dub isn't actually a fan of Dragon Ball. It's just a different version.
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So are all modern superhero movies not the real movies for those superheros?
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Yeah, when you drastically alter the personality of a character, it's really not the same character anymore.
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You know, people don't have to dislike one portrayal to like the other more... >_>;
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True, but it doesn't feel as much a different interpretation of the same character as it does a completely different character. Like her, fine, but they aren't the same.fadeddreams5 wrote:You know, people don't have to dislike one portrayal to like the other more... >_>;
A big difference is that American superheroes typically have numerous authors with their own take that constantly evolves. DB is one story written by one man.So are all modern superhero movies not the real movies for those superheros?
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I agree with Mike strongly on this. It's so true.KaiserNeko wrote:Which is why I agree with Mike/VegettoEX:ABED wrote:That's not Freeza. He's not a Saturday morning cartoon. He's almost apathetic until you piss him off. I don't know what to say other than I didn't find any of the lines you mentioned as particularly dark. It feels too one the nose cartoonish evil. The delivery didn't help matters.I don't know about you, but personally, I found the dissonance between his brutality and the mordant quips that accompanied it rather darkly amusing.
If Linda Young's Freeza is what you prefer, then you don't actually like Freeza.
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The voice isn't intrinsically linked with that dialogue though, Young did a number of video games with accurately translated dialogue in between Z and Kai and did a reasonable job of portraying the real Freeza there. Of course, I'm still in the Ayres camp myself, but I feel the point should be made there. (Of course, if the season 3 dialogue is what they prefer to the original, then yeah, that's not Freeza at all.)KaiserNeko wrote:If Linda Young's Freeza is what you prefer, then you don't actually like Freeza. Or at the very least, prefer not-really-Freeza.
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Fair enough, but I don't agree that she's good even with better dialog, just less bad.SaiyamanMS wrote:<br abp="688">The voice isn't intrinsically linked with that dialogue though, Young did a number of video games with accurately translated dialogue in between Z and Kai and did a reasonable job of portraying the real Freeza there. Of course, I'm still in the Ayres camp myself, but I feel the point should be made there. (Of course, if the season 3 dialogue is what they prefer to the original, then yeah, that's not Freeza at all.)KaiserNeko wrote:If Linda Young's Freeza is what you prefer, then you don't actually like Freeza. Or at the very least, prefer not-really-Freeza.
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Mike couldn't have summed it up any better.KaiserNeko wrote:Which is why I agree with Mike/VegettoEX:
If Linda Young's Freeza is what you prefer, then you don't actually like Freeza. Or at the very least, prefer not-really-Freeza.
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Pauline Newstone was pretty damn awesome as Freeza! Sounds snake-like and somewhat similar to Ayres actually! Her pissed off Freeza is fantastic! Her speaking voice has a hint of a faux-British accent when Freeza speaks. Behind the voice actors has a great clip of Newstone speaking and getting mad. It suits Freeza
But Ayres wins this time.
But listen to pissed off Newstone Freeza here! It's awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rqSJpSykeI
But Ayres wins this time.
But listen to pissed off Newstone Freeza here! It's awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rqSJpSykeI
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Yeah it is!Attitudefan wrote:Pauline Newstone was pretty damn awesome as Freeza! Sounds snake-like and somewhat similar to Ayres actually! Her pissoed off Freeza is fantastic! Her speaking voice has a hint of a faux-British accent when Freeza speaks. Behind the voice actors has a great clip of Newstone speaking and getting mad. It suits Freeza
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Wow. That's... kinda good.Attitudefan wrote:But listen to pissed off Newstone Freeza here! It's awesome!
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That's far from Saturday morning cartoon fare; I would very much be interested in seeing if you can provide an example of one analogous to FUNimation Frieza. Not to mention that's such a broad and ill-defined category in itself.ABED wrote:That's not Freeza. He's not a Saturday morning cartoon. He's almost apathetic until you piss him off. I don't know what to say other than I didn't find any of the lines you mentioned as particularly dark. It feels too one the nose cartoonish evil. The delivery didn't help matters.I don't know about you, but personally, I found the dissonance between his brutality and the mordant quips that accompanied it rather darkly amusing.
This is a Saturday morning cartoon villain. Would you say he conforms to your concept of one?
I do like Frieza--I like FUNimation's Frieza.If Linda Young's Freeza is what you prefer, then you don't actually like Freeza. Or at the very least, prefer not-really-Freeza.
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Yeah! She had such a short time as Freeza she goes unnoticed. Her acting is superb! I'm glad I got some people such as yourself come in with an open mind and see how good she was.Lord Beerus wrote:Wow. That's... kinda good.Attitudefan wrote:But listen to pissed off Newstone Freeza here! It's awesome!
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Young sounds nothing like Newstone, and Young as Freeza is a complete miscast. Young could not portray that aristocratic, but authoritative voice like Ayres or Newstone can do.
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Saturday morning cartoon villains often make threats and cheesy jokes to the heroes about how they are going to hurt them. While not a cartoon, it might as well be, but Power Rangers villains often delivered that kind of dialog. Some of those things could be something Skeletor or Shredder would say.
Which is what we should call it because it's not Lord Freeza.I like FUNimation's Freeza.
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I personally never found Newstone's Freeza voice very authoritative at all. To me, she made Freeza sound like a frail old woman even more so than Young.Attitudefan wrote:Yeah! She had such a short time as Freeza she goes unnoticed. Her acting is superb! I'm glad I got some people such as yourself come in with an open mind and see how good she was.Lord Beerus wrote:Wow. That's... kinda good.Attitudefan wrote:But listen to pissed off Newstone Freeza here! It's awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rqSJpSykeI![]()
Young sounds nothing like Newstone, and Young as Freeza is a complete miscast. Young could not portray that aristocratic, but authoritative voice like Ayres or Newstone can do.