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Post by Barunks » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:46 pm

Why hasn't the main site updated with any info?

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Post by Drayenko » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:47 pm

AM Reflection wrote:
Zombie wrote:What was the point to bring him back just to kill him again this quickly?

What a complete waste. :thumbdown:
Tell me about it. My lowest expectations for this movie were not as bad as what I've read so far.

Seriously, all of this for Freeza to die in a 90 minute movie?
I've convinced myself. It's just a movie like all the other movies, so whatever. It doesn't fit into anything. Never happened.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:48 pm

Barunks wrote:Why hasn't the main site updated with any info?
Because Julian is still working on his summary. He's an adult, has a life with young children and is stuck traveling today.

He'll get to it when he can, just be patient.
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Post by Neon Z » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:57 pm

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SSJGFrieza wrote:Goku is DB's equivalent of John Cena getting wins he shouldn't and hogging the spotlight.
Goku's record against main villains from the manga is kinda lousy when you look at it. He's lost against Tao Pai Pai, Tenshinhan, King Piccolo, Raditz, Vegeta, Ginyu, #19, Cell, Majin Vegeta and technically Majin Boo. This is really only the second time he's ever killed a manga villain on his own.
Is this really "killing on his own" when he had go out of the fight to recover, and also needed Whis' time abilities to send him back to it, and Freeza's power was constantly draining? He gets the last attack, but it hardly sounds like a fair one vs one match.

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Post by Sandubadear » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:10 pm

Does Shisami (red bull guy) have any lines? Who's his voice actor?
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Post by Noah » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:11 pm

Well, I going to expect till I see the movie but as I'm reading now it seems kinda disappointing
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Post by GsTvo » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:13 pm

kei17 wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:1. Do Beerus and/or Whis fight?
Whis fights during a training of Goku and Vegeta. Beerus never does.
2. Who defeats Freeza?
Goku.
3. Do Buu, Goten, or Trunks appear at all?
No, not at all.
4. Do any of Freeza's soldiers survive?
The Z warriors take them down without killing them, but Freeza kills them off all himself.
Wow , all this time waiting for something "new " and Toriyama bring us the same shit...

I'm guessing thats why some fans lose his hope with the autor.

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Post by Noah » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:16 pm

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Noah wrote:Besides you guys don't feel kinda bad about knowing such story spoilers? I said before that I would not come to this thread when these come to light, but I was consumed by my curiosity

It would be better to be surprised when watching in theaters, though
Nah, even after the summary, we'll still not get a lot of small details, besides one thing is reading a summary, and the other is watching the movie by yourself. Completely different experiences. To be honest, there weren't much things (from what we got from spoilers) to be surprised anyway. A lot of people predicted Whis using time rewind when 2nd chapter of FnF manga was revealed. A lot of people expected Goku to win, and Vegeta putting up a good fight. A lot of people expected Freeza destroying the Earth (heck, it was shown in the trailer) and being beaten by Goku again, with him maybe somehow even surviving after that. I personally expected to see someone from Jaco in this movie, and there was a fake art of Tights from FnF flowing around here quite a time ago. So nothing much to be surprised about so far :D
Well I can agree with that... But I would expect a better ending for Freeza, if he only was brought back to be killed again why bring back he anyway?

As said several times in this thread, a movie about the new introduced universes concept and with a new antagonist would be far better than that, for sure
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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:19 pm

Sandubadear wrote:Does Shisami (red bull guy) have any lines? Who's his voice actor?
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Post by Ajay » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:20 pm

Sandubadear wrote:Does Shisami (red bull guy) have any lines? Who's his voice actor?
Yes, his voice actor is Tetsu Inada aka Nappa in Kai and Gamagoori in Kill la Kill.

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Post by Beerus-sama » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:23 pm

Noah wrote:
Well I can agree with that... But I would expect a better ending for Freeza, if he only was brought back to be killed again why bring back he anyway?

As said several times in this thread, a movie about the new introduced universes concept and with a new antagonist would be far better than that, for sure
Because fans wanted to have a movie full of action, so bringing back Freeza is the easiest way to give them that and at the same time there won't be much explanation about why he's there and what he want.
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Post by MagicBox » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:26 pm

Sandubadear wrote:Does Shisami (red bull guy) have any lines? Who's his voice actor?
I believe it was confirmed to be Tetsu Inada (Nappa in Kai).

EDIT: Ninja Attack!!!!!

Very ballsy of them to not show Goten and Trunks at all, considering child characters appeal to the child demographic. They ignored an easy advertising opportunity, and I applaud them for it. Things aren't looking good for Yamcha or Chaozu, though.

I'm glad Freeza's dead again. What did people expect? It's the fate he deserves, and a premise like this is only good enough for one movie. Hundreds of pages ago people were freaking out over the possibility that he wouldn't be killed.

I know I don't have any say in the matter, but I wouldn't object to this thread being locked and then re-opened once the summary is posted. Nothing substantial is being contributed, nobody is reading the moderator posts, and I've had just about all I can take of people calling everything "shit." This isn't YouTube.
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Post by Chuquita » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:27 pm

Is this the first Dragon Ball movie we've had without any child protagonists in the main cast? :shock:

Bull guy is Gamagoori? Nice. X3

Man am I hungry for a detailed summary, but I understand very much the why of it not being here yet. T_T
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Post by SSJGFrieza » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:27 pm

Beerus-sama wrote:Because fans wanted to have a movie full of action, so bringing back Freeza is the easiest way to give them that and at the same time there won't be much explanation about why he's there and what he want.
AT could have done that by bringing in a new God of Destruction instead of pointlessly bringing back Freeza.
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Post by Noah » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:29 pm

Beerus-sama wrote:Because fans wanted to have a movie full of action, so bringing back Freeza is the easiest way to give them that and at the same time there won't be much explanation about why he's there and what he want.
And can't we have plenty of action with comedy with a new introduced concept and antagonist?

Freeza is the best DB villain, but his time was over, this movie makes him looks overrated
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Post by Drayenko » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:31 pm

Beerus-sama wrote: Because fans wanted to have a movie full of action.
Where is that coming from? I'm seeing it a lot now. As if Toriyama went to different forums and said "Oh, 3000 fans want mindless action." Seriously.
MagicBox wrote: I'm glad Freeza's dead again. What did people expect? It's the fate he deserves, and a premise like this is only good enough for one movie. Hundreds of pages ago people were freaking out over the possibility that he wouldn't be killed.
We are introduced to the concept of different universes. The whole idea of bringing Freeza back without thinking on a "bigger" scale is just bad. Real bad.

Seriously, I'm dying to watch the movie, but since the beginning I feel everything about this production has been a bad idea.
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:32 pm

I was hoping there'd be an actual backstory for Freeza. Oh, well.
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Post by Doctor. » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:34 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:I was hoping there'd be an actual backstory for Freeza. Oh, well.
In which we find out that Freeza is actually evil because he was bullied in high school! :lol:

There's not much they could have done with him, honestly, he shouldn't have been brought back if it's gonna be such a huge waste like this.
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Post by kei17 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:35 pm

Here's my quick critique.


THIS IS NOT A MOVIE.

There's a Japanese term 起承転結 (introduction, development, turn, conclusion) which is often referred to when it comes to writing fiction, and Resurrection F completely lacks development in it. Foes appear, warriors gather, fight, then win. There is no development in the story. It's just punch, punch, kick, beam, funny conversations, punch, beam, funny reactions, beam, punch, Kamehameha! I can even hardly call this a story. It fails to be something enough calling a movie.

However, that doesn't mean it's not entertaining. It sure has a lot of charms. It's got a lot of hilarious and heartwarming moments (like Jaco's funny lines, Piccolo rocking Pan's cradle and Android 18 showing her love for Krillin) that definitely entertain fans, and the characters feel very on-character thanks to Toriyama. Also, a lot of the fight sequences were much better than my expectations. They're mainly focused on fist-to-fist struggles and it's not a boring beam show that GT was. Especially, Kamesen'nin was really badass this time. You ought to check it out yourself.

Things that bugged me were some really amateurish transitions of scenes, the persistent and unfunny gag moments by Beerus, and the choreography of battle sequences. Some scenes were suddenly inserted that I couldn't immediately understand what's happening. For example, Sorbet finds Pilaf and co in his space ship, and within the next two shots, they're already trapped in the ship and talking with Sorbet. It could have been a lot better by showing Pilaf and his gang first, then the space ship comes, trapped, and Sorbet gets introduced. Also, though Freeza mentions his training for a few months, the training itself is never shown and you don't understand how he could have become stronger. He just comes to the Earth shortly after his resurrection. As for gag moments, honestly, Beerus was unneeded in this movie. He just continues on talking about foods, which we've already seen enough in BoG, and contributes nothing to the story. Also, he acts high and mighty all the way that it spoils Freeza's terror. Whis alone would have been completely fine this time. The battle choreography was mostly nice, but it was often too "realistic" that it's not very DB-esque. It could have been more planet-scale. The overuse of slowmo doesn't help, too.

In conclusion, this is a compilation of battle sequences with Toriyama's elements inserted between them, which is enjoyable for DB fans and those who want to enjoy hardcore actions with an empty head. But to me, this does not feel like a movie at all. It feels like an overly rich OVA.
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Post by SSJGFrieza » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:38 pm

There's a Japanese term 起承転結 (introduction, development, turn, conclusion) which is often referred to when it comes to writing fiction, and Resurrection F completely lacks development in it. Foes appear, warriors gather, fight, then win. There is no development in the story. It's just punch, punch, kick, beam, funny conversations, punch, beam, funny reactions, beam, punch, Kamehameha! I can even hardly call this a story. It fails to be something enough calling a movie.
So basically what BoG haters wanted, nothing but mindless fighting.

I can see modern western Z fans loving this movie then.
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