Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Marlowe89]

Assuming "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" is what sticks/remains official, I don't see the problem with using that specific description to refer to the "new" form. A little long winded, sure, but it's not atrocious. I'd prefer to use that terminology over a fan-created name any day of the week. "Blueper Saiyan", while humorous, doesn't have a good ring to it, and "Super Cyan" has already been retired.

Agreed. As long winded and ridiculous as it sounds, it's infinitely more accurate than all of these fan terms like "Super Super Saiyan God" or "Super Saiyan God 2". I don't think many people understand that it isn't meant to be an evolution of the magenta form, at least not in a literal sense.

[ShadowWolf87]

"cash grab" fits perfectly, because where the heck does the "blue" come from? So it's just marketing...

Yeah the blue was totally random, I would have thought they would have used the red from SSG, but I am glad they didn't I really like this form.

The Blue comes from showing a complete spectrum change from Red. Similar to Black to a light golden yellow.

It also makes sense considering the initial aura Goku had when he first took the form was blue, even has the blue "petal" effect.

[batistabus]

The naming now makes sense when I read translated text :

" The Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is achieved when a Saiyan (Goku/Vegeta) gains the power of SSJG and transform in to a SSJ ".

This makes a bit of sense to me now.

But this is not really accurate, or at the very least it is a bit misleading.

In Battle of Gods, we see Goku transform into a yellow Super Saiyan after the Super Saiyan God transformation wears off. He is still able to draw power from the Godly ki he had access to earlier, and we know this because he is able to keep up with Beerus and he has that strange burst/absorb moment. However, he has clearly not yet mastered this power.

I think it is more accurate to say that this is a synchronization of the Godly ki and Super Saiyan. He channels that ki into the normal Super Saiyan form to make it comparably strong (he could be more powerful, he could be less powerful) to how powerful he'd be as a Super Saiyan God. Godly ki-infused Super Saiyan.

Not a huge difference, but it's important to recognize that becoming a Super Saiyan God while also having the ability to become a Super Saiyan does not automatically grant you this ability. It is something that needs to be mastered through training.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

I think it is more accurate to say that this is a synchronization of the Godly ki and Super Saiyan. He channels that ki into the normal Super Saiyan form to make it comparably strong (he could be more powerful, he could be less powerful) to how powerful he'd be as a Super Saiyan God. Godly ki-infused Super Saiyan. Not a huge difference, but it's important to recognize that becoming a Super Saiyan God while also having the ability to become a Super Saiyan does not automatically grant you this ability. It is something that needs to be mastered through training.

Its still too convoluted to say though and painfully redundant. Most professional writing tips say to never give characters names that are tounge twisters.
I would have just gone with "Ascended Saiyan God" or "Super Saiyan (God Ki)" If it is just SSJ with God boost because its not SSJ ontop post SSJG, if its SSJG + SSJ.

[MutenRoshii619]

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Its official...What do you guys think?? I'm curious to know if he can still go beyond the original super saiyan . The blue tent is not a bad touch!

[Lord Beerus]

So far the different names I have seen around the internet:
True Super Saiyan God
Super Saiyan God 2
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan
Mastered Super Saiyan
Blue Super Saiyan
Blueper Saiyan
(Super)Saiyan beyond God
Super Cyan
Super Saiyan cash grab.

I'm still standing by "Blueper Saiyan".

[Metalwario64]

Why did you think it was a good idea to post a spoiler in a thread title, rather than keep it in the relevant movie thread?

[fadeddreams5]

We've sort of known about this for a long while now. =P

Personally, I think it looks really, really lame, and makes him look weaker, which is something even Toriyama seems to acknowledge. Even SSJG was better. Looking at this image, Goku doesn't even seem like he "powered-up." Just looks like he joined a Japanese band, spiked up his hair, and dyed it blue.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

And "Full-Power Super Saiyan" is in a Daizenshuu, but I may be wrong, though.

It's not a proper form name though, it's just a description used only for Goku to distinguish between his first transformation and his RoSaT training. Gohan has the same form but is only labeled as Super Saiyan in the same character section of the book.

It's actually Super Saiyan Full Power and it's only used to label Goku once he has powered up to full power against Cell.
Their stressless Super Saiyan forms don't have names other than Grade 4 from that Trunks comic.

Daizenshuu 10 labels both Goku's & Gohan's SS forms after RoSaT as Super Saiyan Full Power.

[Metalwario64]

We've sort of known about this for a long while now. =P

Maybe you and others, but plenty of people are trying to avoid news about the new movie.

I'm no mod, and won't pretend to be, and I certainly don't mind discussion about it, (though, outside of the main thread, I would prefer the use of spoiler tags), but throwing stuff out in thread titles (especially when it can easily be discussed in the thread for the movie) seems inconsiderate to me.

[fadeddreams5]

We've sort of known about this for a long while now. =P

Maybe you and others, but plenty of people are trying to avoid news about the new movie.

I'm no mod, and won't pretend to be, and I certainly don't mind discussion about it, (though, outside of the main thread, I would prefer the use of spoiler tags), but throwing stuff out in thread titles (especially when it can easily be discussed in the thread for the movie) seems inconsiderate to me.

That post was directed at the creator of the topic. I agree with you.

[Lord Beerus]

Maybe you and others, but plenty of people are trying to avoid news about the new movie.

I'm no mod, and won't pretend to be, and I certainly don't mind discussion about it, even in other threads (though, I would prefer the use of spoiler tags), but throwing stuff out in thread titles (especially when it can easily be discussed in the thread for the movie) seems inconsiderate to me.

I agree with this. Thread likes this are so not cool and the reason why I tell people to be weary of going on Kanzenshuu whenever a new Dragon Ball movie is announced. Because threads like this are created and can kill your anticipation for the movie.

[Marco Polo]

Daizenshuu labels them because it easier to refer to them if they have specific names, but they don't actually have names in-universe. It's similar to how Future Trunks's name in-universe is just Trunks, not Future Trunks.

[Thanos]

The form is extremely uninteresting.


Standard God mode had an ethereal nature to it; he was lean and innocent-looking, which lent to his godlike state. The SSJSSJG form is pretty unspectacular--he just looks like a warrior... nothing godlike about it. Meh. I feel like after throwing us for a loop and giving us something unexpected, this just loops around to laziness. This was Toriyama's opportunity to make something flashy and over-the-top (cape anyone?) after the minimalism of SSJG and Gold Freeza, but no... let's continue this trend of unexpected, but without the interesting bit. Nice. Maybe SSJSSJG2 will be eve more interesting, like base Goku but without pupils!

[Metalwario64]

That post was directed at the creator of the topic. I agree with you.

I see.

Sorry for the mix up.

[MutenRoshii619]

Yeaaaaaah sorry about that folks changed the title still getting used to the forum I would delete the post but I not sure if possible?? lol

[Blade]

The negativity towards the new form is nothing new. We saw it with 'God', and I'm willing to bet if you go far back enough in the fandom, it happened with Super Saiyan 3 and 4, too.

Eventually, collective scepticism and reservations about 'new' forms always segues into begrudged acceptance, then indifference, and then, finally, affection.

[buutenks]

IDK about you all,but i enjoy the new form.I happen to like the color blue and it looks awesome as a transformation plus super saiyan 1 hair style the best.

I wonder if goku in his new ssj god form is stronger than his red form.

[Saiyan007]

I wonder if goku in his new ssj god form is stronger than his red form.

He is according to the scan that was posted a couple pages back

[Dyno]

I wonder if goku in his new ssj god form is stronger than his red form.

Why wouldn't be? It's a "fusion" of two forms... Of course he is stronger. Not to mention both of them trained with Wiss.