What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:38 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:I don't think there is any DBZ media that is lost for good. When I think of something is lost then I think of a movie like London After Midnight (1927) which is gone for good on the face of the Earth. I think some of the old TV ads for Dragon Ball back in 1986 are hard to fine but not lost.
Or some of the old Doctor Who serials.
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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by shinmaru » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:27 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:Besides the Toriyama sketches mentioned and possible scripts (e.g. original BoG script) or art work, I don't think there's anything "lost" from the actual anime or manga. As in, an actual episode or special.

That said, I'm sure there may be old Japanese commercials or DBZ related shows from the time the series was at its prime that may fit the bill. I'm actually interested in seeing that. >.>
I still can get my hands on original Japanese episode Scripts.
These are the ones I can get

Dragon Ball Z #117
Dragon Ball Z #142
Dragon Ball Z #178
Dragon Ball Z #217
Dragon Ball Z #221
Dragon Ball Z #223
Dragon Ball Z #225
Dragon Ball Z #225
Dragon Ball Z #227
Dragon Ball Z #233
Dragon Ball Z #238
Dragon Ball Z #244
Dragon Ball Z #252
Dragon Ball Z #255
Dragon Ball Z #256
Dragon Ball Z #257
Dragon Ball Z #258
Dragon Ball Z #259
Dragon Ball Z #260
Dragon Ball Z #260
Dragon Ball Z #261
Dragon Ball Z #261
Dragon Ball Z #262
Dragon Ball Z #263
Dragon Ball Z #265
Dragon Ball Z #266
Dragon Ball Z #267
Dragon Ball Z #269
Dragon Ball Z #270
Dragon Ball Z #270
Dragon Ball Z #271
Dragon Ball Z #272
Dragon Ball Z #275
Dragon Ball Z #282
Dragon Ball Z #288
Dragon Ball Z #61
Dragon Ball Z #62
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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by Gonstead » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:49 am

Wouldn't the original master audio tapes for Dragon Ball and Z count? We at least know that we once thought GT was lost as well but re-aired a few years ago with said audio intact.

As for them getting a release, that's a different story.
Kakacarrottop wrote: Hard to find
* Toonami versions of FUNi's early in-house dub.
Aren't the edited VHS tapes pretty much what aired on Toonami? Unless I'm unaware that Toonami made additional edits on top of said edited footage.
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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by dbgtFO » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:26 am

shinmaru wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Besides the Toriyama sketches mentioned and possible scripts (e.g. original BoG script) or art work, I don't think there's anything "lost" from the actual anime or manga. As in, an actual episode or special.

That said, I'm sure there may be old Japanese commercials or DBZ related shows from the time the series was at its prime that may fit the bill. I'm actually interested in seeing that. >.>
I still can get my hands on original Japanese episode Scripts.
How can you get your hands on those?

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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by macho_man » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:19 am

Hard to obtain:
The entire footage of 'Plan To Eradicate The Saiyajins', part 1 and 2: there are too many videoclips you can unlock just making some specific actions in the Playdia game... but it's too difficult to obtain all of them. Also, there isn't yet a Playdia emulator that could extract movie files from the ISO of these games, which are crypted.
Almost lost/Maybe gone forever:
DBZ Year-End Special: 'Looking Back at it All: The Dragon Ball Z Year-End Show!', there aren't complete rips from the original, only-one-time-aired tv broadcast, maybe pekinduck did it? He could be the only one in the entire world.

... and, remaining stick with lost footage, we can consider also the ones wich have been played at the 'V-JUMP FESTIVAL VIDEO 1994': Go!Go!Ackman, Chokin Senshi CASHMAN, Jiku Sentai Numamonjar, and so on.

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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by shinmaru » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:32 am

macho_man wrote:Hard to obtain:
The entire footage of 'Plan To Eradicate The Saiyajins', part 1 and 2: there are too many videoclips you can unlock just making some specific actions in the Playdia game... but it's too difficult to obtain all of them. Also, there isn't yet a Playdia emulator that could extract movie files from the ISO of these games, which are crypted.
Almost lost/Maybe gone forever:
DBZ Year-End Special: 'Looking Back at it All: The Dragon Ball Z Year-End Show!', there aren't complete rips from the original, only-one-time-aired tv broadcast, maybe pekinduck did it? He could be the only one in the entire world...
That's the complete version there is nothing more to see and the Playdia ova earth, you can watch that on my youtube channel
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shinmaru wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Besides the Toriyama sketches mentioned and possible scripts (e.g. original BoG script) or art work, I don't think there's anything "lost" from the actual anime or manga. As in, an actual episode or special.

That said, I'm sure there may be old Japanese commercials or DBZ related shows from the time the series was at its prime that may fit the bill. I'm actually interested in seeing that. >.>
I still can get my hands on original Japanese episode Scripts.
How can you get your hands on those?
I have a contact that used to work for Toei

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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by Attitudefan » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:40 am

Does he know, or have any info, on if the master tapes are truly gone, Shinmaru?
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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by macho_man » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:51 am

Hard to obtain:
The entire footage of 'Plan To Eradicate The Saiyajins', part 1 and 2: there are too many videoclips you can unlock just making some specific actions in the Playdia game... but it's too difficult to obtain all of them. Also, there isn't yet a Playdia emulator that could extract movie files from the ISO of these games, which are crypted.
There are clips that aren't in the usual rips and in the vhs release, just like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... z_Otm6d0-E
Or alternate endings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIdxvVd ... detailpage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM1F4dVLYEA
Just take a look at this footage, there are many many clips excluded from the tape release:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpbqroS ... detailpage
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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by shinmaru » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:55 am

Attitudefan wrote:Does he know, or have any info, on if the master tapes are truly gone, Shinmaru?
I never thought to ask him before about the audio, but I'll ask if he knows something about it.

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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by Attitudefan » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:55 am

shinmaru wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:Does he know, or have any info, on if the master tapes are truly gone, Shinmaru?
I never thought to ask him before about the audio, but I'll ask if he knows something about it.
Thanks dude! :thumbup:
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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by shinmaru » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:00 am

macho_man wrote:
Hard to obtain:
The entire footage of 'Plan To Eradicate The Saiyajins', part 1 and 2: there are too many videoclips you can unlock just making some specific actions in the Playdia game... but it's too difficult to obtain all of them. Also, there isn't yet a Playdia emulator that could extract movie files from the ISO of these games, which are crypted.
There are clips that aren't in the usual rips and in the vhs release, just like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... z_Otm6d0-E
Or alternate endings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIdxvVd ... detailpage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM1F4dVLYEA
Just take a look at this footage, there are many many clips excluded from the tape release:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpbqroS ... detailpage
Like I said before I got the entire Playdia footage.
And I have uploaded the Earth version with Subtitle on my YouTube channel.

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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by macho_man » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:28 am

shinmaru wrote:
macho_man wrote:
Hard to obtain:
The entire footage of 'Plan To Eradicate The Saiyajins', part 1 and 2: there are too many videoclips you can unlock just making some specific actions in the Playdia game... but it's too difficult to obtain all of them. Also, there isn't yet a Playdia emulator that could extract movie files from the ISO of these games, which are crypted.
There are clips that aren't in the usual rips and in the vhs release, just like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... z_Otm6d0-E
Or alternate endings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIdxvVd ... detailpage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM1F4dVLYEA
Just take a look at this footage, there are many many clips excluded from the tape release:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpbqroS ... detailpage
Like I said before I got the entire Playdia footage.
And I have uploaded the Earth version with Subtitle on my YouTube channel.
Good, really really good! Are you going to add part 2 as well, and with alternate ending/clips?

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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by Dayspring » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:23 pm

dougo13 wrote:Can you be more specific as to what issue it might have been in? I pulled out a bunch of the Young Jump manga volumes I have remaining in my collection (I had hundreds at one time but had to discard them as they had gotten water damaged from poor storage). I have Christmas issues from late 1989/1990 but I don't see anything other than things like Dragonquest and the odd single panel colour section as part of a calendar for instance. I have other issues I saved though, so perhaps we'll get lucky and it's in there.
I have no idea where my copy of Daizenshuu 7 is, so I can't just check it to see. However, the dragonball.wikia claims it's at the back of Weekly Shonen Jump 1991 #3/4.
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Dayspring wrote:Hard to find:
-The one-page manga Toriyama drew as a Christmas special (all the manga-ka did so at the end of a special issue of Jump) that contains Lunch's last appearance in the manga (occurs during the Namek Saga). Aside from a small reprint in Daizenshuu 7, it doesn't exist anywhere anymore.
I wouldn't say that image is hard to find anymore. Along with being reprinted in Daizenshuu #7, it was included in the Chogashuu as well.
Forgot about the Chogashuu, but it's worth noting that it was not released outside of Japan (to my knowledge, anyway) and that neither had as much distribution as the tankoubon or kanzenban.
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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by dougo13 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:17 pm

Thanks. Found the special issues for 1990. Those were big, at 400 - 500 pages long. Still looking...

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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by Tyro » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:43 pm

Dayspring wrote:I have no idea where my copy of Daizenshuu 7 is, so I can't just check it to see. However, the dragonball.wikia claims it's at the back of Weekly Shonen Jump 1991 #3/4.
Yeah, that's the one.
Dayspring wrote:Forgot about the Chogashuu, but it's worth noting that it was not released outside of Japan (to my knowledge, anyway) and that neither had as much distribution as the tankoubon or kanzenban.
It might be hard to get your hands on the original WSJ that has the comic, but the comic itself is all over the internet. Hell, I have a HQ scan of it on my computer right now.

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Re: What counts as "lost" content in the franchise?

Post by Dayspring » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:24 pm

Tyro wrote:
Dayspring wrote:I have no idea where my copy of Daizenshuu 7 is, so I can't just check it to see. However, the dragonball.wikia claims it's at the back of Weekly Shonen Jump 1991 #3/4.
Yeah, that's the one.
Dayspring wrote:Forgot about the Chogashuu, but it's worth noting that it was not released outside of Japan (to my knowledge, anyway) and that neither had as much distribution as the tankoubon or kanzenban.
It might be hard to get your hands on the original WSJ that has the comic, but the comic itself is all over the internet. Hell, I have a HQ scan of it on my computer right now.
I guess I didn't realize we were including bootlegs?
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