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Post by GeeRod » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:03 pm

Still no screenshot of the new forms? :?
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Post by Beerus-sama » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:07 pm

Adding to the merchandise promotion pictures, theres this:
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:08 pm

GeeRod wrote:Still no screenshot of the new forms? :?
And there probably won't be until the 18th, unless they decide they actually want to promote it before hand. Or we could get lucky even if they are promoting it after, since one of the Jump magazines with said promotion could leak a little earlier.
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Post by Toonami97 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:09 pm

About Yamcha being able to hurt Frieza....Well think of it like this, They ignore Battle powers in Kinnikuman all the time

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Post by Herms » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:15 pm

Toonami97 wrote:About Yamcha being able to hurt Freeza....Well think of it like this, They ignore Battle powers in Kinnikuman all the time
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Post by Noah » Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:17 pm

About the Blue SSJG... Well, I'm like others in this thread had a suddenly hatred about this transformation, now I'm starting to think that is not so bad, you guys feel that too?

This looks pretty cool, though:

FortuneSSJ wrote:Even Freeza trains more than Gohan now. He's out.
About Piccolo. Have one or two soldiers give him trouble isn't bad. Its not like the red guy was a earthling.

Maybe they were getting tired too.
So, Gohan that still had his "Ultimate" 9 months ago now is supposed to be weaker than he was against Dabura, is that right?

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:26 pm

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:BoG & FnF don't have that important errors like other movies.

Sure they do. Beerus being able to achieve his power level with training while Goku not being to able to do is one.
One of them had 75 million years to train. The other didn't.
Planet Vegeta being destroyed before Beerus going into the slumber, while Beerus not knowing it
Does he need to know about everything that happens in the entire universe?
no one recognising Majin Buu, and even bringing him up, including Whis
Why would he bring him up? That version of Buu wasn't a threat.
Vegeta knowing Beerus, but never mentioning him in the whole series and never being afraid of possibility of him appearing and destroying the Earth
Vegeta only became afraid of him when he heard that he had defeated SSJ3 Goku in 2 hits. As gods' ki can't be sensed, before that Vegeta might have thought that he and the other Z-senshi were strong enough to fight him.
Vegeta getting a rage boost while never getting one before, because it was exclusive to Gohan (and Pan in GT)
Okay, this is a somewhat valid objection. But there was never any proof he couldn't get one before this.
Beerus saying that Ki which Goku and Vegeta use doesn't work on deities, and being wounded, and bleeding by Vegeta punch a half an hour later
Because a villain has never been arrogant or overstated their capabilities before, right? Besides, I got the impression he was talking about ki sensing, as he said that right after Vegeta suddenly noticed him at the party and was surprised he was there.
Shenron knowing about Beerus, while no one else does, including Kami, and later telling what SSJ God is, while even Whis doesn't know it
Well Shenron is a reality warper who can grant wishes, bring back the dead, and restore destroyed planets. It makes sense that he can also acquire knowledge other characters can't.
Beerus being able to deduce how strong Goku was and comparing him to Freeza, while never meeting Freeza in his final form, meaning not being able to deduce his real power
You don't know he never met Freeza in his final form.
Goku not wanting to use something that he doesn't earn in BoG, yet using Whis' time rewind ability in FnF, if you wish.
The difference was that he didn't do it just so he could win the fight, he did it to save the Earth and all the people on it.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:35 am

https://twitter.com/dragongarowLEE/stat ... 9469538304
Endless sushi; posted by the same artist who drew that Yamcha-defeats-Golden-Freeza the other day.
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Post by SuperSaiyanQ » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:38 am

What's going on guys?
First post so sorry if I'm taking this off topic but I was wondering , do you guys think Vegeta and Goku are equals in the movie ? I sieved through the pages and didn't really see a definitive answer
I read the spoilers and know about the transformations and Vegeta being 'nervous' in the presence of Golden Freeza but I kinda expected that after watching the trailer ,
What'd you think though ? Equals ? Goku still got the edge ?
Could Goku have stopped Frieza's earth exploding blast ? :think:

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SuperSaiyanQ wrote:What's going on guys?
First post so sorry if I'm taking this off topic but I was wondering , do you guys think Vegeta and Goku are equals in the movie ? I sieved through the pages and didn't really see a definitive answer
I read the spoilers and know about the transformations and Vegeta being 'nervous' in the presence of Golden Freeza but I kinda expected that after watching the trailer ,
What'd you think though ? Equals ? Goku still got the edge ?
Could Goku have stopped Freeza's earth exploding blast ? :think:
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Post by Beerus-sama » Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:35 am

Chuquita wrote:https://twitter.com/dragongarowLEE/stat ... 9469538304
Endless sushi; posted by the same artist who drew that Yamcha-defeats-Golden-Freeza the other day.
It looks like a contest of who can eat more Sushi :lol:

Looks like Goku cant have anymore (or getting at the limits :o )
Vegeta and Whis are taking it easy and Beerus is like "More Sushi! Must. Win. This. Match!" :lol:

That or maybe Goku is waiting for the other plate since Beerus is taking the one closer, and Beerus is trying to eat at the same speed that Goku is (since his plate tower is smaller than Goku's one)
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First post so sorry if I'm taking this off topic but I was wondering , do you guys think Vegeta and Goku are equals in the movie ? I sieved through the pages and didn't really see a definitive answer
I read the spoilers and know about the transformations and Vegeta being 'nervous' in the presence of Golden Freeza but I kinda expected that after watching the trailer ,
What'd you think though ? Equals ? Goku still got the edge ?
Could Goku have stopped Freeza's earth exploding blast ? :think:
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I think if they're not equals then Vegeta is a bit weaker but not that much.
I think the part where Vegeta is nervous about Freeza's Golden form is meant to be a joke... because then the summary says he goes to Goku's rescue and deflects all of Freeza's blasts thrown at them...
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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:40 am

Noah wrote:About the Blue SSJG... Well, I'm like others in this thread had a suddenly hatred about this transformation, now I'm starting to think that is not so bad, you guys feel that too? :
The blue hair just doesn't work for me. It seems so out of place from their usual colour scheme. Tacky even. Red would have been a smoother transition like what the fanart had, because as said, blue makes them look like they have a completely different power altogether and unSuper Saiyan related.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:50 am

Re: blue

Waiting to see screenshots, but if all it does is literally color-swap the hair and does nothing besides that, I'm just not interested. It's just another ssj2 to me then; doing nothing but adding one tiny thing. (Sparks in the case of ssj2, a color swap in the case of blue ssj).

Low power ssjg at least did stuff to Gokû's body, to his face and his build in addition to the color swap.
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SuperSaiyanQ wrote: What'd you think though ? Equals ? Goku still got the edge ?

Could Goku have stopped Freeza's earth exploding blast ? :think:
They're training with the same master and have the same forms so they're probably equal.

Yes and probably without any effort.
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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:02 am

If this was any other work of fiction and any other fandom, I might decry it as an April Fool's joke.
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Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:04 am

Chuquita wrote:Re: blue

Waiting to see screenshots, but if all it does is literally color-swap the hair and does nothing besides that, I'm just not interested. It's just another ssj2 to me then; doing nothing but adding one tiny thing. (Sparks in the case of ssj2, a color swap in the case of blue ssj).
The subtle change of SSJ2 added to the cool factor of SSJ without taking anything away, so it worked. It was merely an extension--an awesome one. The only exception being Kid Gohan, but this was before SSJ2 was even a thing.

BSSJG is terrible because it's not subtle at all. You're taking an iconic transformation, keeping it physically the same, but altering the best part about it into something completely ugly that stands out. It looks weaker than SSJ... and Toriyama knows that! grrrr...

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Post by Sora Saiyan » Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:24 am

After I heard about the BSSJ I knew it would be my favourite form. I actually love the idea of the SSJ form being blue.

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Post by mAcChaos » Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:38 am

Chuquita wrote:Re: blue

Waiting to see screenshots, but if all it does is literally color-swap the hair and does nothing besides that, I'm just not interested. It's just another ssj2 to me then; doing nothing but adding one tiny thing. (Sparks in the case of ssj2, a color swap in the case of blue ssj).

Low power ssjg at least did stuff to Gokû's body, to his face and his build in addition to the color swap.
SSJ2 had a few changes.

Eyes looked angrier, hair became spikier. Arcs of lightning, and the aura changed. So it was more than just that.
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Post by Piririn » Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:36 am

To be honest, the movie sounds rather... disappointing. There was so much build up about despair and the worst wish in history, etc... but Freeza's arrival is reminiscent of Avo and Cado's. And there's a lot of plot problems... I wish, if they were going to bring back Freeza, there'd been a little more effort into making the plot solid and consistent with the rest of the series.

My biggest issue with the movie is Goku and Vegeta's behavior at the end. The Earth is destroyed due to their immaturity, and yet neither of them really learns anything from it. They just go back to the same childish and petty behavior, like all those deaths were no big deal. When I heard (pre-summary) that Freeza destroys Earth, I thought Goku would be deeply affected by the consequences of his actions. But neither he nor Vegeta appear to care much about the fiery deaths they condemned a planetful of people to. I thought they'd regret what they'd done and realize, at the end, the need to take threats more seriously and work in tandem. But even though their own children died, they're still unwilling to fight together.

Their efforts to protect Earth in the last movie, their willingness to set aside pride for what's really important, seems to have been forgotten. Vegeta, especially, is out of character. He was willing to make a fool of himself to protect Earth in BoG, but now...? It's like his development and maturity took ten steps backwards.

I can accept a generic story. I'd hoped for much more, but it's amazing just having new material. OOC stuff, though, ruins it.

EDIT: It also doesn't even make sense for them both to act so immature and not take Freeza seriously. They know how utterly evil, sadistic, and dangerous Freeza is. Vegeta, especially, since he served Freeza until he was almost 30 (witnessing much of Freeza's sadism in person) and was tortured and killed by him. Goku watched him kill Vegeta and Kuririn, nearly kill Piccolo, etc... They both should've been intent on incinerating him as quickly as possible.

Plus, Freeza blew up Namek when he was losing against Goku during the Freeza saga. So it's not like him blowing up Earth is unexpected.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:07 am

Mystic Tien wrote:
singsing wrote:Of course Goku wouldn't catch up to Beerus's 75 million years of training... Goku kinda can't live for 75 million years.
Em... He was granted a body when he died, trained in the Other World and he was just fine. So him saying that he would never catch up to Beerus doesn't make a single bit of sense.
If I were u I wouldnt believe EVERYTHING Goku says, like AT Goku hates acting big and tough which is similar to him (lol) when he and Vegeta were fighting at ssj2 and majin form he said they are even but we all know he has a ssj3 and just doesnt want to use it for Vegeta's sake, he said he couldnt beat fat buu but later admitted he could have destroyed him, Goku contradicts himself a lot.

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