Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Ryuman]

With that can we just pretend that this movie never happened and it is just a filler? I don't consider most of TOEI movies because of continuity errors and GT because of its plot holes, maybe we could do the same with this movie

Do you wanna discount a lot of the series proper, in that case?

Anyway, sometimes I imagine what the rage would be like if everyone here was around the the series was actually in serialization...

[FortuneSSJ]

-About blue ssjg-

"Think about the temperature of fire. It starts off yellow, eventually turns red and finally ends up blue. The same goes for a lighter or the life of a star. This is just following that natural pattern. Pretty clever Toriyama."

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[Zephyr]

But if the 1.37 million statement is accurate it simply contradicts the manga and is an error.

With that can we just pretend that this movie never happened and it is just a filler? I don't consider most of TOEI movies because of continuity errors and GT because of its plot holes, maybe we could do the same with this movie

If that's the sole criteria you're using, you'd logically have to pretend that the manga didn't happen either.

[Cold Skin]

Why was this movie being praised by Akira's editor again?

Because it's great even by a tough, professional editor's standards, which means that if you bitch about it you are really a nitpicky fan that will never be satisfied?
I don't know, it would come up as the most likely explanation given the circumstances.

We're VERY lucky that fans weren't able to communicate worldwide during the original Dragon Ball run and most previous movies, because there are a lot more things that would have made them bitch about everything as if they knew better as the story progressed.
This is the only difference between back then and today: we have the same men doing what they do and telling the story they want, it's just that today fans have become able to instantly scream out loud for any little thing that rubs them the wrong way (sometimes even before seeing what it's like on screen) instead of waiting for it to sink in, and they can instantly reunite to bitch about things, so the whole web world is caught in a whirlstorm of negativity and critisizing everything as if they have a right to decide things better than ALL professionals behind it.
And that's not just for Dragon Ball, it's for every movie and TV show: fans will really try to teach writers and all others about their job as if they know better, certainly not waiting to see the bigger picture!

The fact that the story and designs are not what you would have done is precisely what makes it interesting to be told a story by someone else.
For example, I would like Goten and Trunks to grow more stylish and mature, but I would never be disappointed if Toriyama doesn't do that with them, much less say "he serves us crap with Goten and Trunks, that's stupid of him not to make them like this and like that".

[ArchedThunder]

-About blue ssjg-

"Think about the temperature of fire. It starts off yellow, eventually turns red and finally ends up blue. The same goes for a lighter or the life of a star. This is just following that natural pattern. Pretty clever Toriyama."

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Red comes before yellow in heat.

[FortuneSSJ]

Why even bring Freeza back? He died accomplishing nothing with his revenge, this is bad for his character.

Did the other villains accomplish anything?! He did much more that any other one, even before this movie coming out.
Bad for his character?! You didn't saw Fusion Reborn.

The ending about he trigger the way/run for other universe would be the best though.
Kill the bad guy in end is one of the things I loved the most that didn't happen in BOG. Too shounen.

[Doctor.]

Why even bring Freeza back? He died accomplishing nothing with his revenge, this is bad for his character.

Did the other villains accomplish anything?! He did much more that any other one, even before this movie coming out.
Bad for his character?! You didn't saw Fusion Reborn.

The ending about he trigger the way/run for other universe would be the best though.

Yes they did. Granted, they were all reversed thanks to the Dragon Balls later, but they still had the effort to find them all. I would have much preferred it for Goku to go to Namek to revive everyone rather than Whis snap his fingers and everything be restored.

[SansrivaaL]

Well now I'm more excited to watch this than ever. Oh april 18 why must u be so far!

[SSJGFrieza]

almost 2am

aww hell i'm going to be maybe Julian's summary will be up by then

[sintzu]

The ending about he trigger the way/run for other universe would be the best though.

I think what we got was more interesting.

Freeza dying was part of Sarbot's plan ? who is he ? by looking at him he doesn't look like someone who can pull something big on his own so he's probably working for someone.

[FortuneSSJ]

I would have much preferred it for Goku to go to Namek to revive everyone rather than Whis snap his fingers and everything be restored.

If they would be revived in the end, I don't see any point in dragging this story any longer.
I rather have a new one for the next movie.

The ending about he trigger the way/run for other universe would be the best though.

I think what we got was more interesting.
Freeza dying was part of Sarbot's plan ? who is he ? by looking at him he doesn't look like someone who can pull something big on his own so he's probably working for someone.

I didn't know about this part, man. Are you sure Sorbet wasn't talking about Goku's defeat?!

[Blade]

Maybe it says something about the drab nature of the work I'm procrastinating on, but it's actually sort-of fun circumnavigating my way around this thread, through the dregs of complaints and baseless tittle-tatle, for even small, remote islands of actual information, no matter how slightly tangible.

But yeah, based on what we've heard so far, everything coming out of people who've attended the screening sounds pretty plausible and somewhat to be expected based on what we've seen from the trailers. I'm sure that when all is said and done, the dust settled, and a detailed synopsis released, this film will fall in with lot of other stuff Toriyama has done, where it simply is what it is - simple and enjoyable at a surface level.

[Cold Skin]

Whis' powers are awesome but very limited, they can't always save the day: he can go only 3 minutes back.
It's a useful asset, but it requires that he's around, as there would clearly not always be time to track him down and make him rewind through events when there's a catastrophy.
They were lucky this time that Goku and Vegeta are his pupils and that the reason he's above them watching them the whole time is just that: he's watching how his pupils are doing.

[Noah]

If that's the sole criteria you're using, you'd logically have to pretend that the manga didn't happen either.

Taking Red Ribbon Arc plot hole, what else we got in the manga?

[Doctor.]

And also, I myself an extremely twisted person. So if, on a reader’s postcard, it was written “That’s this, and this’ll happen like this”, then I’d deliberately go with a development where that didn’t happen, and if a certain character got fairly popular, I’d deliberately kill him.

I cannot understand this man.

[Kamiccolo9]

And also, I myself an extremely twisted person. So if, on a reader’s postcard, it was written “That’s this, and this’ll happen like this”, then I’d deliberately go with a development where that didn’t happen, and if a certain character got fairly popular, I’d deliberately kill him.

I cannot understand this man.

He's a professional troll. People used to think it was funny, but it's more popular to bash him for it now instead, I guess.

[SansrivaaL]

And also, I myself an extremely twisted person. So if, on a reader’s postcard, it was written “That’s this, and this’ll happen like this”, then I’d deliberately go with a development where that didn’t happen, and if a certain character got fairly popular, I’d deliberately kill him.

I cannot understand this man.

Guess that proves it, he's a sadist troll author. I respect that, Sorachi is way more sadistic and trolly than he is.

[dbzfan7]

And also, I myself an extremely twisted person. So if, on a reader’s postcard, it was written “That’s this, and this’ll happen like this”, then I’d deliberately go with a development where that didn’t happen, and if a certain character got fairly popular, I’d deliberately kill him.

I cannot understand this man.

He's a professional troll. People used to think it was funny, but it's more popular to bash him for it now instead, I guess.

So is Hideo Kojima, though I think Kojima handles trolling better.

[Blade]

Whis' powers are awesome but very limited, they can't always save the day: he can go only 3 minutes back.
It's a useful asset, but it requires that he's around, as there would clearly not always be time to track him down and make him rewind through events when there's a catastrophy.
They were lucky this time that Goku and Vegeta are his pupils and that the reason he's above them watching them the whole time is just that: he's watching how his pupils are doing.

You can do a lot with 3 minutes hindsight, but I guess it depends exactly how fast you're able to react to events around you and be sufficiently decisive to rectify them. I think it's a good power, and befitting of a Godly being, without itself being too limitless.

[Deathbringer]

If that's the sole criteria you're using, you'd logically have to pretend that the manga didn't happen either.

Taking Red Ribbon Arc plot hole, what else we got in the manga?

Goku going to the moon and back in the early manga but somehow struggling to think of how he would be able to climb all the way to Kami's lookout