Uubs potential?

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Uubs potential?

Post by Berserker1921 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:06 am

I am not counting gt or all that messy stuff. And I know that their are now millions of plot holes for the last arc in the manga. Thanks to battle of gods and revival of F. But when goku wanted to fight uub he sensed massive potential in him. Now let's assume this goku after all the new movies and possible new show (hey a man could dream). But do you see uub becoming more powerful then goku and vegeta now? After what that manga showed? I mean goku wouldn't want to challenge someone who wasn't strong, would he? I mean especially after fighting beerus, RoF frieza, and future foes. I beleive that uub will be stronger then goku.

You can argue that's imposible since the God boost goku received and zenakis boost that follow that. But I think uub being the reincarnation of buu has unlimited potential. We never got to see his full power. Even if goku was using half of one percent of his true power. That's amazing. Uub was keeping up with him and learning his skills as they were fighting. I can imagine goku teaching him everything from kaioken-to whis training and even beyond that.

And hypothetically of he is buu he has the ability to turn people into candy or absorb people. Which makes him possibly incredibly powerful. I honestly believe buu and yes even fat buu could have been the most powerful being in the z verse. If well fat buu wasn't lazy and enjoyed fighting. Or if super buu wanst too cocky or Kid buu being insane. I mean buu absorbed kaioshins. So that means he can absorb God ki. (Yes you can argue that their super weak). I think uub will be more powerful then goku and vegeta. Even if he doesn't have those abilities

Let me here you what you think.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:08 am

Oob can still wreck them. If Freeza can somehow do it in four months, he can do it in less since he's the reincarnation of Boo.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:08 am

I'm curious as to what these "millions of plotholes" are. Dragon Ball is vague enough where it would have to be pretty blatant to actually contradict anything already established.
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Post by Berserker1921 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:11 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:I'm curious as to what these "millions of plotholes" are. Dragon Ball is vague enough where it would have to be pretty blatant to actually contradict anything already established.

Well from battle gods beerus not knowing of buu. Or Freeza's suprise super training. Or even at the end of z why would goku want to fight a kid buu power after fighting gods?

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:11 am

Berserker1921 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I'm curious as to what these "millions of plotholes" are. Dragon Ball is vague enough where it would have to be pretty blatant to actually contradict anything already established.

Well from battle gods beerus not knowing of buu. Or Freeza's suprise super training. Or even at the end of z why would goku want to fight a kid buu power after fighting gods?
None of those are plotholes.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:14 am

Not necessarily a plot hole, but it is kinda confusing how Goku can be worried about not being able to beat Uub, when he has god powers. Unless Goku loses these powers in the new movie.

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Post by Berserker1921 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:19 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Berserker1921 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I'm curious as to what these "millions of plotholes" are. Dragon Ball is vague enough where it would have to be pretty blatant to actually contradict anything already established.

Well from battle gods beerus not knowing of buu. Or Freeza's suprise super training. Or even at the end of z why would goku want to fight a kid buu power after fighting gods?
None of those are plotholes.
I am sorry what I meant is inconsititencies

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Post by Berserker1921 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:20 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Not necessarily a plot hole, but it is kinda confusing how Goku can be worried about not being able to beat Uub, when he has god powers. Unless Goku loses these powers in the new movie.
Exactly haha

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:41 am

Oob can still become insanely strong. Nothing will prevent that happening.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:18 am

His potential is maximum.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Zephyr » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:42 am

Berserker1921 wrote:Well from battle gods beerus not knowing of buu. Or Freeza's suprise super training. Or even at the end of z why would goku want to fight a kid buu power after fighting gods?
Buu could look different than Beerus recognizes, Beerus could have not cared to mention anything, Beerus could have been asleep during crucial points in history, etc. Freeza's a mutant born with a BP of 120 million, we don't know anything really about how his physiology works, etc. If Freeza had that much potential, imagine how much Buu's reincarnation will have.

Pick any or all of the above, preferably without covering your ears and screaming "No! I don't want the new material to fit! Stop making it fit! Let me complain!" Not that this is what you're doing, or what you're going to do, and I apologize if that came off a tad blunt or confrontational, as it wasn't meant to be. But when these "problems" are brought up every three hours, and people provide quick and easy solutions for them, the logical consequence of what I see is that people shake their heads and adamantly refuse to accept any solution that requires a little bit of imagination and rethinking the status quo of the in-universe "scripture". It comes off as stubborn, unwilling to step outside of one's comfort zone, and embarrassingly dogmatic to a serialized manga series written by fucking Akira Toriyama.

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Post by ZazamPow » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:09 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:His potential is maximum.
He can only be challenged by Broly in Legendary Super Saiyan Devil form.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I swear, the Gohan fanboys won't be happy unless he just bends over and farts all of Freeza's men into the sun.
fadeddreams5 wrote: Honestly, this would only make me slightly satisfied. To make me happy, he'd also have to grab Freeza by the tail, drag him to the nearest toilet, and give him swirlies until he submits and calls him "daddy."

Gohan deserves it.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:13 am

ZazamPow wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:His potential is maximum.
He can only be challenged by Broly in Legendary Super Saiyan Devil form.
...or Farmer with Shotgun. :wink:
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Berserker1921 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:54 am

Or ....mr popo no wait not even whis can defeat that being of pure darkness lol

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:00 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
ZazamPow wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:His potential is maximum.
He can only be challenged by Broly in Legendary Super Saiyan Devil form.
...or Farmer with Shotgun. :wink:
Nah, the Farmer with Shotgun is way out of his league. :)

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Post by RancorSnp » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:39 pm

Uub's potential is AT LEAST as strong as Kid Buu, but truth be told, I would say it's unlimited, or at least so strong it seems Unlimited (capital letter intended).

Truth be told i am sure that Kid Buu, used only a minimal fraction of his potential, as he never ever even though about training (or anything resembling thinking to be honest), his sheer initial power, and indestructible body, allowing him to channel all Ki into attack instead o spiting it between defense and attack like other people do. - Yes I am completely sure he could have multiplied his Power level by training.

On people who are saying that Goku worrying about fight with Uub is a plot hole - I do not see any. Actually I saw plot hole BEFORE Goku absorbed SSJ God.
Just thin about it, Goku fighting against Uub in his initial form? Okey I know Uub has no battle experience, but how much weaker does it make him? 10 - 20 times? He still has the sheer power that Buu had, and tbh this is mainly what Buu used to begin with. Now let's look other way, how much does SSJ 3 multiply Gokus power? 75 times? 150 times?? No matter how to look at it, base Goku needed to get at least 10 - 20 times stronger in this gap by pure training. On his level this is NOT POSSIBLE, he would be super efficient if he managed to multiply his power by 1,5.

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Post by Doctor. » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:41 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:I'm curious as to what these "millions of plotholes" are. Dragon Ball is vague enough where it would have to be pretty blatant to actually contradict anything already established.
Cell's regen? That's a blatant one. Then again, it's only one. The start of the RRA arc too. Those are the only ones I'm remembering right now.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:02 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I'm curious as to what these "millions of plotholes" are. Dragon Ball is vague enough where it would have to be pretty blatant to actually contradict anything already established.
Cell's regen? That's a blatant one. Then again, it's only one. The start of the RRA arc too. Those are the only ones I'm remembering right now.
He was talking about from Battle of Gods and the new movie.
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Post by Doctor. » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:05 pm

If that's the case, then possibly Godly Ki, but it's really vague, so I don't think we should class it as one.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:10 pm

Doctor. wrote:If that's the case, then possibly Godly Ki, but it's really vague, so I don't think we should class it as one.
Well, the definition of plot hole is "is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that creates a paradox in the story that cannot be reconciled with any explanation." People love to throw the word around all the time, but in actuality, it is very hard for something to truly be a plot hole.

The Red Ribbon example you listed above is, because there's no way of working around it. We have strict, known rules for the Dragon Balls, and they were violated. Ergo, plot hole.

The inconsistencies in BoG and such are vague enough to be worked around. Ergo, they are inconsistencies, not plot holes.
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