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Post by jamiljamtheman » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:36 am

If there is an old thread somewhere about these movies, I'd love to be linked to it. If not, this is just a thread if anyone's interested in talking about these movies; opinions, reviews, discussions, trivia, or anything really. :P

As a starter, I'd like to ask:
-Which of the movies do you recommend? I've seen the Broly trilogy and Fusion Reborn so far. I'll probably get around to them all eventually, but what should I prioritize?
-Were even the 45 minute ones shown theatrically? :o
-My ranking of the ones I've seen:
1. Bio Broly (What can I say, I love Mr. Satan and I think this features better Trunks-Goten-Broly fighting than the previous movie)
2. Fusion Reborn (Only because it's just so trippy. Plus S/O to Gogeta and his sparkles)
3. Broly: Legendary Super Saiyan (I like this because it actually has a plot, but I don't like how they made Vegeta so scared. It felt out of character)
4. Broly: Second Coming (It holds a special place for being the first DB thing I fully saw, but this is barely a movie and more a 45 minute fight scene. With that said, I think Trunks
peeing on Broly is just an incredible and hilarious moment. S/O to Trunks for that. Also family Kamehameha is epic)

Also, Battle of the Gods blows all these movies out of the water, which is so obvious to me that I chose to make this about the first 13 movies. I guess if you guys want you can tell me if any of the 1-13 films outdo it in any way, but I've asked enough. Happy Easter and happy foruming! :D

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Post by sintzu » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:59 am

jamiljamtheman wrote: -Which of the movies do you recommend?
5,6,7,8,9,12&13

Wrath of the dragon which is movie 13 is my favorite out of them cause of how well it fits into the main story and it having an actual story unlike the other 12 which are pretty generic when it comes to the story and characters.
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:27 am

jamiljamtheman wrote:If there is an old thread somewhere about these movies, I'd love to be linked to it. If not, this is just a thread if anyone's interested in talking about these movies; opinions, reviews, discussions, trivia, or anything really. :P

As a starter, I'd like to ask:
-Which of the movies do you recommend? I've seen the Broly trilogy and Fusion Reborn so far. I'll probably get around to them all eventually, but what should I prioritize?
-Were even the 45 minute ones shown theatrically? :o
-My ranking of the ones I've seen:
1. Bio Broly (What can I say, I love Mr. Satan and I think this features better Trunks-Goten-Broly fighting than the previous movie)
2. Fusion Reborn (Only because it's just so trippy. Plus S/O to Gogeta and his sparkles)
3. Broly: Legendary Super Saiyan (I like this because it actually has a plot, but I don't like how they made Vegeta so scared. It felt out of character)
4. Broly: Second Coming (It holds a special place for being the first DB thing I fully saw, but this is barely a movie and more a 45 minute fight scene. With that said, I think Trunks
peeing on Broly is just an incredible and hilarious moment. S/O to Trunks for that. Also family Kamehameha is epic)

Also, Battle of the Gods blows all these movies out of the water, which is so obvious to me that I chose to make this about the first 13 movies. I guess if you guys want you can tell me if any of the 1-13 films outdo it in any way, but I've asked enough. Happy Easter and happy foruming! :D
Yeah, there's been a decent number of threads dedicated to these movies over the years. They tend to pop up every so often, so if you look back through this section, you're bound to stumble upon a few of them. I may or may not be present in a sizeable chunk of them. :P

All of the movies were indeed shown theatrically, but they were screened alongside other Toei films in what was known as the 'Toei Anime Fair'. Check out Kanzenshuu's 'Movie Guide' for more information: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/movie/

In terms of recommendations, I'd say the first three DBZ movies, along with DBZ Movie 6 (and 5, I guess) and DBZ Movie 13. DBZ Movies 1, 2 and 3 tend to be quite highly regarded within the fandom. A lot of that is down to nostalgia, but they all have their strengths that make them deserving of the praise they receive. Each one boasts a very old school-sort of atmosphere, a kick-ass soundtrack, fantastic animation and well-choreographed fight scenes. DBZ Movie 6 is probably a bit of a weird one to recommend; I know a lot of people aren't too big on it, but there's a lot in there that makes it worth seeing. The animation is inconsistent throughout this one, but at its peak there are some very interesting and cool set pieces. It's also Vegeta's first appearance in a film, so there's some fun exchanges between him and Goku. The fight scenes also range from awesome to slightly crazy, there's a nice sprinkling of comedy throughout, Yajirobe makes an appearance, Metal Coola is a fascinating villain and there's also that scene. Yes, the soundtrack is also great in this one as well. But I guess if you're gonna watch that one, you gotta watch DBZ Movie 5 first. I hold this one in high regard because of my nostalgia for it, but to anyone else, I'm sure it just looks like the typical DBZ movie formula being executed to a tee. DBZ Movie 13 is probably the most story-heavy of the lot; it's one of the few that introduces an original protagonist, we get a lot of great character moments, there's a decent amount of back-story and the animation and atmosphere is incredible- it feels like a real movie. The ending isn't to everyone's liking, but it's worth watching due to how unique it is. Only issue is, if you're gonna watch the Japanese version, the sound quality on the Double Feature is absolutely rubbish. You're fine if you're watching it on any other English release, though.

I know this is specifically a DBZ Movie thread, but I'd also suggest checking out the 10th Anniversary Movie as well. Not only does have some of the nicest animation the franchise has ever seen, but it boasts the longest run-time of the original 17 and it works well as a stand-alone feature that you can show to anyone without having to explain anything.

Yeah, I wouldn't say any of these outdo Battle of Gods, but that's just me. Opinions, y'know. :wink:

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Post by Kakacarrottop » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:54 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:DBZ Movie 6 is probably a bit of a weird one to recommend; I know a lot of people aren't too big on it, but there's a lot in there that makes it worth seeing.
The Big Green productions dub of the film alone makes it worth watching
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:31 am

Typically, I like the ones that try to shy away from the dreaded DBZ Movie Formula. You know what I'm talking about: we spend five seconds seeing the characters do normal things, and then fighting starts! Kuririn gets beaten up and has some variation on, "Why does this always happen to me?!" Gohan gets in over his head, only for Piccolo to majestically show up and take out some of the henchmen but eventually gets beaten too. Goku gets in the fray and gets his ass (and shirt) handed to him until he manages to pull out power he didn't know he had (usually a Genki Dama) to win the day. Everyone gets together and laughs! The end. Ugh. So with that said, here are a few I actually like.

Movie 1: Definitely has the seeds of the formula, but it was definitely original at the time (aside from being a ripoff of the Raditz story). But it looks fantastic with its extremely warm color palette and eerie-looking castle. God gets to do stuff. The music is great. The martial arts are great. The Nyoibo is great. The ending is rather creative, or at least it was before the Garlic Jr. arc happened. Hell, the Garlic Jr. arc makes it more difficult for me to like this movie, so I have to try really hard not to think about it when I watch it.

Movie 2: Formula is starting to codify here, but it still hasn't become terribly repetitive yet. But let me be frank: best music ever. The eerie Dr. Uiro theme, the electric guitar version of Piccolo's theme. Heaven. And it has a very fun and silly insert song. The plot about finding a body for the villain to inhabit is pretty cool and interesting, especially in that it gets the Muten Roshi involved.

Movie 3: Finally, one of the few movies that breaks formula. I certainly understand why FUNimation split it up and aired it as episodes of the series because it honestly feels more like the series than any other movie. All of the characters are there, and there's good camaraderie between them. The stories actually feel more substantial than just an excuse to get into the action. The stuff with the forest, Gohan's relationshp with Hire Dragon, and Yamucha getting a new car all elevate this movie to something memorable. The palette is a little bland (understandable given the story), and there are a few logical hiccups (why does Gohan not revert when the fake moon is destroyed?), it's still a very good movie.

Movie 5: Knee-deep into the formula, but this one actually does it pretty well. It looks very good with bright and varied colors. The henchmen are memorable (including a certain surprise fakeout at the end), and the story actually tries with a bit of dramatic irony with Coola's defeat, tying in the Bardock special into the plot. Granted, it goes a bit too far in making Goku into this holy savior, like when he becomes Super Saiyan and brings a bird back to life while organ music is playing! But overall pretty good.

Movie 9: Another great formula breaker. Tournaments are always fun, but this one is even different than any tournament we've seen in the series. All the characters are once again there, although Yamucha and Tenshinhan get a pretty raw deal... at least Tenshinhan gets a good fight with Trunks. Great movie debut of Mr. Satan. Really imaginative locations. Great movie for Gohan to take the lead in. Also, very awesome ending song!

Movie 10: Yeah, yeah, a dark horse candidate, but I don't care what anyone says, this is my favorite of the three Broli movies. Yes, it does turn Broli into the guy who just yells "Kakarotto" over and over again, but I don't care about that to begin with. The fighting is the least interesting parts of any of these movies. What I like is all the rest of the stuff. It's so cool seeing Videl, Goten, and Trunks carry a movie and get into antics. I like the crazy, backwards town and their shady medicine man. It's not the best movie in the series, but it's pretty fun.

Movie 13: As others have said, this one just tries more. It's much more ambitious than most of the other movies. It's probably the most ambitious one since movie 3. And it's pretty good. Here, the story really does manage to outshine the action on purpose. Trunks longs for a big brother type figure. Tapion is reluctant and duty bound. There's a nice backstory to the villains. The story actually starts by the heroes being tricked... okay, well, that happens all the damn time in the series, but it's pretty rare for the movies. Plus, I love getting to see more Great Saiyaman.

Movie 7 sucks. Just felt I needed to say that.
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Post by kei17 » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:56 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:Movie 3: Finally, one of the few movies that breaks formula. I certainly understand why FUNimation split it up and aired it as episodes of the series because it honestly feels more like the series than any other movie. All of the characters are there, and there's good camaraderie between them. The stories actually feel more substantial than just an excuse to get into the action. The stuff with the forest, Gohan's relationshp with Hire Dragon, and Yamucha getting a new car all elevate this movie to something memorable. The palette is a little bland (understandable given the story), and there are a few logical hiccups (why does Gohan not revert when the fake moon is destroyed?), it's still a very good movie.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:09 pm

I"m aware. Still doesn't make any sense. It simulates the moon. As Vegeta explains, it reflects those brutz waves the same way the moon does. When the moon is destroyed, the transformation ends instantly. Why would it work any differently? And if it did, if those effects still hang around, why wouldn't Tullece still transform, which is the whole reason he destroys it in the first place?
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:07 pm

I recommend watching the rest in the following order:
1. Wrath of the Dragon
2. Bojack Unbound
3. Dead Zone
4. World's Strongest
5. Cooler's Revenge
6. Return of Cooler
7. Lord Slug
8. Tree of Might
9. Super 13

And if you haven't watched the Bardock special or History of Trunks, watch those before any of the movies.

Top 4 listed here are really enjoyable. The rest are meh or rehased plots. Return of Cooler is my least favorite, but might as well watch it after the first Cooler one.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:15 pm

jamiljamtheman wrote:If there is an old thread somewhere about these movies, I'd love to be linked to it. If not, this is just a thread if anyone's interested in talking about these movies; opinions, reviews, discussions, trivia, or anything really. :P

As a starter, I'd like to ask:
-Which of the movies do you recommend? I've seen the Broly trilogy and Fusion Reborn so far. I'll probably get around to them all eventually, but what should I prioritize?
-Were even the 45 minute ones shown theatrically? :o
-My ranking of the ones I've seen:
1. Bio Broly (What can I say, I love Mr. Satan and I think this features better Trunks-Goten-Broly fighting than the previous movie)
2. Fusion Reborn (Only because it's just so trippy. Plus S/O to Gogeta and his sparkles)
3. Broly: Legendary Super Saiyan (I like this because it actually has a plot, but I don't like how they made Vegeta so scared. It felt out of character)
4. Broly: Second Coming (It holds a special place for being the first DB thing I fully saw, but this is barely a movie and more a 45 minute fight scene. With that said, I think Trunks
peeing on Broly is just an incredible and hilarious moment. S/O to Trunks for that. Also family Kamehameha is epic)

Also, Battle of the Gods blows all these movies out of the water, which is so obvious to me that I chose to make this about the first 13 movies. I guess if you guys want you can tell me if any of the 1-13 films outdo it in any way, but I've asked enough. Happy Easter and happy foruming! :D
So wait, you dislike movie 8 because Vegeta was scared, but you love BoG even though Vegeta was scared in that too?
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Post by jamiljamtheman » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:05 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
jamiljamtheman wrote:If there is an old thread somewhere about these movies, I'd love to be linked to it. If not, this is just a thread if anyone's interested in talking about these movies; opinions, reviews, discussions, trivia, or anything really. :P

As a starter, I'd like to ask:
-Which of the movies do you recommend? I've seen the Broly trilogy and Fusion Reborn so far. I'll probably get around to them all eventually, but what should I prioritize?
-Were even the 45 minute ones shown theatrically? :o
-My ranking of the ones I've seen:
1. Bio Broly (What can I say, I love Mr. Satan and I think this features better Trunks-Goten-Broly fighting than the previous movie)
2. Fusion Reborn (Only because it's just so trippy. Plus S/O to Gogeta and his sparkles)
3. Broly: Legendary Super Saiyan (I like this because it actually has a plot, but I don't like how they made Vegeta so scared. It felt out of character)
4. Broly: Second Coming (It holds a special place for being the first DB thing I fully saw, but this is barely a movie and more a 45 minute fight scene. With that said, I think Trunks
peeing on Broly is just an incredible and hilarious moment. S/O to Trunks for that. Also family Kamehameha is epic)

Also, Battle of the Gods blows all these movies out of the water, which is so obvious to me that I chose to make this about the first 13 movies. I guess if you guys want you can tell me if any of the 1-13 films outdo it in any way, but I've asked enough. Happy Easter and happy foruming! :D
So wait, you dislike movie 8 because Vegeta was scared, but you love BoG even though Vegeta was scared in that too?
That's a good point, but I should clarify. Against Broly, vegeta spends basically the entire movie cowering in fear and literally giving up and telling the others its no use. In Battle of the Gods, yes he was scared shitless of Beerus, but he actually musters the courage to fight and be very brave and Vegeta like before getting knocked aside. Particularly in the "you hit my bulma" moment, though I think I remember him fighting another time as well. Also, I guess I ranked it a little low but I do like that movie. :) I need to give it a rewatch, but I enjoy the concept of the Legendary Super Saiyan, and like the story for the most part. Plus buff master roshi. XD

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Post by Mystic Tien » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:08 pm

jamiljamtheman wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:
jamiljamtheman wrote:If there is an old thread somewhere about these movies, I'd love to be linked to it. If not, this is just a thread if anyone's interested in talking about these movies; opinions, reviews, discussions, trivia, or anything really. :P

As a starter, I'd like to ask:
-Which of the movies do you recommend? I've seen the Broly trilogy and Fusion Reborn so far. I'll probably get around to them all eventually, but what should I prioritize?
-Were even the 45 minute ones shown theatrically? :o
-My ranking of the ones I've seen:
1. Bio Broly (What can I say, I love Mr. Satan and I think this features better Trunks-Goten-Broly fighting than the previous movie)
2. Fusion Reborn (Only because it's just so trippy. Plus S/O to Gogeta and his sparkles)
3. Broly: Legendary Super Saiyan (I like this because it actually has a plot, but I don't like how they made Vegeta so scared. It felt out of character)
4. Broly: Second Coming (It holds a special place for being the first DB thing I fully saw, but this is barely a movie and more a 45 minute fight scene. With that said, I think Trunks
peeing on Broly is just an incredible and hilarious moment. S/O to Trunks for that. Also family Kamehameha is epic)

Also, Battle of the Gods blows all these movies out of the water, which is so obvious to me that I chose to make this about the first 13 movies. I guess if you guys want you can tell me if any of the 1-13 films outdo it in any way, but I've asked enough. Happy Easter and happy foruming! :D
So wait, you dislike movie 8 because Vegeta was scared, but you love BoG even though Vegeta was scared in that too?
That's a good point, but I should clarify. Against Broly, vegeta spends basically the entire movie cowering in fear and literally giving up and telling the others its no use. In Battle of the Gods, yes he was scared shitless of Beerus, but he actually musters the courage to fight and be very brave and Vegeta like before getting knocked aside.
And then gives up and tells the others that its no use.
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Post by jamiljamtheman » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:20 pm

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And then gives up and tells the others that its no use.
Well, I think an ideal portrayal of him is like how Omega Shenron was so stupid overpowered, yet Vegeta still fought til the end and refused to give up. It was similar in the Frieza saga as well and obviously against Goku before that (I haven't watched Cell or Buu yet) But, I'm no writer x) and I understand your point, but it felt more prominent against Broly because i don't recall him even trying at all. At least he tries to fight Beerus. Maybe I'm just disgruntled because I was hoping for some awesome Vegeta combat in movie 8 , and he ended up barely fighting at all. X)

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:02 pm

I'd personally recommend DBZ movie 2, 8, 9, 12 and 13. They are the only movies prior to BOG that are worth a damn, in my opinion.
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Post by Mystic Tien » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:08 pm

jamiljamtheman wrote:
Mystic Tenshinhan wrote:
And then gives up and tells the others that its no use.
Well, I think an ideal portrayal of him is like how Omega Shenron was so stupid overpowered, yet Vegeta still fought til the end and refused to give up. It was similar in the Freeza saga as well and obviously against Goku before that (I haven't watched Cell or Buu yet) But, I'm no writer x) and I understand your point, but it felt more prominent against Broly because i don't recall him even trying at all. At least he tries to fight Beerus. Maybe I'm just disgruntled because I was hoping for some awesome Vegeta combat in movie 8 , and he ended up barely fighting at all. X)
Absolutely agree, one of the best moments with Vegeta. I just don't like when he gives up. Don't like at all.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Post by Kid Buu » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:12 pm

I recommend Lord Slug. I really liked the city look and the creative teamwork in the film.
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Post by Cold Skin » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:34 pm

Kakacarrottop wrote:
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:DBZ Movie 6 is probably a bit of a weird one to recommend; I know a lot of people aren't too big on it, but there's a lot in there that makes it worth seeing.
The Big Green productions dub of the film alone makes it worth watching
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I just watched a bunch of videos of that Big Green dub.

It's astonishing how EVERY SINGLE LINE is a direct translation from the old French dub, and a lot of voices were also chosen to mimic the old French dub!
Basically, the adapters didn't even check out the original Japanese version (maybe they couldn't), it's exactly as if the old French dub had been the original version itself that had to be translated and dubbed!
I guess it gives you an exact vision of what us French fans went through back then in the 90s, before Kai gave us a whole new dub (which has since been used for Battle of Gods and will be used for any upcoming production as well).

France is not responsible for the performances in this dub, France is partly responsible for the chosen voices in this dub, and France is directly responsible for every single line you hear!
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Post by Tyro » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:42 pm

I recommend all of the movies. Some are fan favorites, like movie #12, and some are pretty terrible, like movie #11. But even in the worst of movies (again, movie #11), you'll find at least one aspect of the new "what-if" story that you'll enjoy, and since we Dragon Ball fans aren't exactly drowning in new content these days, you might as well watch them all.

My favorites are: #1, #2, #12, and #13. My "meh" are: #3, #4, #5, #8, and #9. My dislikes are: #6, #7, #10 and #11.

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Post by shinmaru » Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:46 pm

I recommend watching them all. Every DBZ movie is special, Just Start with first Z movie. But for me Bojack movie is very special. It marks the end of an era. The movie takes place in peacetime, after Cells defeat.
And it is the last time for some characters to come in action like Trunks, Teen Gohan, and Yamcha

1# love the character pirate look designs.
2#The mini tournament.
3#Bejita Scene in a hotel room.
4#Trunks VS Tenshinshan.
5#Yamcha and Tenshinhan screen time.
6#Outfits of Trunks and Gohan
7#last time future Trunks and TGohan
8# Good Music
And it fits with the manga
Overall a good Movie. But it's the best to watch it after Cell dies, of course

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Post by theoriginalbilis » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:55 pm

They're all worth watching in some capacity, I feel. There's some creative character designs and art direction choices for each film, that I feel makes each film worth checking out visually. Even more so in the audio department. Some of the best music from the Japanese composer, Kikuchi, can be heard in the movies.
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Post by Duo » Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:08 pm

I like the animation and pacing in the movies better than the series, so I generally watch them more often than I do actual episodes. Movie 5 is probably my favorite of the oldies, just for doing formula so well in presentation and execution. Much love.

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