Why is there so much dislike for GT?

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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Basaku » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:41 pm

Cetra wrote:And GT has very enjoyable things if people just give it a real chance and not just pretend to do so.
Or it is simply worse than previous arcs and no amount of genuine "giving it a chance" will change it.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by ABED » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:49 pm

The Buu arc is a mixed bag, I'll take much of GT over most of that, especially that ending. GT isn't great, but it has a charm to it. My biggest wish is that people would stop condemning it for things that also happen in Toriyama's story.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Cetra » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:57 pm

Basaku wrote:
Cetra wrote:And GT has very enjoyable things if people just give it a real chance and not just pretend to do so.
Or it is simply worse than previous arcs and no amount of genuine "giving it a chance" will change it.
Too bad that this "simply" is not all that simple. But I am used to people not understanding how to talk about different relations. I am done talking with people about that who are all just the same so don't bother answering again. This is no use.

EDIT; And they didn't give it a chance is no excuse. Hating something without reason makes no real sense as argument except peer pressure.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:32 pm

A lot of those people didn't even watched GT.
They just follow the hate flow. No different from Yamcha, Krillin and other jokes.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Basaku » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:34 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:A lot of those people didn't even watched GT.
They just follow the hate flow. No different from Yamcha, Krillin and other jokes.
And if they did watch it and still think it's subpar compared to DB/DBZ? Excuses like "didn't give it a chance/didn't watch" are no better arguments than hating on GT without reason
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:39 pm

I gave it a chance and gave up after episode 17 for a variety of reasons. I know it gets better later on but the first 16 episodes, and Pan left an awful taste in my mouth that I want none of.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Drayenko » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:48 pm

Oh Pan. A character with such a gigantic potential. Gets to be an annoying thing in GT.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:57 pm

Basaku wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:A lot of those people didn't even watched GT.
They just follow the hate flow. No different from Yamcha, Krillin and other jokes.
And if they did watch it and still think it's subpar compared to DB/DBZ? Excuses like "didn't give it a chance/didn't watch" are no better arguments than hating on GT without reason
Well, those are the other people.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:40 pm

Hey, remember that one time Chi Chi and Videl decided to go after Super 17 with a broom? Man...those were...bad stupid times. :eh: Another example of why I dislike GT.
ABED wrote:]Once again, lets heap crap on GT for something also happens in DB. I'm not talking about the particulars, but I'm sure people can find a ridiculous "this character his this ability but doesn't use it in this fight". Please stop pretending that it's relegated to GT.
It was a Freeza tier fighter being manhandled by someone who is less likely weaker than Captain Ginyu, in a shonen anime. There is nothing in Dragonball or Z that is akin to that. Nothing.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Mystic Tien » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:43 pm

FoolsGil wrote:
It was a Freeza tier fighter being manhandled by someone who is less likely weaker than Captain Ginyu, in a shonen anime. There is nothing in Dragonball or Z that is akin to that. Nothing.
Do you mean Pan? :o Because she is supposed to be stronger than Buu.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:47 pm

Mystic Tien wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:
It was a Freeza tier fighter being manhandled by someone who is less likely weaker than Captain Ginyu, in a shonen anime. There is nothing in Dragonball or Z that is akin to that. Nothing.
Do you mean Pan? :o Because she is supposed to be stronger than Buu.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Dyno » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:25 pm

FoolsGil wrote:She's not even a Super Saiyan! What is wrong with this show! :x
Dragon Ball Heroes will make it! Just wait hopefully. :wink:
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:33 pm

Dyno wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:She's not even a Super Saiyan! What is wrong with this show! :x
Dragon Ball Heroes will make it! Just wait hopefully. :wink:
I'm not digging on the fact she's not a Super Saiyan. Why do I dislike GT? Because Power Levels are bullshit normally, and in GT they're bullshit to the Nth degree! Pan is not even formally trained, and gets by on luck more than anything, and now I'm being told that she's stronger than Buu? Bullshit. Even Giving her SSJ2 won't fix this.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Drayenko » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:53 pm

FoolsGil wrote:Pan is not even formally trained
She was trained by Goku and learned how to fly. So yeah, no.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:06 pm

Drayenko wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:Pan is not even formally trained
She was trained by Goku and learned how to fly. So yeah, no.
when? And even if he did, everything else I said still stands.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Drayenko » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:49 pm

End of the manga.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Fionordequester » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:02 am

Drayenko wrote:End of the manga.
The end of the manga was an outlier from an otherwise very well written show. Yes, Z makes some of the mistakes GT did, but it doesn't do so in nearly as drastic a manner, and it has it's own strengths to make up for whatever shortcomings it may have had, imo.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Rocketman » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:08 am

Super Saiyan 4 is a really well-designed form that naturally evolves from combining the two great abilities of the Saiyan race. The crap transformations of the new movies can't hold a candle to it.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:10 pm

Cetra wrote:And GT has very enjoyable things if people just give it a real chance and not just pretend to do so.
Battlefield Earth and Batman & Robin has enjoyable things in it and I give them a real chance. The movie is still shit. Most people that dislike GT seen the show and have their reasons why they don't like it.
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Re: Why is there so much dislike for GT?

Post by bleed0range » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:33 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
Cetra wrote:And GT has very enjoyable things if people just give it a real chance and not just pretend to do so.
Battlefield Earth has enjoyable things in it and I give it a real chance. The movie is still shit. Most people that dislike GT seen the show and have their reasons why they don't like it.
I have never actually met anyone who told me GT was better then DB or DBZ. I've seen lots of people try to defend it as "not as bad as everyone says" many times... but mostly everyone agrees it's not as good. And it's sort of in the same way the TOEI movies mostly don't stack up to the manga/anime in story quality. There are things to like about it, yeah, but it's not as good. It's pretty unanimous among fans. I've never heard a fan say any arc of GT was better then an arc of DBZ. It's hard to compete with stuff like Goku "helping" Gohan do a one-handed KameHameHa on his own... becoming a man and taking his father's place. Stuff as strong as that just isn't in GT.
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