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Barring one error in one of the Daizenshuu, Bra has always been labelled 1 year younger than Pan in guidebooks since then.Deathbringer wrote:Also someone said that Majin Boo won't be there and we also won't see Bra (who should have already been seen in Battle of Gods I swear?? Isn't she older than Pan?!!)
The preview Manga has Gohan saying he was ordered by Bulma not to bring Goten and Trunks with him, as they are too reckless. Majin Buu is stated to be in hibernation, as per a Toriyama comment in a recent interview. And Tenshinhan had his usual line about not bringing Chaozu, but now that also includes Yamcha, because Tenshinhan is also babysitting him.So are people saying this just because we haven't seen these characters in trailers or is there a genuine confirmation source for which characters will and won't be in the movie?
Agreed. It could seem Toriyama wanted to make this a bit more serious, so he kept out the immature kids and goofy Majin Buu and Mr. Satan and gave the older forgotten characters some time to shine and make it look more serious.Kinda bummed out if the Goten and Trunks one turns out to be true, they should have given them a slightly older look because I thought they should have looked a bit older in BoG but now they won't even be in the movie just what...?
But they're already designed lol. EOZ anyone? Toriyama could even add his new signature "recolor" technique for them in the movie! Seirously though it's just ridiculous if they're not even in the movie...dbgtFO wrote: Maybe that's the reasoning. Maybe he doesn't want to design teenage Goten and Trunks? Marron looks like she's going to be stuck in a 4 year old's body for a quite a while for example...
Yamcha is on a completely different level from master Roshi, so are Chiaotzu and Yajirobe, so them not appearing in this movie, yet Roshi appearing and actually fighting doesn't make a single bit of sense.Deathbringer wrote:It's a shame really, I can't imagine Goten and Trunks just sitting quietly and waiting for the fight to be over, surely if Roshi is fighting then they're strong enough to at least hang back and take out some henchmen (although "too reckless" suggests they would get overconfident and go straight for Freeza) I'm also pretty sure that Yamcha is on Master Roshi's level, if not stronger (but then again he did give up fighting during the Boo arc...but then again Roshi gave up fighting in the Piccolo Daimao arc! And didn't Yamcha regain his love of fighting in the afterlife or was that filler?) Chaotzu I was always a fan of but I eventually gave up all hope of seeing him in a fight again it's just such a shame he only ever had 2 fights and the second one wasn't really a fight more of a self-sacrifice that was entirely in vain and then he was never relevant again.
Either way if they did show up they'll probably just be used to fight Freeza's army as can be seen from the trailer (and also presumed from the film's length) even though it'll be awesome to see Tenshinhan and Roshi fighting again they don't seem to have any proper contribution to the story. Contrary to popular belief, Dragon Ball Z is more than just a bunch of fights, sadly it's a belief that Toriyama himself seems to be buying into with this movie.
But you never know, anything could happen we'll just have to see what happens.
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
Well he did make an appearance in BOG, so you never know.Kakacarrottop wrote:That film better have Farmer with a Shot-Gun. It's about time Toriyama stopped shafting his character development.
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
That is actually rather strange. What could have happened with them?Hellspawn28 wrote:It looks like Elder Kaioshin and Kibitoshin are nowhere to be seen. They usually like to watch over Goku when fighting.
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
Everyone who was invited to train at Kami's during the Saiyan saga made up the strongest people on the planet at the time, so Chaozu was already stronger than Kamesennin way back then.FoolsGil wrote:Surely Chaozu is stronger than Master Roshi. That's not a dig on Master Roshi either, I'm glad he's flexing and apparently have been doing secret training, but can't we have both characters?
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Chaozu is probably still weaker than most of the Ginyu Force.FoolsGil wrote:Surely Chaozu is stronger than Master Roshi. That's not a dig on Master Roshi either, I'm glad he's flexing and apparently have been doing secret training, but can't we have both characters?
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
Roshi could be weaker than all of the Ginyu force. Plus all they would do is mow down minor level PTOs, not take on anybody tough.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Chaozu is probably still weaker than most of the Ginyu Force.FoolsGil wrote:Surely Chaozu is stronger than Master Roshi. That's not a dig on Master Roshi either, I'm glad he's flexing and apparently have been doing secret training, but can't we have both characters?
But Chaozu's also an idiot. Remember?FoolsGil wrote:Roshi could be weaker than all of the Ginyu force. Plus all they would do is mow down minor level PTOs, not take on anybody tough.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Chaozu is probably still weaker than most of the Ginyu Force.FoolsGil wrote:Surely Chaozu is stronger than Master Roshi. That's not a dig on Master Roshi either, I'm glad he's flexing and apparently have been doing secret training, but can't we have both characters?
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
I do believe he's learned math by now, it's been 30+ years since he lost to Krillin.DBZAOTA482 wrote:But Chaozu's also an idiot. Remember?
